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Q: How can I get a FEC to renew my residence permit?

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here's the situation: I need to renew my resident permit in July, the school I work for (which I don't trust at all) is not likely to apply for my FEC,  I'm a teacher and I go through an agent, can the agency do it for me? or will I have to pay a visa agent which will cost me heaps!!! Last year it cost me about 20 000RMB for me and my husband to get that certificate.

Thanks for your answers, I need HELP!!!

10 years 3 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Shifu

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Why are you still with that school then? I'd thought in a situation like that anyone would've left long ago. And 20,000 for an FEC? You been had, big time! It's not like that's the only school left in the town you're in. 

Englteachted:

How stupid does someone have to be to fall for that?

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The visa handling guy in your company must apply online for your renewal of FEC..in this process he has to upload all the required documents including your diplomas and C.V.. once it will be approved.. he has to go with hard copy of employment agreement between you and your employer to submit the same to FEC issuing authorities.. only after that they will put renewal seal.. no other can do ..only your employer can do.. (This is how renewal of FEC works in legitimate way)

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If you don't trust your School, you should find another School, which will extend your Residence permit and FEC.

 

There is no cost for renewing FEC. School is obliged to extend your RP, and apply for new FEC, if you're employed legally. As volta above said, School can renew your FEC online.

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Not that easy because I signed a contract with my agent who herself signed a contract with the school.

Contracts DO mean something where I com from so I'm kinda stuck since I'mnot by myself but I'm with husband and 7 month-old baby.

Thanks for all your answers anyway.

icnif77:

'leave School and keep Residence permit'

 

1. Find one (or more) article on the Contract, your employer doesn't respect, i.e. ' late salary', 'apartment not suitable for living (no TV or kitchen)', 'required to work more hours than per Contract', and so on;

2. Find new employer (RP sponsor);

3. Give Resignation notice to the School. Make 2 copies.

If possible, try to respect Resignation notice (usually 30 days) from the Contract, unless cause for quitting require immediate termination.

4. Visit SAFEA in the city with copy of RN. It is the same office, where you got Foreign Expert Certificate. Usually, big Gov. building with loads of flags outside. Other name is Foreign Expert Bureau. If you are in the smaller city, you might need translator for interview at SAFEA.

 

SAFEA will help you further in process of changing employer, and keep your RP intact. 

For new employer, you'll need FEC Cancelation certificate and Release letter.

 

SAFEA will talk to your School, so advice is your record at School is good. If School has complains on your work (late or miss classes, drunk,...) I'm not sure about outcome.

 

Good luck!

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And yes I'm employed legally but how do you actually oblige them to apply for your FEC and extend your RP, especially if they know you're not gonna stay?

Englteachted:

If you are working with legit people, they would take care of it. Because it is illegal for you to work without it.  Can you understand that? 20k for them to do something they should handle for free, WOW!!

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20k sounds like bribe money. So clearly you are not working legally.  But you are legalish because you have gotten the appropriate visa. But here is the problem, did they forge any documents or info for your application? If so, you are screwed if you try to find a job without having to pay bribe money. A legal legit school will take care of the visa and fec, and incur the expenses.

Why on earth would anyone pay 20k? 

 

Find a legit school. Pray that your info with the FEC or PSB has not been mucked up.

Pascalou:

Since you're the expert on the topic, here's one for you: 

how do you renew a RP when the only schools you work for don't even have a license to employ FT? and the worst part is that the Exit and entry bureau in Beijing know about  it and don't care at all. So no, no forge in my documents, I'm here legally according to that bureau anyway.

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icnif77:

Contact SAFEA with your Q! However, I'm not sure SAFEA will cover you, because you were mislead by School.

 

1. Find another employer, which can sponsor Z!

2. You must exit China, and get Z in your home country, or HK (if you're lucky!)

 

There is no way around this, if you want to comply with Chinese laws. I'm assuming, you have Business visa (used to be F). Tell your employer loud, you're not happy because of wrong visa, and if he (agent) can place you to different School with Z.

You aren't bound by Contract you signed! It is not valid, because you're working (receiving salary) with other than Z, and you can move to another School tomorrow!

Enter 'HeIen' in the search bar above, for more treads on the similar topic! I hope, this helps!

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Englteachted:

"Since you're the expert on the topic, here's one for you: 

how do you renew a RP when the only schools you work for don't even have a license to employ FT? and the worst part is that the Exit and entry bureau in Beijing know about  it and don't care at all. So no, no forge in my documents, I'm here legally according to that bureau anyway."

Are you that dumb? Seriously, read what you wrote. I have an idea, go back to your home country, go back to school, get a degree, learn English, apply to schools that can employ FTs and do it the right way you moron. 

You working at those schools and paying bribes to work here has to do with one thing, the fact that you do not have the necessary qualifications. 

If you do not have the necessary qualifications and try to work here illegally, you deserve what you get .

 

 

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Thanks a lot volta and icnif for your helpful answers.

Well, the others, I didn't ask about how stupid I am but actually for help. You'd be surprised to know how many foreigners are screwed every year.

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Did you just say your school is not licensed to hire FT's?

In which case, no, you are not working legally and need to find another route.

Englteachted:

I am working at a school that can not legally hire foreign teachers, so I am working legally. 

 

I would love for this nut to reveal the name of the school.

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mike168229:

I thought it was just me that was understanding her wrong. Nope, she clearly doesn't get it.

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Pascalou:

Obviously, you know better than the immigration Bureau so you should probably get yourself a job there.

I've working in China for probably longer than you and the fact that your only answer is an insult shows how small your brain is.

My question originally was not actually about the RP but on how to get a FEC, thanks for reading next time.

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Calm yourself.

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