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Q: It happened today. The farmer won and I lost. This is depressing.

Normally i dont let things bother me too much because in the end i always seem to win.

I am big and strong enough to emasculate any farmer i feel is crossing the line.

I have had incredible luck in getting the last laugh with unscrupulous employers.

I have managed to outwit any potential scam artists, shitty landlords, gold diggers ect.

I was invincible....... Then today happened.

There has been " construction" in front of my office entrance for over a month now. And traffic there is torture. 2 lanes is now 4 , not a single douche will let you in, everyone selling their soul to gain half a meter.

As i was patiently waiting in the line to merge. I noticed this farmer in a buick excel driving through the construction site to save 200 meters. I chuckled.

Btw , i knew he was a farmer even from that distance because only a farmer would buy a shitty 1.4 L and pay that price for a damn buick.

1976 called buick, it wants its prestige back.

Anyways , as it was finally my time to go i see him swerving into me. Kind of slowly but

A: I hate my car and i am currently buying a new one

B: i have always wanted to hit these farmers. I have swore to the gods that if i was rich i would buy a Hummer and just smash all of the fuckers.

Anyways, as i was finally making my turn, i had him. In the perfect spot. He was right in my rear quarter panel and i was way ahead. I turned the wheel and dragged my car across his front. I had won!!!! Ive never used insurance before and would be happy to accept even 50% of this mess. Happy i say.

It was lined up perfectly. I laughed, got out and told him in my poop chinese " your so important huh? Cant wait? Well your gonna wait now ! " so i called the cops and the insurance jetta and waited for victory.

And it came.....2 god damn hours later!!!! Traffic was bad they said. So we get out and check the damage. I had to take a picture with my car, and im positive, from their reaction, i am the first person ever to drop it like its hot for an insurance photo.

Then i noticed something.... All the traffic was gone. Instead of 4 lanes merging it was empty. No line of cars i was obviously following and he was obviously being a dick going around. Nothing. Just 2 idiots in a parking lot. I knew i was in trouble.

Then i get this gem: " in chinese law all cars on the outside must yield to the cars on the inside." But i was lined up patiently i claimed. This guy is a cunt! Look at his tires ! hes fucking offroading!! How is it fucking possible for me to turn so sharply for MY car to hit HIS car with my ass????? No answer. This is the law.

I am devestated. This farmer said screw everyone waiting and he still won. He beat me. It hurts..

I dont need to pay jack. It wont cost me a cent. Hell i even take some solice in the fact that hes not gonna have a car for a while as its in the shop and my damage is too unnoticable to even bother fixing.... But its not enough.. This rant is not enough.... I do not take defeat lightly. So i need suggestions.... Is there anything i can do to make him more mad???

His car will be ready in a 2 or 3 days i am assuming, and then i will need to pay first to collect my insurance, and i have a business trip to Shangdong all next week, so it makes me smile that he will call and ask me to pay and then have to either wait a week with no car, or pay it himself first and track me down. But its not enough.

Anyways thanks for letting me rant. I needed it.. The best i got from my Chinese family and friends were " Im sorry, This is China".

Yes it fucking is.

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How is the payment done, cash or bank transfer. I'd go all in on "stoooopid foreigner" to somehow screw up the payment, e.g. pay 79%. So to delay his finalizing of this. 

 

In my dream I have a Mercedes Unimoq

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You mean 'Uniqlo', or is your BercedesMenz new model?

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Im guessing both ways are ok. Im supposed to meet him at buick, pay, get the fapiao to get paid back. So my current plan ia to play the laowai card when i tell him i am out of the province for the week and i dont know how to transfer money.

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You never heard of a Mercedes Unimog?

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OOhhh, Unimog or is it Uni-smog…? 

 

MB 190E is my favorite. I don't like 'aerodynamic' design.

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if his car is parked outside the shop with no camera, their are several things you can do, my favorite would be a a liter bottle of fuel mixed a cup of sugar, but what he did probably does not come up to blowing up his motor, but a sharp knife and side cuts for a new set of tires may be more even for equivalent aggravation and payback. i would wait and find out where he lives and take an ounce of flesh when he does not expect it. roofing nails make great speed breakers also, good luck i am a vengeful asshole and i gave you my first and only upvote i have ever posted, good job.

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oh oh oh..... buy a small shaker of black pepper powder and put in the air intake..... you should assume that the original air filter has been replaced with some scrap metal. 

One of my friends did this to another friend back in the day when air filters where not common place. It completely messed up their friendship. Evidently it is very dissatisfactory to try and start your car and then get showered in pepper powder. The guy said it was worse than teargas (he tried that in the army) and for months each time he hit a bump a small dose of pepper would shoot at him

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So, what happened? Did you buy new tires? 'Stonebridge' are good....

On the more serious note, 'do you use an extra fan for your puter, when you're writing long posts?'

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I wish I had something useful to say dude but, well... this is China so ...

 

Better to just let karma take care of those who deserve it. Maybe they'll be reincarnated as a traffic cop here and have to deal with the imbecile drivers every day.

mike695ca:

I appreciate the sympathy probably more than i should. So thank you. You are obviously a better man that I as i wish karma to deal a far worse hand.

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I couldn't really follow your post. I understand it's a rant, but I couldn't really follow what exactly happened. 

mike695ca:

It may be because your name is dahveed. That doesnt sound English. But its far more likely that my English sucks. This must be why.

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I wonder, is 'veed' pronounced much different than 'weed'?

 

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He deliberately ran his car into another car, and now he is pissed because they caught him. His outrage magnified by his superior attitude: of course they cannot catch him, he is smarter and better than them. Them is everyone.

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Agreed with dahveed, but mike, do not turn it back on a language barrier. You have posted a rather confusing rant up here...

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So let me see if I understand this correctly...

You were upset at the way that he was driving, purposely scraped his car, and are upset because you are legally at fault?

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I think, he's upset 'cause he went over 'Stonebridge'.....with new tires.

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Go out of your way to cause destruction to someone else's things, to "punish" them, and you deserve whatever happens to you.

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.... