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Q: How can one start an environmental group in China?

How can one go ahead and start an environmental group / business concerning saving China's environment

- as a foreigner?

 

Is there some business license I should apply for? Where can I get more info on starting this type of group / business in China?

9 years 15 hours ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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sticking your foreign nose into Chinese profit margins? That's literally asking for trouble. China has a wealthy 'elite' of greedy robber barons who are only interested in power.

Chinese could do environmentalism themselves if they wanted, but factories prefer to switch off high-tech exhaust filters because it slows production, costs energy and cuts into profits.

No Chinese will listen to a Westerner touting his values anyway. It has to come from their own people.

Chinese have a zero sum mentality; the belief that no profit can be made without someone sacrificing or suffering. By this reasoning, smokestacks are a sign of progress, and excessive pollution is a necessity of life.

You have your work cut out for you. Perhaps when the younger generation becomes more knowledgeable than the previous, attitudes will change. If you hang on with your environmental movement, you can claim you were an important part of the change. Update this thread when you're on the cover of TIME.

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In Poland...Pole polisher pole with Polish pole polish.

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sticking your foreign nose into Chinese profit margins? That's literally asking for trouble. China has a wealthy 'elite' of greedy robber barons who are only interested in power.

Chinese could do environmentalism themselves if they wanted, but factories prefer to switch off high-tech exhaust filters because it slows production, costs energy and cuts into profits.

No Chinese will listen to a Westerner touting his values anyway. It has to come from their own people.

Chinese have a zero sum mentality; the belief that no profit can be made without someone sacrificing or suffering. By this reasoning, smokestacks are a sign of progress, and excessive pollution is a necessity of life.

You have your work cut out for you. Perhaps when the younger generation becomes more knowledgeable than the previous, attitudes will change. If you hang on with your environmental movement, you can claim you were an important part of the change. Update this thread when you're on the cover of TIME.

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want to save the environment?

Don't throw rubbish on the ground, pick up rubbish you see and recycle in your local area.

 

just think,

when you throw out your iPhone 5 and buy your iPhone 6, think of all the pollution caused by your desire to have the latest gadget.

According to iFixit, 130 million cellphones a year are discarded with only 8% recycled correctly. The rest end up in landfills or incinerators and heavy metals are thus leaked into groundwater or into the air.

ScotsAlan:

Education. Totally agree. Start at the simple things... dont throw rubbish on the street.

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