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Q: His reign has begun. Can we survive it?

Edit: the bad formatting oof this text was not my intention. I dont know what happened.

Those of you reading this may not believe it, but we are living in epic times.  The things we will witness in the coming months, I believe,will be a great privilege.  The world's climate is teetering on the brink of calamity for human life, pollution is strangling our air and water, and we are engulfed in endless wars and conflict and political rhetoric continues to divide humanity, but we are at a crucial time in history that I am excited to be a part of.Yesterday, President Donald Trump came into being.  With his birth came a massive worldwide resistance I have not seen in my 50 years of life.  On the first day of his presidency, his first official press statement, Donald trump boldly declared, by means of his new press secretary, that he had the largest inaugural crowd ever and we should not believe the press or the photos that were taken of the event.  And so his reign begins. It was not long ago, that I mentioned (along with a couple others) that Trump's presidential campaign had more than a little similarity to that of Adolph Hitler.  My comments were scoffed at.  Trump has no ideology, they said.  Things have certainly taken a turn since that time.  Of all the issues and important things he could have addressed in his first official White House statements, this is what our leader of the free world is concerned with?  Supporting his massive ego with obvious lies?  He had the choice to implore Americans for unity and acceptance or to share his plan for keeping some of those promises he made, but instead he says that we shouldn't listen to the free press or believe our own eyes, that we should only believe what he says?  These words are the seeds of a different kind of America.  It's not the attendance numbers I'm concerned with.  Even if Spicer was correct in his "calculations" of the inauguration numbers (which I highly doubt), it is besides the point. The press release shows us something more disturbing about this new administration. Without proof of his claim, he admonished the American public to distrust an important faction of the American way of life.  Not just one paper or news website, but the whole lot.  Our American free press should no longer
be listened to.  Apparently the only reliable teller of events is President Donald Trump.  This is a dangerous turn of events. This is how Fascism is born.  In the past, it was just considered to be political rhetoric, something I thought he said just to get elected.  But now, our newly throned President has opened his first day with this whopper.  Some of us are not surprised, but it certainly sends a chilling message that sets the tone for the months and maybe years ahead. Reading this, you may assume that I am anti-Trump (meaning against the Trump Presidency).  If so, you would be mistaken. I hold no position on this man landing perhaps the highest office in the world. The matter is entirely irrelevant to me.  What does matter to me is the potential repercussions of his term in office, which brings me to the my point. For decades, the system that we know as American democracy (in extension, the whole world order) has been rotting from the inside.  Soon we will see undisputable evidence of its inevitable demise.  On this site, I have always been a strong advocate for the Bible's worldview.  It is my belief that it will come to fruition in the short time ahead. Now before you get your panties in a bunch about the hypocrisy of religion, let me make it clear (for the umpteenth time) that this is not a religious rant. I have never been an advocate for religion. In fact, you may be surprised what the Bible says the future holds for the world's religions.  According the the Bible, here is what we have to look forward to: 1.  The demise of all (or almost all) religions worldwide!  Surprised?  The religions of this world have long ceased to represent God's interests.  This is plain
for all to see, I don't even need to discuss it.  I see a future under the current administration that will light a bonfire under churches, synagogues, mosques, and
temples everywhere that will last forever. 2.  Money will be worthless.  This isn't hard to predict.  Every country is operating under a deficit. How long can that last? At 6.6 trillion or so US dollars, the financial
and economic world leader is swimming in debt.  There is no other serious financial entity to take the helm (China? Please!).  When the USD scales tip, The whole world will shudder. 3.  Total anarchy.  When the economic sh@t hits the fan, it will mean the breakdown of world society. With religious institutions already abolished, the only thing we can do
is turn against each other.  The recent populist movement (not just in the USA) has created an atmosphere of severe division among peoples.  This trend will only continue. Brexit, the Philippine President Duterte, and now Trump, are only the beginning. It is plain to see that humans are completely ill-equipped to rule over mankind. 4.  The ruining of the Earth will continue.  The world's leading consumer of Earth's resources and arguably it's biggest polluter has taken measures to reject legislation
that was put in place to clean up the mess.  On day one, President Trump has signed documents to repeal acts that were meant to save our environment.  We all know China is
in a whole they will never get out of.  The world will follow their lead.  We are already past the tipping point.  The ending is already written.
5. Finally (and this one I admittedly can see no sign of, but look forward to witnessing), the Bible says everyone will be forced to acknowledge the existence of the Creator.  Certainly, the majority won't give Him their allegiance, but it will be evident to all sane people of His existence. This millennia long experiment called "Independence from God" will finally come to its end.  In fact, if it doesn't end, it will mean the extinction of all mankind.  We will have gotten to the point of self destruction.  A leader will finally be installed who is the rightful ruler.  A leader who is qualified to lead mankind successfully and peacefully. A leader who keeps all his promises and will benefit all his subjects.  A new epoch in human history will begin.  So today, I feel we are at a landmark in history.  All hail Mr. Trump!  May he continue on the road that he has been traveling.  It is a great time to be living.        
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I didn't vote for trump, but I'm not a big partisan either. I'd love to see good things happen for the US and if Trump delivers then I'll get behind him. But especially I don't think that histrionics are going to do the liberal side any favors.

