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Q: How do the visas for foreign domestic help work?

Let me say i'm not hiring domestic help i'm just curious.

 

Two expats i've known in my time here have employed nannies from the philipines to help take care of their kids. I always wondered how that is possible in a high population/low wage country to import more-or-less unskilled (from an economic sense, not saying raising children isn't important skill!) labor which directly takes jobs from working class locals.

 

And I get why people want them, both my acquaintances who did that said the exact same thing. That local nannies tend to flat out ignore whatever you tell them to do and push their values on the kid, assuming they know better than the parents. Where they loved their foreign nanny, who even though they weren't super-educated or anything would take what the parents said as gospel. In terms of behavior standards, scheduling etc. So it's not like these people were just being racist or biased they had consistent issues with local nannies.

 

Anyway, how does that fly with the labor bureau? How is it possible to get a visa to work in a foreign country directly displacing the job of a working class local at a higher wage?

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Good question, I'm quite sure a work visa would be out of the question so they are likely on business/tourist/student visas and making visa runs every three months. I wonder the same about foreigners who work in bars and clubs as their primary form of employment. I know a Russian guy who's a male dancer at a night club and claims to make 300 kuai a night for dancing there. I wonder what kind of visa he's on....

Kaiwen:

I would guess that this guy is on a multi entry business visa. That is not hard to get in Russia using a dodgy company invitation letter. Given you username, I assume you are residing somewhere in the North East. If this guy is too, all that he has to do is put his butt on a second class rail seat once a month, cross the Russian border then turn around and come back.

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expatlife26:

Actually you're wrong about expats who work in bars/clubs being employed illegally or in grey area. I mean some are of course, but there are totally F&B visas available. The test at the labor bureau in theory is whether the skill set doesn't exist. You're running a german restaurant where are you going to find german speaking chinese to work as wait staff? So you can totally hire a hot czech girl who speaks german as a hostess/server. 

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dongbeiren:

@expat fair enough but I'm guessing a skilled French chef would have a better shot at getting one of those than twelve Russians who dance at a nightclub every night. I mean it is unlikely the club is authorized to hire that many foreigners as entertainers.

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I know someone with a Filipino nanny. She likes her a lot but the girl has to do monthly visa runs and worries about being caught coming and going all the time.

 

The Russian dancing boy is surely on the special visa for DJ/Model/Hookers

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