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Q: Is it currently very difficult to get a work visa if you want to work in China as a teacher?

Is it presently very difficult to get a work visa if you come from an European country and you want to work in China as a German teacher?

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From what I'm hearing it's pretty much impossible. The borders are closed.

Sandnose:

I haven't seen nor heard of a Tim or Tina for at least a year.

Happy Giraffe is having to resort to local teachers. Parents are furious their little emperors no longer speak English like an extra from Gorky Park.

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Stiggs:

Yeah I have a few mates managing schools, they seem pretty stressed.

It's probably a bit like running a pub where everyone likes your beer but after the last few kegs run dry and you can't get any more, you're going to have to figure out how to sell milkshakes or something.

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icnif77:

LOL at your analogy ... 

 

The thingy is, Asia cannot learn proper English pronunciation without the native English speakers/teachers especially at kids level. Little babies learn very quick 'cause if they like their teacher, they just vacuum all they get from their coach. It is also the fastest and the easiest way to learn second language at young age.

In EU, native English speakers aren't required 'cause domestic teachers speak English with proper English pronunciation. I believe, proper English pronunciation in EU is condition to get an English teaching qualification, i.e. BA teaching diploma. 

False pronunciation will stay with students forever unless they move and live in native English country.

Fact: "By the year 2020, China will have 300 M English students ...", I read somewhere around 2015.

That no. of English students is very close to the entire population of USA, and I usually compare similar teaching of Japanese as second language to all living Americans what is impossible ...

So, native English passport holders will stay busy in China and the rest of the Asia for the foreseeable future.

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Yep, you're not wrong, the demand is huge but as long as the virus is running rampant through most native speaking countries I can't see China opening up the borders to the diseased masses. Who wants covid Mary / Mark kicking off an outbreak and shutting the country down?

 

I reckon the big questions as far as the teaching scene in China goes is how long will this covid drama drag out, and how long can (mostly training schools - public schools will no doubt be ok) survive with no new teachers coming in?

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Yeah, Cofid is no different than entering China with HIV ... In old times, you were required to complete ME before getting Z.

I remember once I spent loads for ME in HK (2013).

I've never considered that test as check-up of general health and what not (healthy stool ... LOL).

Blood test was/is the most important part of the test, however that fact you won't find out of the examining MD.

Just get vaccinated. It isn't that healthy, but if you want to travel, you are better off to get Cofid vaccine than wait for the travelling requirements relaxation..

I plan to hit USA in couple of months for short stay and I'll get into the vaccine to be able to score/use a plane ticket.

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I'm cautiously optimistic a combination of the vaccine (with certificate of proof), better testing systems and probably still a two week quarantine will be enough to open borders again.

 

 

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There is not much on web for "Can you enter China with Covid-19 vaccination certificate?".

US Embassy on Covid China ...

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/covid-19-information/

 

Nothing set in stone, yet for "vaccine and international travel" by Wiki ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_requirements_for_international_travel#COVID-19

I read somewhere, vaccination shouldn't be older than 72-hours ... or that might be for the 'negative-Covid-test' ...

If I wanted to get into China, I'd just hit Chinese Embassy in my home country with questions about 'how to enter Chino ..'

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There probably won't be for some time yet.

 

The first of the vaccines have only just started to be given, I think the world is watching and hoping like hell they work because there really isn't much of a plan B. Give the vaccine some time to either prove or dis-prove itself before you can expect to see any governments making border control policies based on it.

 

 

 

 

 

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icnif77:

You have to get inoculated twice with 30-days or so in between both shots. My mom got the first one 2 weeks ago and then she'll soon get another one ... 

She never left the town in some 70-years and she doesn't plan to, butT .. she's always the first one at anything medical.

I, on the contrary despise all meds, but as it looks, I'll have to get a Cofid vaccine, if I want to move from and come back to EU. Ohh, well ...

I got 2nd pints award from CRIT for comment today. It never happened before... It looks, CRIT is also infected ... with sumtin' ...

That Cofid must be really dangerous, he he.

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From what I'm hearing it's pretty much impossible. The borders are closed.

Sandnose:

I haven't seen nor heard of a Tim or Tina for at least a year.

Happy Giraffe is having to resort to local teachers. Parents are furious their little emperors no longer speak English like an extra from Gorky Park.

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Stiggs:

Yeah I have a few mates managing schools, they seem pretty stressed.

It's probably a bit like running a pub where everyone likes your beer but after the last few kegs run dry and you can't get any more, you're going to have to figure out how to sell milkshakes or something.

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icnif77:

LOL at your analogy ... 