 

Things need to be kept in perspective. I remember for 8 yrs of Obama I felt nothing but contempt for melodramtic conservatives who kept thinking he was going to come take their guns away when that wasn't even close to ever being discussed or on the table.

Now I need to feel the same contempt for melodramtic liberals saying Trump is going to send gays to scared straight camps and the like. Not even on the table. Even if Pence gets in the oval office. And the hitler comparisons always seemed a little on the nose to me. Partly just because someone doesn't need to be hitler to not be a good candidate, and if you do really hate trump you aren't going to convince his supporters by being over dramatic. Just arises contempt.

 

People who really don't like Trump's stated policies need to start focusing on real issues that can be successfully debated against and opposed rather than partisan nightmare fantasies.

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Sensible rational thinking that Xinyu does not use, 

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Yay!

 

Trump is president. Protesting isn't going to do jack shit to change that!

 

Now do something pragmatic.

 

In Australia, there is a group called 'Get Up'. Non-party politics using the internet. They attack policies, not politicians (well, usually :p)

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My point is just that when people get into these terrified circle jerks based on partisan fantasy nightmares they don't have anything left for the real issues.

 

Obama using FEMA to take your guns away was always an imaginary problem. And when people waste all their energy defending against the imaginary gun confiscation problem they don't have any energy or even credibility left to demand more oversight on health care reform or push for more screening/restrictions on immigration.

 

And now the same is true for the idiots out there who think trump & pence are going to round up gays or legalize rape. You waste your credibility whining about imaginary problems and when there is a real policy issue worth debating you got nothing left. 

 

Terrified liberals take note: something that might actually happen with Trump is gutting of environmental protection laws and an increase in shady toxic waste dumping. So save your energy for that one.

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you didn't have to type all that out .
the phrase "we are so screwed" would have been sufficient

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Sorry...sticky fingers done voted you, was meant to be an upvote!  

 

And yea says he...the end of the world is nigh! Wonder if someone has that on a Trump t-shirt yet?

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It's interesting times for sure and watching it play out..well it does feel to me like a page has been turned and there are some very disturbing changes coming.

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i survived the last 8 years by leaving the country, i suppose i can stay away longer but I think anybody want to work will be okay in about 2 years there, it will take some time to get the gdp growth to 3 percent, the regulations and restrictions will be hard to tear apart also, but Trump will get it done or die trying. His worst criticizer and authority figure cutting him down is the man in the mirror. He is harder on himself than any liberal could ever be, obama wanted to lead from behind and trump has told the world we want carry your water anymore, this was predictable, you can't borrow other peoples money to feed the world or start wars or take in everybody into your borders. the party had to end sometime. no one has figured out that both parties did not want to make the tough choices and now they have a scapegoat to do the dirty deeds and both parties can claim they have no choice and in 8 years, both parties will do the same old shit all over again.

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bill clinton was a racist and a sexual predator

obama was a radical elite professor

 

the press covered for both of these men and anybody from arkansas or illinois knew this.

 

the major networks including fox have evening news viewers that are only equal to about a third of the twitter followers of trump. the press has been dead for a long time, nobody even cares enough to notice. trump only repeated what everybody already believes about the press and knows to be true.

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comparisons to hitler, let's see

hitler did not drink alcohol, smoke, or curse.

 

trump does not drink or smoke, but i'm pretty sure he probably uses some profanity, I don't think any New Yorker does not curse even the Catholic priest when he is fornicating with the choir boys probably curses in pleasure a little bit.

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I wanted to post below Wikileaks release as comment to your post, but I pressed the wrong button.angel

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As with any employment scenario, it boils down to two words, job description.   And job descriptions change with time as they are dependent on the current situation a company is in.

 

Same goes for the leader of any country. What kind of world situation America finds itself in, in 2017?   30+ years ago, the majority of mainlanders didn't even have a home telephone let alone owning a car.  CCP fed them propaganda material like "western capitalists are evil exploiters, they are our enemies" to control them and prop up their low self-esteem.  

