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Q: How come none of the foreign teachers in Beijing own teaching certificates?

Everyplace I taught English not one of the foreigners had a teaching certificate. Most of the teachers that teach don't know what they are doing. They never had proper training and lack a teaching certificate. 

I have one and it is useful when planning your lessons and knowing how to conduct a class. For instance I saw a girl yelling at a bunch of 4 year olds because they wouldn't stop talking. There are other ways to handle that. One of the teachers never showed up cause he didn't know what he was doing and the people in charge didn't know what they were doing so they let him stay even after he missed a whole days of work on several occasions that I had to fill in for.

9 years 14 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - Beijing

 
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dude, you talk like contestant in one of those english competitions. your about as american as a blackburly phone. 

your english is good but no forigner speaks this way. its too neat. like other poster said a robot butler. stop trying

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9 years 14 weeks ago
 
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Perhaps because the only place that would hire you is already dredging the bottom of the barrel - and so, they can't afford to pay trained, qualified and experienced professionals??

Just a thought.....

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As you can see on those ESL teaching job ads, you really don't have to have a tefl/tesol/ esol/ etc cert to teach in China. Five-six years ago, their government didn't really have a check list on who can be or can't be a teacher here until recently (pre- 2008 olympics). Plus, you have your center/school to blame for keeping those kind of 'teachers'. sad

If you think you can really make a difference, why not volunteer to do a classroom management workshop at your school/company so you could share your knowledge to your colleagues?enlightened

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What the hell's the problem? You're not doing a bunch of four year olds a favour by depriving them of an education so they can talk about cartoons and boogers.

I say say give those friggin kids hell and make them cry so they'll be ready for adulthood.

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One of my chinese colleagues invited me to her class. She has a Masters en English Education, so I was very eager to attend!
Most of the class, she spoke in Chinese, and when English was used it was to read outloud from the book.
The students in the first rows were very attentive, underlining passages and making notes.
The middle rows were sort of following the class, but half their attention was elsewhere.
The last rows, students were sleeping, doing other classes homework, playing with phones, mp4's, etc.
I truly do not see how my friends teaching method is any better than that of some foreign teachers.  Those at least actually use English in class....

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I seriously doubt the majority of foreign English teachers in Beijing don't have teaching certificates. I smell a superiority complex in this thread. 

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Well, if none have them where you worked, you must be working at some crappy place that doesn't care about requirements. I guess you don't have a teaching certificate either? Or maybe your English just isn't good enough. Either way, if you could find a better place, I'm sure you would have already.

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Well said Jnus!
NO teacher... so mattya knows all the foreign teachers in Beijing? he must be quite famous and spoke to all of them

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what teaching cert. are you talking about?  "teaching certs." only apply to your home country dumbass. they are not international. and do you really think Certified Teachers are going to leave their plush teachers salaries and home countries to come here???
TESol / CELTA many teachers in beijing and other 1st tier cities have those. that's why it is difficult for me to find a job in this cities (only have a TEFL)

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9 years 13 weeks ago
 
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Crimochina, i am not staning up to this Mattaya but here are many teachers in China with a degree, i have a 4year B Ed, and many other teachers i know. I had to verfy it at the Chinese embassy in Europe before the school employed me. The deal was, you must have a Bachelors degree in any field (not only in education).

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All the teachers I work with are qualified in the subject they teach.
If the Chinese choose to hire unqualified people to teach them whose the idiot.

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Crimochina,

I'm a state-certified teacher and I left my "plush" salary to teach in China. I make approximately $20,000 less than I did in the States, but I am able to save twice as much. I'm certain there are many certified/licensed teachers in China, the vast majority of whom work in international schools. It is a sad fact that it is far more lucrative for American educators to teach in China or the Middle East than it is to teach in the U.S.

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Quality of English is way more important.  A foreign English teacher's main job is simply pronunciation, vocabulary and helping the students realize that English is actually a way to communicate, not just crap in a book.  My Spanish 101 classes were Spanish-only within 6 weeks of class.  Not sure if any of my students have ever had an English-only class.

I'm certified, but not in English.  The certification helps me only slightly, in that I know how to set up class so that people can actually practice and learn, instead of me trying to yell English at them till they get it.  I still can't teach those who don't want to learn.

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why do you care?

obviously, you are a tenderfoot here in China and not  "jia ren "

take your complaining ass out of here... 

if you spent more time enjoying your life here, you'd see it really does not matter.

the kids who want to learn english will. those that don't won't.

it's not your burden to bear.

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Has Admin not t-boned this wu mao imposter yet? 

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If the school you are working for hires "those" kind of teachers...
what does that say about what kind of teacher you are.

Although, from things you have said, I am seriously doubting you are teaching at all.

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Have you read some of the stupid questions this jerk puts on here,,he is either stupid or thinks he knows everything,   abd yes I have a teaching certificate get your facts, you are a bad apple and lke stirring up trouble 

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A: Can a new employer help you? Possibly but it's really hard to say for
A:Can a new employer help you? Possibly but it's really hard to say for sure. I used to be involved in hiring new teachers and a couple of times we had people we wanted to hire who were having trouble with their old school - situations similar to yours. Our school was legally able to hire foreign teachers, did everything by the book and was well connected, usually schools that mess people around with visa stuff aren't operating legally so a call from our visa guy to theirs telling them they were breaking the law, we were in the middle of processing the visa stuff with the PSB and the next phone call they got regarding this teacher was likely to be from the PSB asking some hard questions was usually enough to get them to co-operate. No school doing illegal stuff wants the PSB getting too interested in what they're doing. There's a chance a new employer could figure something out if they really want to hire you but these are difficult times, their hands might be tied too.    -- Stiggs