 

The thingy is, Asia cannot learn proper English pronunciation without the native English speakers/teachers especially at kids level. Little babies learn very quick 'cause if they like their teacher, they just vacuum all they get from their coach. It is also the fastest and the easiest way to learn second language at young age.

In EU, native English speakers aren't required 'cause domestic teachers speak English with proper English pronunciation. I believe, proper English pronunciation in EU is condition to get an English teaching qualification, i.e. BA teaching diploma. 

False pronunciation will stay with students forever unless they move and live in native English country.

Fact: "By the year 2020, China will have 300 M English students ...", I read somewhere around 2015.

That no. of English students is very close to the entire population of USA, and I usually compare similar teaching of Japanese as second language to all living Americans what is impossible ...

So, native English passport holders will stay busy in China and the rest of the Asia for the foreseeable future.

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Stiggs:

Yep, you're not wrong, the demand is huge but as long as the virus is running rampant through most native speaking countries I can't see China opening up the borders to the diseased masses. Who wants covid Mary / Mark kicking off an outbreak and shutting the country down?

 

I reckon the big questions as far as the teaching scene in China goes is how long will this covid drama drag out, and how long can (mostly training schools - public schools will no doubt be ok) survive with no new teachers coming in?

1 year 47 weeks ago
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Yeah, Cofid is no different than entering China with HIV ... In old times, you were required to complete ME before getting Z.

I remember once I spent loads for ME in HK (2013).

I've never considered that test as check-up of general health and what not (healthy stool ... LOL).

Blood test was/is the most important part of the test, however that fact you won't find out of the examining MD.

Just get vaccinated. It isn't that healthy, but if you want to travel, you are better off to get Cofid vaccine than wait for the travelling requirements relaxation..

I plan to hit USA in couple of months for short stay and I'll get into the vaccine to be able to score/use a plane ticket.

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Stiggs:

I'm cautiously optimistic a combination of the vaccine (with certificate of proof), better testing systems and probably still a two week quarantine will be enough to open borders again.

 

 

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There is not much on web for "Can you enter China with Covid-19 vaccination certificate?".

US Embassy on Covid China ...

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/covid-19-information/

 

Nothing set in stone, yet for "vaccine and international travel" by Wiki ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_requirements_for_international_travel#COVID-19

I read somewhere, vaccination shouldn't be older than 72-hours ... or that might be for the 'negative-Covid-test' ...

If I wanted to get into China, I'd just hit Chinese Embassy in my home country with questions about 'how to enter Chino ..'

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There probably won't be for some time yet.

 

The first of the vaccines have only just started to be given, I think the world is watching and hoping like hell they work because there really isn't much of a plan B. Give the vaccine some time to either prove or dis-prove itself before you can expect to see any governments making border control policies based on it.

 

 

 

 

 

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You have to get inoculated twice with 30-days or so in between both shots. My mom got the first one 2 weeks ago and then she'll soon get another one ... 

She never left the town in some 70-years and she doesn't plan to, butT .. she's always the first one at anything medical.

I, on the contrary despise all meds, but as it looks, I'll have to get a Cofid vaccine, if I want to move from and come back to EU. Ohh, well ...

I got 2nd pints award from CRIT for comment today. It never happened before... It looks, CRIT is also infected ... with sumtin' ...

That Cofid must be really dangerous, he he.

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Whoever wants it ... it ain't me, that's for sure! 

 

 

China “Accidentally” uses Anal Swab tests on US Diplomats

 

Are you ready for this week’s absurdity? Here’s our Friday roll-up of the most ridiculous stories from around the world that are threats to your liberty, risks to your prosperity… and on occasion, inspiring poetic justice.

In January we mentioned that China began using anal swab Covid tests on school children, claiming they were more accurate than the nasal swab method.

angel China also requires the intrusive (by about 2-3 inches) tests on certain travelers coming into the country. 

Recently, a group of US diplomats and their family members reported that they were subjected to the anal swabs.

In response, China at first claimed that the tests were given in error. But later they backtracked and denied that they had ever required anal swabs for US diplomats.

But the diplomats weren’t aren’t dropping the issue, and they’ve appealed to the US State Department— which has already said it is committed to preserving the “dignity” of US diplomats and their families.

angel Wonderful! So we can all agree that the test is totally undignified. But if that’s the case, why is “dignity” only reserved for government officials? 

Sounds like this is another case of rules for thee, and not for me.

Click here to read the full story.

 

icnif77:

China Emits More Carbon In 2 Weeks Than Australia Does In One Year: Think Tank

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“It is reckless and futile for the political class to impose... further severe cuts to emissions which costs jobs and livelihoods, while China - the world’s largest emitter - continues to rapidly increase its emissions without consequence,”

 

 

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that tickles!  