 

We all know what daluren are like today, just as jealous of the affluent developed countries, hating what they haves although on a hardware level, things have improved a lot. Now it is jealousy, hatred, and destructive intention all in a bowl. Their mentality is still the same, meaning, instead of using bare hands to rob, now the robbers have knives and guns. Old wines in new bottles.

 

So what is the job description for a US President these days? Certainly not the same as 30 years ago. 

 

Have you seen anti-triad squad in action when they deal with triad gangs?  Without the uniforms, their ferocity would have you wondered if they are gang members. 

 

Those among Americans who are of a peaceful nature, civilized, know about ethics, have a conscience and a soul may find it unsettling to have someone like Trump becoming the president of USA.  But do they know the knife of PRC is already near America's jugular? Don't they know what (not who) is knocking on their door, with what intentions?  These folks should go ask Angela Merkel and the Germans about their experience with Syrian refugees.  

 

Those refugees claim survival as their reason. Guess what, not only daluren also do the same, they have 10X more excuses, having been trained and brainwashed by CCP. 

 

Sure, it is about survival. Guess whose survival is now at stake, too?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6YfQx9I64

 

this guy destroys climate change in 7 minutes and he plans on working for trump

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3 months will tell us everything, and reality will prevail. Not coked up wet dreams.

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should be ab interesting time on Twitter

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hopefully it's just a beat up like when Ragan was voted in

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Phil, you make an excellent point. He was voted in. Maybe if more of the current whingers voted then the outcome would have been different. Or not. Who knows, but one thing i know for sure is that American style democracy will become an international joke after this fiasco. It seems every American i know is having a tantrum about their new legally uncontested president. You'd think no one voted for him if you read the news. It's pathetic. Like him or not he is your president and all the bitching and carrying on, mostly by people who didn't vote will make America a worse place.

To me it looks like a sad bandwagon of clowns who didn't vote but want to complain about the outcome.

What i want to know is when are all those people who said they would move to canada and do other things if trump won going to follow through.

And for the record....i couldn't give a unicorn about whether trump is president or not.

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Phil, you make an excellent point. He was voted in. Maybe if more of the current whingers voted then the outcome would have been different. Or not. Who knows, but one thing i know for sure is that American style democracy will become an international joke after this fiasco. It seems every American i know is having a tantrum about their new legally uncontested president. You'd think no one voted for him if you read the news. It's pathetic. Like him or not he is your president and all the bitching and carrying on, mostly by people who didn't vote will make America a worse place.

To me it looks like a sad bandwagon of clowns who didn't vote but want to complain about the outcome.

What i want to know is when are all those people who said they would move to canada and do other things if trump won going to follow through.

And for the record....i couldn't give a unicorn about whether trump is president or not.

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iWolf brought up a very good point..

 

XinyuRen: Did you vote?

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Those who are suggesting that if more left-winger liberals had voted, Trump may not now be president... and that their whinging and bitching really is their own fault, are grossly ignorant of the electoral process in the US.

 

You are failing to understand that the relatively significant aspect of this issue is that not enough voted across the country!!! That is, in the places where people are protesting, they did get out and vote against Trump! Another 100 votes in DC or California would not have changed the results! Another 10,000 votes would not have changed the outcome. Hell, even another million votes for Clinton in California would NOT have changed the result!!!

 

So, before anyone goes off on the Liberals/Democrats for protesting and not voting - FIRST ask them which state they were in before attacking them! Cos if they were in a blue state,  then the argument is wasted....

iWolf:

I understand how the American system works. Do you understand that if one candidate gets more votes than the other in a particular state, that candidate wins the collegiate votes? Clearly you didn't thinks this through when making a statement that if would be futile in the wrong coloured state. Duh! That's why trump won. His voters got out and voted in traditional democrat states and won the vote. My point was that clowns who didn't vote appear to the loudest voices of dissent. As a self proclaimed bastion of democracy they are complete tools to not support a mature peaceful change of government that was legitimately won according to the law.

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Fucking shit! I typed a long comment in response to shining! And the system just fucked me over.

 

Basically this, Hillary ignored the working people who lost their jobs due to illegals and flawed trade deals (these people have been ignored for the last 20 years by both parties). Hillary and her mouthpieces constantly disregarded their concerns with BS lies (illegals only do the jobs Americans don't do)

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Oh and Ohio, Fla, and PA she ignored the people there

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Apparently, so did the other Republicans...

