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Q: i want to do kindergarten job but i have no experience.How is it possible?
I am sharmin jahan from Bangladesh.But now i am living china at shenzhen city.I want full/part timejob but have not experience and TEFL certificate.SO please tell me How is it possible ?
11 years 32 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
A:
1) leave China
2) get a degreee
3) get a TEFL
4) get 2 years experience teaching
5) apply for jobs working in kindergartens:
6) get a legitimate offer with a legal visa
7) accept the offer
B:
1) stay in China
2) find an illegal job
3) get scammed by your employer
4) get arrested by the police
5) get deported
your choice
dokken:
sorrel did you have two years teaching experience before you came to china? that must mean you have a postgraduate teaching degree in your own country to have taught for two years. i smell bullshit. how many esl teachers actually fulfill this requirement. if they did why would they come here to teach english. dont make this out to be an inflexible requirement if you did not meet it yourself
sorrel:
I agree that the 2 years experience is BS especially as most 'teaching ' positions are 'edutainment ' with little to do with real teaching.
but these are the requirements: just outlining them for the OP
you know and I know that experience is often faked, along with a lot of other things as the employer requires.
me?
i have a CELTA with 4 years teaching English as of this year
mike695ca:
That requirement is relatively new. Just the last couple of years. Anyone that has spent a few years here would have gotten here before and grandfathered into it. 2 years experience in China is still experience.
dokken:
sorrel with respect, I didn't ask you what qualifications you had, i asked you if you had two years teaching experience before you came to china. i'm guessing you did not. therefore it looks a bit hypocritical. the girl is probably in a tight spot. high-handed officialdom like answers probably not helpful to her.
A:
1) leave China
2) get a degreee
3) get a TEFL
4) get 2 years experience teaching
5) apply for jobs working in kindergartens:
6) get a legitimate offer with a legal visa
7) accept the offer
B:
1) stay in China
2) find an illegal job
3) get scammed by your employer
4) get arrested by the police
5) get deported
your choice
dokken:
sorrel did you have two years teaching experience before you came to china? that must mean you have a postgraduate teaching degree in your own country to have taught for two years. i smell bullshit. how many esl teachers actually fulfill this requirement. if they did why would they come here to teach english. dont make this out to be an inflexible requirement if you did not meet it yourself
sorrel:
I agree that the 2 years experience is BS especially as most 'teaching ' positions are 'edutainment ' with little to do with real teaching.
but these are the requirements: just outlining them for the OP
you know and I know that experience is often faked, along with a lot of other things as the employer requires.
me?
i have a CELTA with 4 years teaching English as of this year
mike695ca:
That requirement is relatively new. Just the last couple of years. Anyone that has spent a few years here would have gotten here before and grandfathered into it. 2 years experience in China is still experience.
dokken:
sorrel with respect, I didn't ask you what qualifications you had, i asked you if you had two years teaching experience before you came to china. i'm guessing you did not. therefore it looks a bit hypocritical. the girl is probably in a tight spot. high-handed officialdom like answers probably not helpful to her.
You can apply for any kindergarten job in China and accept any offer that you get which will probably be illegal and you will have no way of enforcing your contract if your employer screws you, and you might get deported for working illegally. Or you can do option A offered by Sorrel.
no harm in applying. you can ask if it is possible to get a z visa. they might need you to fly home and back again, or travel to hong kong to get a visa. the two years teaching experience is not strictly enforced. most tefl s are aimed at older children. my tefl was useless for kindergarten. lets be honest, if you had two years teaching experience would you come to china? you would probably would have a postgrad teaching degree if that were the case. then you would teach at an international school for 30000 rmb a month or stay at home. i had a z visa without two years experience. i think your problem is racism in china. if you are from bangladesh and not sufficiently white looking, you might struggle to find a position and get less money if you do. your english would have to be good
Sinobear:
Your English would have to be very good, unlike dokken who struggles with capitalization and run-on sentences.
But do take his advice, as incompetence and bottom-feeders love company.
dokken:
Lol get a life seriously. i write on my ipad so i write with less effort. Not even the chinese teachers i knew would begin a sentence with "but".
Please work on typing and fixing those "i" before giving those children the best chance to learn something, that's coming from a parent. So to be honest, you shouldn't be teaching until you've improved.
Also I don't think people from Bangladesh qualify for a teaching Z-visa. Natives, Europeans and some South-American citizens might get it, don't think any other nationalities will. And yeah, your Eng sucks :(
thefidu881:
That probably comes from a 'Naive' speaker...I am still searching what you said before starting with 'ALSO, I think'? You have two accounts? Coming back to Z visa for teaching as non native English speaker is not hard since there are enough teachers of 'other nationalities' teaching out there. Teaching English as a non native speaker is of course a tough thing to qualify for as compared to native speakers...I do have a Z visa since 2013, I am teaching English but I had experience and a masters degree in English linguistics prior to my arrival... your English is great...must be playing the role of....period...
You don't need Working visa for the part-time job. Visit Kindergartens in your area, and ask if there are vacancies for FT. No experience? Everybody is without experience at the start of new job.
Look online for the lessons with babies. Yahoo-gle 'ESL in Chinese kindergartens' for lesson plans and other guidance on 'how to.....kindergarten'.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0SO8xwi1tFUrX0AFbBXNyoA;_...
Check British Council for songs and other material:
http://www.learnenglishkids.britishcouncil.org/en/
dongbeiren:
So just work illegally in as many ways as possible? Not exactly the best advice.
ScotsAlan:
Agreed Dongbrein. Not good advice at all. Icnif should know better.
Hotwater:
Worst answer you've ever given! You normally give good advice, in between all your waffle.
icnif77:
All part-time is illegal by Chinese laws. The employer should be persecuted more than FT.
I agree, I shouldn't post.
If you are already in Shenzhen, the best way to find a job would be to go visit the kindergartens and ask them for a job. If you are willing to work illegally you will probably get an offer quite quick. If you want to be legal a lot of leg work will be required. Or you might be lucky and hit the jackpot at the first place you go to. Just go ask the Kindergartens. Easy.... And good luck fella 
icnif77:
c&p:'Worst answer you've ever given! You normally give good advice, in between all your waffle.' 