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Which one: the swab in anal    or air in Chino?   

 

"No Solution Without Beijing": China Accounts For 30% Of Global CO2 Emmission

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"if mainland China’s carbon emissions were to also follow Taiwan and South Korea’s experience, they would increase significantly over the coming decade..."

 

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I saw a video where that smarmy looking foreign minister was saying the American diplomats requested the reaming. That was a couple of days before it was announced that it never happened.

My (American) mate went for a couf test before spring festival because he wanted to bang some chick in another province at spring festival and needed the health code. The only hospital in town without a queue a mile long was the one that sticks stuff in your bum. He reckons they used a mop to swab him. lol

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Abe: "Stop swabbin' around ... my anal, you all ... !" 

 

Japan Asks China To Stop Performing Anal Swabs On Its Citizens

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...procedure causing "psychological pain"...

 

 

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If you can find a way into China, and you can legally get a work visa, then the opportunities are boundless. In fact, salaries are going up as a result of the foreign teacher shortage. You can see perhaps an extra 3000-5000 rmb in some places. As for teaching German in China, I have only seen one job posting for a German teacher in the echinacities site these past few months. 

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At this point I would say it's all but impossible to get a work visa. I've spoken with several foreign recruiters and they are not optimistic that China will reopen anytime this year. Now the Chinese goverment is requiring all foreigners to get an anal swab. It's clear that this is about more than just Covid. I'm looking for opportunities in Southeast Asia now.

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I hate you westerners ..., too! 

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Stiggs:

It could be part of some new policy to deter foreigners but I could just as easily see it being some petty little official somewhere getting a kick out of fucking with foreigners to boost his self esteem or something.

 

Or maybe (seems less likely to me but who knows) it's a scientist somewhere pointing out how anal swabs are the most accurate test method and the official responsible - paranoid about not been seen to do the wrong thing and doing his best to cover his arse - decides to run with the idea not considering the consequences.

 

There was an article recently about Shanghai relaxing visa requirements to help attract high end expertise. It's obviously needed in China, they seem to be willing to do what it takes to get the people into the country, maybe it's a case of one government department not having a clue what another department is doing and everyone doing their own thing. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

 

Nothing would surprise me, this anal swab thing could easily be quietly shelved, just like countless other things that get people worked up when they're announced. Watch this space.

 

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While the anal policy may very well be China exercising excessive cautioun, the complete closing off its borders for the forseeable future is beyond excessive. Even Thailand, arguably the most cautious country in the world during the pandemic, has opened its borders to incoming teachers (with mandatory 14 day quarantine, of course). I'll most likely go that route.

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Stiggs:

I'd be looking at other options too, SE Asia has always interested me, it's still on my radar and I've been watching to see what happens there.

 

As far as China goes, I don't blame them for keeping the borders closed.They went hard, got the virus under control and now life is pretty much normal. Shops, restaurants etc are open, people are out there working and spending their money and the economy is humming. Not a lot of other countries can say the same thing, who'd want to risk that?

 

  It's the same here in NZ, if you're not a returning Kiwi there's almost no chance of you getting into the country. The borders are closed and probably will be for the forseeable future. Life is mostly normal here too, opening the borders would be the end of that so there's a lot of support for keeping the borders closed.

 

Thailand is in a bad situation. The bulk of their economy is reliant on tourism - they just have to open the borders get those visitors back in the country. Hopefully it doesn't blow up in their face, my guess is that it probably will but maybe the vaccine will be the silver bullet, I hope so.

 

 

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Thailand is already seeing the effects of opening to wealthy tourists from China and surrounding countries. But they are able to monitor and contain the scattered outbreaks pretty effectively. I know I would feel a lot safer there than here where states like Texas and Alabama are dropping the mask mandate completely. In Thailand the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few. In the US it's live free or die.

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Yup, I've been (not really closely but somewhat) following the outbreaks there.They always seem to get them under control.

 

Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia .. that area in general ... have been doing well with this thing. When it started I was expecting to see tragedy on a huge scale there. Now that's the area that gives me some hope the world in general will find a way to manage the covid, they're doing it through necessity - we'll probably never eradicate it but hopefully we can find a way to work around it.

 

My guess is after the vaccine has been rolled out the world in general and especially countries heavily dependant on tourism will pretty much say 'that's the best we can do, now it's time to open up cos there's really no other choice'. Vaccine certificates, quarantine on entry, testing programs, regular localised shutdowns etc will probably always be a thing but at least they'll be in business again, or at least as long as they can keep the virus under control.

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