 

As has often  been asked, if Sanders had been the candidate, would they have won? Or was it a Democrats thing overall? Or just a Hilary issue?

 

Either way, the system is clearly flawed. The voters for both parties didn't seem overly enthusiastic about their nominated leaders (when it really counted). So, it would appear that this may be a wake-up call for politics in the US in general??

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The flaw is in the intelligence of the people (lack of) and the money driven parties. Yes, those people were ignored by both parties except Sanders(in some way) and Trump, the problem with Sanders was 2fold. He didn't address border security, illegals, trade and he was submarined by his own party then the temperamental and petulant supporters threw a temper tantrum and stayed home on election day. Hilary didn't reach out to enough people and she let Trump distract her with his BS

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I'm not sure Sanders didn't address those issues (he did), but perhaps not in the way that some people wanted.

 

Also, Hilary was always going to be the candidate. That was set up years ago! It wouldn't surprise me if many pro-Sanders people actually saw Hilary as just as bad as Trump (I've met a few Americans who seem to think this way)... so, what to do then?

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Most of your replies reflect a partisan viewpoint (as I expected) without considering the worldview that I presented. In fact, it was expected that you would reject out of hand the Biblical aspect of my observations. Still, I applaud you for your restraint. However, without considering the Bible's point of view, you will never get the point I was making. The age of human rule is ending. I was not bemoaning Trump's rise to power, on the contrary, I welcome it. What type of desperation and hopelessness does it take to elect such a blatantly arrogant, insecure, idiot to the world's most powerful office? What has humanity evolved to where this is even possible? No. I am not bemoaning the Trump presidency. It is the harbinger of the future.

The Bible (a book many of you dismiss as a fairytale) says that humans weren't designed to rule. When human insisted on self-rule, we were allowed to try with all our might. We were allowed to test our inherent limitations ( Apparently, our Creator isn't like Donald Trump and is not threatened by criticism or opposition). Here is where our insistance brought us. We have elected a President that is not even a real man to lead us, a strong validation of our Creator's words, "man will rule over man to his own ruin".

Someone asked if I voted? I find it hard not to laugh. Who is there to vote for? An unworthy, incompetent (for this job, anyways) human or another human, equally unworthy and unfit for the position? There isn't an iota of a reason to place my trust on any of them. They are all just like dust. The Bible's words have proved true. It is my position that Trump's administration and any that follow will prove it beyond a shadow of doubt. Look at the mess we have made. What a folly to hope that the destroyers can clean it up. Partisanship is utter nonsense in wake of the far larger issue we face.

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So you're complaining that Trump defeated Hilary but you consider her just as bad?

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Are you trolling or do you not understand civilized writing? It is customary to read a person's words carefully BEFORE you formulate a reply. By doing so you significantly reduce your risk of putting your foot in your mouth (as you habitually do). *** "I was not bemoaning Trump's rise to power, on the contrary, I welcome it." "No. I am not bemoaning the Trump presidency. It is the harbinger of the future." "Reading this, you may assume that I am anti-Trump (meaning against the Trump Presidency). If so, you would be mistaken. I hold no position on this man landing perhaps the highest office in the world." *** Do these sentences mean anything to you? Does it really sound like I am complaining about Trump's win? Do you even know the definition of the word, "bemoaning"? I am afraid my points have gone entirely over your head. Perhaps you should do less writing and a lot more reading. Or maybe you should keep a dictionary nearby so you can comprehend my difficult words.

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So, what you're trying to say (which, yes, I read in your OP, and am someone who chose to remain 'restrained'), is that because Trump got voted into power, it proves the Bible is correct... even before he's actually done anything...????

 

Please come back in 4 years to this post.

 

Also - try, just try, to see things from a non-American point of view. You know - Trump may be president, so how exactly does that affect, say, New Zealand? Or South Africa?? Or Venezuela, etc etc etc....

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@ Shining... umm, no. You should pay more attention to what I actually DID say as opposed to what you think I was trying to say. Its very clear. President Trumps words and actions thus far have set the stage for the downfall of all political domains. What happens in The United States affects everyone. To think otherwise is naive. And as for checking back in 4 years, that is precisely why I wrote this little tidbit for the archives, but I sincerely hope I will be checking back significantly sooner.

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"downfall of all political domains"

 

What a load of absolute CRAP!!!!!

 

You are somehow suggesting that Trump's election is going to signal virtually the end of the world. Certainly, it can only be read that you think that all systems of government are going to come crashing down across the whole world....

 

And it's farcical to think that...

