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Q: How easy is it to get an adminstrative job after teaching for a year?
I plan to do the ESL teaching for 1 year (2 tops if I like it there) then I would likely continue on with my regular life back in the US. But I hear of opportunities to be part of recruitment for schools or more administrative positions which I actually aligns more with my graduate study content (public administration). Is it as simple as having the right "guanxi"and talking to the right people while being a teacher?
9 years 11 weeks ago in Business & Jobs - China
If you don't speak or write chinese I would wonder how useful an administrator would be that isn't bilingual. Certainly in my school had I wanted to take part in admin duties I would have been as useful as a 3rd tit. Everything is written in Chinese. I do see jobs advertised that deal with school marketing, dealing with with English speaking students and recruitment. These seem to look for experience in the same field. If you get a admin job in China directly or if you can get an admin job back home, then apply to China, probably your best bet. Employers won t look at Esl teaching as valuable experience. They only care about experience directly related to whatever job you are going for. If you can get a job back home it d be better. If you can't then coming to China as an esl teacher and trying to get into your field might work I guess.
thats my own uniformed unhelpful answer. Any former teachers change to some type ofeducation desk job here?
rxpapi12:
Coming to China for ESL is sort of a gap year thing for me (but I am doing my grad school online, did not want to stop education at all). In my time there (and even beforehand) I do plan to start learning Mandarin so who knows maybe after a year or two years there I could be competent enough to land a job.... The dream possibility for me at the moment is the University I graduated from has a campus in China so an administrative job there is a slight possibility...
dokken:
true true. realistically it ll take more than two years to be anything above basic conversational. you certainly won t be able to read it. a full time esl job will slow you down considerably in learning chinese. good luck bro
There was a guy on here recently who sent a pm to everyone offering 50rmb (I think) for every esl teacher contact details they forwarded. Its not a thing I would like to do to make a living. But if thats what you want to do......hey ho. There are lots of websites out there that offer "immersed learning while earning opportunities". Lots of them are scams. None of them offer legal work visas. That how to spot them. You could contact them and if you can outscam them to pay your expenses to come here for your "gig"" then you have probably found your slot in life. They will have you recruiting before you even set foot in a classroom.
rxpapi12:
Oh nothing really legit ehh...
Let me rephrase then, Aren't there like administrative positions that can be obtained from private schools in China? Really just wondering if after the teaching there's something related to Master's study I could do legitimately...
ScotsAlan:
Sorry dude. No offence intended. Your use of the word "gig" set the alarm bells ringing. How about saying " I want to work for a few years as an ESL teacher in China to learn the trade and do my bit". Describing it as a "gig" is hardly a resume bullet point. Anyway, as I said, there are lots of people doing this stuff already. They have their websites up and running. I do a bing for them now and then to pass the time. Lots of them are scams. Some are genuine... not many.
rxpapi12:
Sorry did not realize the possible negative connotation behind the word, "gig".
ScotsAlan:
Good edit of your original question :-) Good luck fella. Your plan may be to spend a year here, but thats a bad plan. You probably wont want to leave :-)
rxpapi12:
Yeah the not wanting to leave part that's why Im thinking down the line of other employment besides ESL I have done pretty extensive research on what it means to live abroad in China and the one experience I don't want is simply ESL teaching there for years after years....
To start off I already do have some connections in China. I mentioned in a comment how the school I graduated from has a campus in China. This past summer (2014) I was part of a program mentoring the students and it was a really cool experience engaged with these students from China and exchanging culture. I keep in contact with some of them as well as some of the administrators from there so hopefully in my time there (it would be most ideal if I do ESL teaching in the same city as the school or at least near it) I can network my way to going above and beyond an ESL teacher if I decide I like it there.
ScotsAlan:
I was first to answer, so there was no comments for me to gain additional info from. The question was also edited, as I suggested because I thought the original terminology used was maybe not very professional. But hey, now I have read the comments I take back everything I said above. And I apologise for any offence :-) Feel free to report my answer to admin and I am sure they will delete it. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I will make a note not to go onto echinacities on a BCD.
If you don't speak or write chinese I would wonder how useful an administrator would be that isn't bilingual. Certainly in my school had I wanted to take part in admin duties I would have been as useful as a 3rd tit. Everything is written in Chinese. I do see jobs advertised that deal with school marketing, dealing with with English speaking students and recruitment. These seem to look for experience in the same field. If you get a admin job in China directly or if you can get an admin job back home, then apply to China, probably your best bet. Employers won t look at Esl teaching as valuable experience. They only care about experience directly related to whatever job you are going for. If you can get a job back home it d be better. If you can't then coming to China as an esl teacher and trying to get into your field might work I guess.
thats my own uniformed unhelpful answer. Any former teachers change to some type ofeducation desk job here?
rxpapi12:
Coming to China for ESL is sort of a gap year thing for me (but I am doing my grad school online, did not want to stop education at all). In my time there (and even beforehand) I do plan to start learning Mandarin so who knows maybe after a year or two years there I could be competent enough to land a job.... The dream possibility for me at the moment is the University I graduated from has a campus in China so an administrative job there is a slight possibility...
dokken:
true true. realistically it ll take more than two years to be anything above basic conversational. you certainly won t be able to read it. a full time esl job will slow you down considerably in learning chinese. good luck bro
A serious suggestion. Get in via ESL, then do something different. Kung fu tourisim is ongoing, but village life tourisim is non existant. Fishing tourisim has not been touched. Religous tourisim is diffficult. I would like to set up a fishing resort. but mayo chen. Think different.
ScotsAlan:
I drink because I miss fishing. China has massive untapped tourisim potential. It has almost deserted villages close to airports. Why not use them? When I go to the hometown with my wife we see hundreds of magical settings people would pay money for. Chinese think relaxation = 5 stars. They dont understand that westererners will pay good money to do 2 star in an exotic location. Not everyone wants to do the great wall.
rxpapi12:
Can you point me in the right direction of where to learn more about the prospect of Kung Fu tourism?
