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Q: How many lawsuits against 'good samaritans' in China - really?

There's been lots of talk - especially lately with the 2 year old girl in Foshan - that if you stop and help an injured person, there's a good chance that you'll get sued -as stopping and helping is seen as showing responsibility for the injury/incident.

But - just how many lawsuits have actually gone ahead, and how many have actually been successful?? (I could also add, for the record, how many have involved foreigners - given the perception that we have tons of money, and are more likely to be the victims of such lawsuits - that, and the fact we appear to have more compassion and would thus invite that sort of lawsuit, should the situation arise)

12 years 23 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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I was wondering this too. The little girl... that just blew my head open, to the point that I was questioning the idea of moving there.

I've heard of 7 so far... 5 locals, 2 foreigners, but I don't know if they are reliable. I also can't find much reported news on such cases, and I doubt that court records are public, let alone found on the internet. So I don't even know how to research it, other than talking to locals and foreigners who've actually witnessed a situation.

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I imagine it's really only happened a handful of times but the stories get spread around on QQ and Weibo and now it's part of the public fear.

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It's happened enough that it's scared the poop out of them enough to turn their backs on being a good samaritan.

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Or an urban legend grew to become all the various stories the Chinese know by heart... because with the social maturity of the average person here, a good ghost story still scares the poop out of them.

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1.3 billion people, 5-10 known incidents ? I can live with that. 

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There is no way to tell how many cases have been brought or how many have succeded.  Court records here are not open to public viewing.

And besides, the situation is more likely to happen outside the courts, than in them.  People don't get served a summons to appear in court and have evidence provided from both sides.

They get extorted on the spot.  Either the scammer will yell bloody murder until there is a huge crowd and the only way to regain a feeling of safety is to pay the person then and there.

Or, the hospital, for fear of not finding a richer person to pay for the treatment, will demand that you pay a "deposit" before they let you leave. They will even call their police buddies to enforce their ruling.

Don't think things here are civil among the scammers.  They aren't.

The only stories that come forward are A) after the fact and B) from people brave enough (or stupid enough) to think that the person/people they paid won't find out and send thugs after them.

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@Joseph3 - 5-10 known incidents? you must be sheltered! I know of seven here in my provincial city. All involving foreigners, one even got it twice!

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it all started with one old lady and it wasnt that long ago few years back i think, well wasnt that long ago until people people caught on to the scam, the old lady fell in the supermarket and blamed the man that helped her, little did she know the supermarket has cctv, and everyone started questioning whether or not they should help old people

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  It's a simple problem, you just have to carry a poking stick with you at all times. If you see a person who has fallen, or a young child lying in the road who has been run over, you simply poke them a few times from a safe distance to test their state of health, and get ready to run if anyone cries foul. I personally like to stand at a distance and throw small stones at them whilst occasionally shouting "BANG!", but it's really a matter of individual choice when it comes down to it.

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I think that is perhaps one big reason why the local don't get involved in accidents, etc., etc., refuse to help people, etc., etc.  Fear of being accused of something or the other or of having actually caused the accident.

 

Sometimes I wonder though if it's just not a general lack of social responsibility.

 

 

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There is now a Good Samaritans Law, that it will protects those giving and administrating medical assistance to someone in need.  I also believe that you also need to know what you are doing. Personally I think that just by comforting someone, hold their hand is giving assistance, I am sure many who are left along in the middle of the road would take great comfort  to feel a warm hand in theirs. Something most Chinese national have not go the knack of yet.

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I personally know three people who have been sued for helping.

Not valid in terms of statistics, but enough to make me thing twice.

诸葛亮:

It's definitely a huge worry of mine to be sued, not because of money, but because of the idea that someone would try to do evil to me for trying to do good to them. I've yet to be sued, but I still help if possible. If someone tried to sue me, I'd probably freak out and kill the whole town, the judge and their aquaintances. *twitches uncontrollably *

 

Chinese people helped me when I fell down crossing a busy intersection and dropped all of my goods. They ran to me and helped me pick everything up and put them in my bag. I could've been hit by a car, but they stopped the cars from stampeding over me, and helped me. I was dumbfounded, but it's moments like that which warm my cold, black heart.

 

But, on another occasion, when I fell down because of a stragetically-placed concrete landmine, everyone on the street quickly fled in terror, while some of them bellowed, "He'll sue us!" If I were older, or missed an inch, I'd have been leaking cerebrospinal fluid onto the pavement.

 

There are good and bad people everywhere, though it often seems like China has a higher percentage of degenerates.

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