 

The US may have its problems, and they may extend to other nations, and we may have a depression for a while... but over all, this is just going to be 4 years that we'll get through until the next election (if he's not assassinated or has an 'accident' beforehand).

 

What you obviously haven't noticed is - how the rest of the world has responded to Trump's election. A) amusement. B) meh, so what.... we have far more important things to think about...

 

You sound like one of those guys who stands on the street corner yelling out "The end of the world is nigh!! REPENT REPENT!"

 

Q: what will you do if, 4 years from now, we're still here with relatively little change? Will you admit to being wrong? Or will you continue to clutch at straws?

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His reign has begun. Can we survive it?

 

That means you're neutral on the matter? Oh wait you're a fanatical Christian begging for the end times, if your life sucks suck on a bullet. Some of us enjoy life and actually want to see the young enjoy their lives as adults. 

 

 

 

 

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@ Shining.... thats it. let it all out for prosperity. My words seem nonsense to those who dont know what symptoms to look for. By all means lets revisit this post. Then you will see my reaction. But for the record, I didnt set a limit of 4 years (in fact, I hope its much sooner). I refrain from putting a literal time scale on Bible predictions, but it is looking to be very soon. See you in "4 years" ;-)

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@ Englishted.... Maybe you are just hopeless.. Maybe you should just ignore my posts. I have already made a statement about the religion you recognize as "Christianity". Did you get hung up on the word "abolish"? I'll give you a moment to go look it up. But I give you credit on one point: On political affairs, I am neutral. Why should I waste my time choosing between two (or more) losers? Enjoy your family while you can. There are rocky times ahead.

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Yes, posterity's sake.. I totally agree!

 

As for your 'symptoms', the problem is that one needs 'faith' to see that not only are they actually symptomatic of something, but to also agree with both the cause and the treatment/cure.

 

Symptom - headache. Cause? Nervous tension, or Liver Fire Blazing?? Treatment... aspirin, or strong reducing needling of Liver 3 (TaiChong)??

 

Open-ended predictions are worthless. Christians have been predicting some sort of Apocalypse for 2000 years. It's merely a way for the ego to say "I'm not wrong", without ever being put in the position of having to say "Oh, looks like I am actually wrong, perhaps I should change my beliefs...".

 

Let me make an open-ended prediction, and see just how valid the idea is... I predict that dragons will come from the skies, and burn out humanity, and rule for 10000 years (metaphorical, not literal!). Towards the end of that period, a person will be born who will find a way to bring a unicorn into the world, and that will bring about the downfall of the Age of Dragons.

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I'm rooting for Trump. Sure I think he's a dangerous idiot but now he's our idiot. It's like the whole world's in a plane and the pilot has had a heart attack and Trump is the only one who can land the plane. Before the pilot had a heart attack I would never have wanted Trump to fly the plane as he's been busy grabbing pussy, bragging about how awesome he is and doing coke in the bathroom. But now he's our only hope. Good luck Mr Trump. Please don't kill us all.

Xinyuren. With all due respect The Bible is a fairy story made up by bronze age shepherds who didn't know the world was round. It mentions witches, unicorns and giants. Call me old Mr Skeptical but I wouldn't put too much faith in its predictions.

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Witches are women who practice witchcraft. They exist today. If you consider a 9 foot tall man a giant, then yes the Bible mentions it. The Guinness Record is 8'9. Is 3 inches taller so unbelievable to you? And no, I dont recall any unicorns in the Bible. I think you have been fooled by fake news. Nevertheless, I get your point. Facts mean nothing to you. You already know everything you need to know. I wont debate with you on this. You keep up the ole' faith with the Donald. Good luck. You're gonna need it (edit: I quoted the wrong numbers. Instead of 8'9 (tallest man alive), I meant to say 8'11 (tallest man ever recorded by Guinness).

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Hope and faith are different things. Hope is a want or desire for a certain thing to happen. Faith is believing something without evidence. You need to read your Bible. I read mine. It allowed me to throw off my childish belief in a ghoulish fantasy story. Unicorns in The Bible Numbers 23:22 “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.” Numbers 24:8 “God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.” Job 39:9 “Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?” Job 39:10 “Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?” Psalms 29:6 “He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.” Psalms 92:10 “But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.” Deuteronomy 33:17 “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.” Psalms 22:21 “Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.” Isaiah 34:7 “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.”

