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Q: How much money does the usa owe China?

i know its alot but how much are we talking? How does the usa plan on paying it back? and what will happen to the us army when fossil fuels run out?

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clearly not too smart of a question, if the world runs out of oil the usa military is not the only military on the planet. USa has large stores of oil so if the planet runs out of oil we will have our reserves. i know this is difficult for a local to grasp, but people can invent things and come up with new power sources for weapons and vehicles. which of course china will just copy. americas total debt is about 16 trillion  about 1 trillion of that debt is owned by china (as of 2010). 
so your foolish claims that china owns america are proven wrong. Isreal owns america's govt they buy off the dems and rep each election. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/18/us-federal-deficit-china-america-debt

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Americans own the vast majority of their own debt.
China has trillions upon trillions of internal debt that will implode soon enough.

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china is the 1st and only country out of the global recession. its true the jews own the usa thats why were are so involved in the middle east right now. it will eventually lead to the bankrupcy of the united states like the russians in the 1980's a trillion dollars in debt? thats about the cost of the last 10 years of 2 wars in 2 countries. thats a hell of a lot of money. christ. even with all the vast oil reserves, the united states could only run for about 3 months on those strategic reservers. stupid canadian do you homework about america before u open you mouth.

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Learn how to use the "comment" button moron.

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i just checked your pink ass. do your homework stupid aren't you a teacher? christ

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beaufortninja:

obvious local is obvious again.

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woody:

Decent insults that have an effect usually have one or more of the following in their content: Wit, Sarcasim, Logic, TRUTH, Reason, Maturity. Unfortunately toungekissanarse fails to deliver on any of these. Epic FAIL

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thedude:

Why the obsession about oil reserves? Was this a major point in your American history class in Beijing.

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crimochina:

better yet , what oil reserves does china have? 0 china is more and more dependent on europe, australia and the usa . you need us to buy your crappy products. that will not last the next 5-10 years, more and more compsnies will move out of china either back to their home countries or another 3rd world country. what will your 1.6 billion people do then? china is dependent on africa and latin america for resources the people in these countries are getting angrier and angrier at the chinese business practices and how they treat the local populations. the next 5 - 10 years they will kick the chinese out. why do you think most wealthy chinese are moving out of china? they see where china is heading

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nevermind:

Uh, Canada is flying high right now. China is going into the recession big time now. This place is going broke and in five years is gonna be screwed.

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Traveler:

Did Australia ever go into the recession?

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Australia is still heading that way but not as quickly as some places

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The US doesn't "owe" China anything.  China freely invests in US Treasuries, which have constantly been safe investments with a good return.

If you invest in a company and buy in for $7 a share and their stock drops to $3 a share the next day, do they "owe" you money?  Amazingly, you CAN LOSE money on investments.  US Treasury bonds are investments, not buying pieces of America.  I have no idea how this idea came to light.  But it's flat out wrong.

thedude:

So true.....this has a lot to do with the media...all media around the world. Funny with all this talk...countries around the world are still buying up US treasuries more than anything else because of reliability and return on investment. Invest in Europe?? Not likely. China? Too risky and not proven. I figured this would be over the head of this troll, so I simplified.

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There has been a mad rush of buying US Treasuries this week. Especially from HK. Wonder what's going to happen....

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First of all, the US army would destroy China, no matter what China pretends. We're talking about a military that fights wars WITHOUT using people now in predator drones. The troops are now battled hardened. China's troops are a bunch of Nong's trying to get outta crappy villages. 

Oil reserves? The USA's #1 Ally, Canada, has more than enough dirty oil to last the US military for a two hundred years. 

As for the debt.... China owns 16 per cent of the two percent of debt the US allows to be purchased by foreign entities. So, in short, China owns barely anything. 

What China does have is a ballooning credit problem and a spending addiction. the country is going broke. Then China will expect the West to send them food again, like in the 60s. 

thedude:

I think most of the world is oblivious to the fact the Canada is by far the biggest supplier of imported oil to the US. Even most Americans don't realize this. All the damn whining about our dirty oil drives me nuts.

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Nevermind, your post made me smile. 

@ Kiss Assalips or whatever his name is, when the housing bubble over here pops with a nuclear boom, its going to be the shot heard around the world.

Its going to be just  awful. Stocks, bonds, investments wiped out. Rioting in the streets! Chinese people who save HALF, I repeat HALF of what they earned, wiped out.

While it will drag the whole world down into depession, I think I will be doing better than you because I have planned for it. What do think think 50 cent brigade boy?

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The question is how much of that money will we ever "pay" them ? Uh , none . So who cares tongueonass or whatever your name is . Get a life .

HugAPanda:

lmao! Should that be on... or IN?

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what are you worried about it for? You whipping out your checkbook to pay it? I'm sure you could find out by googling... so do some research and get back to us.

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I dont know why you two people are debating?China is a country trying to earn out a living by making world a electronic dust bin on the other end US is trying to make the world a place where human life is not possible only gadgets will live.Please try to come out of f*cking political materilistic world and try to show some love to humanity .

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I dont know why you two people are debating?China is a country trying to earn out a living by making world a electronic dust bin on the other end US is trying to make the world a place where human life is not possible only gadgets will live.Please try to come out of f*cking political materilistic world and try to show some love to humanity .

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I dont know why you two people are debating?China is a country trying to earn out a living by making world a electronic dust bin on the other end US is trying to make the world a place where human life is not possible only gadgets will live.Please try to come out of f*cking political materilistic world and try to show some love to humanity .

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I dont know why you two people are debating?China is a country trying to earn out a living by making world a electronic dust bin on the other end US is trying to make the world a place where human life is not possible only gadgets will live.Please try to come out of f*cking political materilistic world and try to show some love to humanity .

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Last time I checked it was like 14 Trillion Dollars and that wasn't too long ago. There were jokes that were surfacing that stated the USA was not gonna pay China, but those were only rumors and jokes I believe. Not fact!

Traveler:

Where did you check? I thought it was about two trillion, not that I really care. It won't help China in it's pending super-recession and resulting chaos.

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thedude:

Yes Traveler you are right...about 1.6 trillion last I heard. mattaya I suggest you checks facts before posting. You think 14 out of 16 trillion is US debt is owed to China? This smacks of typical Chinese propaganda steeped in lies.

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They don't "owe" them anything. China bought their debt, it's an investment. The US didn't phone china and ask to borrow money.

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Facts, no BS.

Data issued by US Treasury Dept as of 12-11-2011, so the ink is not quite dry on it yet.

Out of a total 15.5 trillion dollars in foreign debt (in the form of bonds earning 7 % return anually, and Treasury "stock"), China has 1.1341 trillion, which is 6.7 % of it.  The rest is shared by more than 20 other countries. 

And this IS NOT like you going to a bank and borrowing money, here we are talking mostly about bonds, with a maturity date and a return from a stated interest rate.  In a way, you may look it as private industry selling stock on their companies to raise capital to futhfil their plans and needs.

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