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Before you counsel someone about reading the Bible, you should check yourself about intentionally misleading others. I said I wont debate with you about your own personal choice, but I refuse to allow ignorance to be spread unchecked! First of all, you dont understand the meaning of faith: Faith is the belief in something that has not happened yet. It is NOT the belief in something without evidence (that's called stupidity). For example, everyone has faith that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, but it is faith because it hasn't happened yet. But we have ample evidence from our knowledge of the cosmos that it will do so. So true faith is based on knowledge. As for your humorous quotes from an old English Bible, I'm pretty sure you were intentionally try to mislead the readers. Its that or you are not aware that the English language has changed over the centuries and some words have become either obsolete or their meaning has changed! Surely you are not that obtuse. The modern language translation for the ancient Hebrew scriptures you quoted as "unicorn" is "wild ox" (New International Version) or similar wording in other modern translations. Like any other form of literature, I recommend using modern translations for better understanding.

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I am obviously one of those who considers the Bible a 'fairystory' (to some extent), however:

 

Firstly, witches are people who practice witchcraft. I've known many - of both genders!

 

Secondly, re: unicorns... I like this -  http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/08/are-there-really-unicorns-in-the-king-james-bible.html

 

Which basically says - they used the word 'unicorn', but don't actually know the animal was they were describing...

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@ shining - I feel behooved to correct you. Witches are women. Warlocks are men of the same "profession". It is a minor point, but you raised it. The link you provided is for the King James Bible, whose English is horribly outdated and is not even a translation of the original Hebrew text. Since then, language scholars have learned to translate more accurately and the English language has moved on. I hardly see what point can be made from that article.

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I've just written that I PERSONALLY KNOW many witches of both genders - who use the term 'witch' (and very specifically NOT 'warlock') - but you are going to tell me you know better?????

 

Why? Because your Bible says so??? Oh, of course, and your book is 'infallible', and so you must be right - by definition.

 

And, any book that is actually ON witchcraft (and its ilk), written BY witches are therefore also wrong????

 

Should I get in touch with the High Priest friend of mine from many years ago and tell him "Hey, Brian... the Bible says you can't be called a witch because you're a male... you should be called a warlock"? Yeah, I'm sure he's going to reply with "Oh hell, you're right!! People from religions that I don't follow should definitely know better than myself... I'll change that right away!"

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Oh, my! you are flying off the handle now. Did I touch a nerve? It is an extremely minor point, calm down, you can have it. btw, last year a leader of the NAACP said that she was black. This was news to her white parents and a great many people disagreed with her. I personally know people who say they are my friend, but I dont consider them to be so. Hell, there are men who think they are women and women who call themselves men, but the facts are in contrary to their claims. Which goes to show that just because somebody calls themselves something does not necessarily mean they are that thing. So I'll just be sticking to the dictionary meaning, thank you. But for the sake of your blood pressure, I concede this point to you. I prefer to move on to less petty things.

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Yes, it is relatively minor... but it does go to show that you have a huge problem saying "sorry, I was wrong".

 

And, you should compare and contrast dictionaries and other places of definitions (eg, wiki).

Witch (disambiguation)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A witch is a practitioner of witchcraft.

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The protesters would have spent their time better enrolling people to vote.

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yeah I agree

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I didn't vote for trump, but I'm not a big partisan either. I'd love to see good things happen for the US and if Trump delivers then I'll get behind him. But especially I don't think that histrionics are going to do the liberal side any favors.

 

Things need to be kept in perspective. I remember for 8 yrs of Obama I felt nothing but contempt for melodramtic conservatives who kept thinking he was going to come take their guns away when that wasn't even close to ever being discussed or on the table.

Now I need to feel the same contempt for melodramtic liberals saying Trump is going to send gays to scared straight camps and the like. Not even on the table. Even if Pence gets in the oval office. And the hitler comparisons always seemed a little on the nose to me. Partly just because someone doesn't need to be hitler to not be a good candidate, and if you do really hate trump you aren't going to convince his supporters by being over dramatic. Just arises contempt.

 

People who really don't like Trump's stated policies need to start focusing on real issues that can be successfully debated against and opposed rather than partisan nightmare fantasies.

Englteachted:

Sensible rational thinking that Xinyu does not use, 

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Yay!

 

Trump is president. Protesting isn't going to do jack shit to change that!

 

Now do something pragmatic.

 

In Australia, there is a group called 'Get Up'. Non-party politics using the internet. They attack policies, not politicians (well, usually :p)

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My point is just that when people get into these terrified circle jerks based on partisan fantasy nightmares they don't have anything left for the real issues.

 

Obama using FEMA to take your guns away was always an imaginary problem. And when people waste all their energy defending against the imaginary gun confiscation problem they don't have any energy or even credibility left to demand more oversight on health care reform or push for more screening/restrictions on immigration.

 

And now the same is true for the idiots out there who think trump & pence are going to round up gays or legalize rape. You waste your credibility whining about imaginary problems and when there is a real policy issue worth debating you got nothing left. 

 

Terrified liberals take note: something that might actually happen with Trump is gutting of environmental protection laws and an increase in shady toxic waste dumping. So save your energy for that one.

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Xinyu: Do you want the pieces to be in place for Armageddon to take place?

xinyuren:

It doesnt matter what I want. The pieces are already in place. I am just an observer with a pretty interesting view. As history unfolds, I will compare it with what I have written. Maybe I will write some more details about what the Bible says, but my desires or wants will not change in any way what is about to happen.

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People like you just change reality. , 2000 people like you cried about the end times. After, fanatics just acted like they didn;t say it. 4 years later, there will still be an America, a world. same BS maybe a little worse .  But you know what, Jesus ain't coming back. 

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You are just about the densest, illiterate fellow I have encountered on this board. It amazes me how you can teach English (only in China!). I can't count how many times I have separated myself and criticized religions of all kinds (especially the fanatical variety), even here in this post! Tell me, really, can you read? Are you dyslexic like I perceive cub is? If so, at least that will explain some things. As I have said many times before (and this will be my last reply to you because you have a comprehension problem), I dont practice a religion. Also, its impossible to deny what I said because its written here in black and white. So as I told Shining, we can check back on this thread in the future.

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Xin is just playing with words.... he's trying to use a particular definition of 'religion' such that it doesn't apply to him and his faith/belief... even though most definitions clearly would apply to him...

 

Case in point:

noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:  to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.
something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:  to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.
religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8.
Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:  a religion to one's vow.

 

 

#1 clearly applies to Xinyuren (and, notice, it's the first definition offered!)

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Wow man. That's a heavy trip you're laying on us man. Like I'm cool with you clinging desperately to the musings of some unemployed hangers on. But dude, cherry picking the verses you want to prove a point just isn't cool.

Did you come up with this completely plausible scenario about Trump ushering in the kingdom of heaven by yourself? Ahpuld we expect some horsemen and trumpets blowing any time soon? While you smugly fiddle while rome burns?

Break out your sandwishboards brothers. The end is imminent. You heard it here first. Let the looting begin and burn some witches and morlocks. It's cool though. Our good book thumping bros will bear witness and help no one.

This acid flashback being had by the OP sounds like an episode of Sleepy Hollow but without the babes. Dude, end of days delusions would be more popular if there were babes.

xinyuren:

And you, I think you should get a room with your salty Sea Captain pal who was active here a few months back. Maybe you can practice your lame Western stereotypical speech affections on each other. Geesh, do you Chinese people really think this crap is funny??

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Hey I miss the salty sea captain pirate parrot.

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Not to worry expat, something tells me he has been reincarnated.

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If this were the turn of the 20th century and I was predicting that as a result of one man's death the whole world would go to war, most of you (and especially Shining) would react with outrage. Who could have suspected that the assasination of a Duke would spark the biggest conflict anyone had ever seen? But the circumstances were in place for those frightening sequence of events to occur. Not to say that the assasination is what caused the Great War. In retrospect, there were many other events that compounded to lead up to that climax. Likewise its probably unfair to put the burden of future happenings squarely on the shoulders of poor, hapless Pres. Trump. He is only a major piece of many pieces to the puzzle. 8 years ago, Trump probably could have never won against Obama. The atmosphere wasn't primed. People weren't desperate enough, or whatever. But history has often taught us to look for cracks in the least obvious places and only by looking earnestly and objectively can you find them. So for all you ones who are quick to ridicule, time will tell and we will see what it has to say. If I am wrong, certainly there will be more than a little embarrassment on my part, but nothing I can't bear and life will go on. But If I am right (or should I say, if the Bible is right).... let's just say that if I were you, I would be making sure I am not on the wrong side of history.

retiredinchina:

xinyuren, I usually stay out of religious discussions, but I have studied most of them and been in the buildings they worship their gods in.

 

If you believe the prophetic teachings which have been changed substantially with the dead sea scroll documents claiming revelation is a history of Roman oppression rather than prophecy, which leads to the supposition that it may history and prophesy with a double meaning, then you know based on biblical scholars that one final piece still has not happened. the consensus of scholars believe that everybody on earth will have to have heard the gospel of christ before all hell breaks loose. the irony of all ironies is the ccp may actually believe this to be true which would explain why they are so tough on religious teaching and preaching in china. if your a religious devout man and every single chinaman has heard the gospel, then you should have your will written, never mind the suitcase,its a one way no luggage trip.

 

this enlightenment in china will take perhaps another generation or with technology maybe a little more than a decade, then we will see if fairy tales or righteous history is the order of the day.

i admire your faith, i used to have it, dont lose it, when you lose it, there is really no purpose to life anymore, it's just like watching paint dry.

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Hahaha. It's kind of ironic that you call out Tim the hippy for being a stereotype when you have come across in this thread as the posterboy for end-of-the-world-religious-nutjobs. I'm not saying you should stop. On the contrary whack-jobs like you a that Shining Burgerboy are entertainment. Or do i have you all wrong and you are a satirical genius?

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"If this were the turn of the 20th century and I was predicting that as a result of one man's death the whole world would go to war, most of you (and especially Shining) would react with outrage"

 

No Xin... not even remotely close!

 

I have no problems with the idea that the world is going to shit in a handbasket. What I do disagree with is the idea that only one particular 'god' can save 'humanity', and that without that being (or his believers/followers), humanity will die (or something... vague....).

 

It's actually good that you brought up WWI.... because if it were a century or so ago, you'd be one of those sprouting what you have above (ie, the OP you posted)... and, 4 years later, we'd be now looking back and saying "well, it actually wasn't the end of the world, and your god still hasn't come down to take over".

 

So, now I need to ask - what's the relevantly significant difference between 1913, 1938, and 2016?  Different enough such that your god will come down and take over...

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This is what you said: the Bible says everyone will be forced to acknowledge the existence of the Creator.  Certainly, the majority won't give Him their allegiance, but it will be evident to all sane people of His existence

 

and:  But If I am right (or should I say, if the Bible is right)..

 

but you say this: I dont practice a religion.

 

 

That sounds religious to me? Anyone else want to chime in? 

Maybe you don't understand what religion is 

Taken from Webster's 

  1. (2) :  commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

  2. 2:  a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practice

  3. There was also a photo of you under fanatics who are confused

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And you call me illiterate

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I posted about that above.... same thing.

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I guess you're illiterate too

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It's been an entertaining insight into your doomsday wet dream, Xinyuren.

So Jesus is coming back and this time he's not just here to hang out in gardens with handsome, burly young sailors? Cool. Good to know.

Do you have any statistical evidence on doomsday predictions? I do. Don't need to Google it. It's a 00000000000000 % success rate. Good luck with yours though. I'm sure it'll be different this time.

Problem with such predictions is that you don't have much time for the "I told you so!" post Armageddon gloating. Unless you count heaven of course. What fun would heaven be if you couldn't look down on all the unbelievers burning and dying in agony? God is love.

iWolf:

God: I give you free will. Love me or burn in Hell for eternity!

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Gee God, thanks for all the options.

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the worse part is the desciptions of heaven, really boring, you would expect a bentley and you realize you will be in a little red wagon.

 

gold streets, everybody perfectly handsome and beautiful and all singing 24 hours a day to please the father, religions are like car salesmen, after you get the car you say wtf, they really need to rewrite the descriptions of heaven so that somebody will think it is a good deal. my destiny is probably hell but if i get to heaven and its as boring as chinese new years day, i am damn sure going to want a refund on my one way ticket.

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@ Shining -  Yes, religion involves a system of beliefs.  But if this were all that it involved, I could successfully make the argument that everyone has a religion.  The full definition of religion is a the practice of said beliefs.  Merely believing something doesn't constitute a religion, which is precisely why I said I don't practice a religion.  In your eagerness to read what you want into my statement, you got hung up on the wrong word.  You know very little about me or my lifestyle, so there is no way for you to confirm or debate my statement.

 

As for my original post,  as each day passes, it becomes more clear that the Donald doesn't know what he is doing.  Some of you seem to believe in what he is trying to do, but don't agree with how he is trying to achieve it.  I say there is no better way.  Extreme ideology will always require extreme measures.  Building a wall between your friendly neighbors and demonizing an entire religion (one of the largest in the world, no less) is extreme ideology.  It will cause division.  It will cause upheaval and chaos.  And there is no human that can solve the problem.  Each day he is in office will only confirm this.

 

Some people seem to think they can cause a revolution without blood (figuratively).  Historically, this is fantasy.  They want to turn the ship on the dime?  It can't happen without paying the cost.  The cost will be the stability of a civilized society (and just think of what kind of societies builds walls on their borders and discriminates against large portions of cultural groups).  This is a no win situation, a real life Kobayashi Maru.  Political ideology is selfish by nature.  Step away from it a  moment and you can clearly see the outcome.

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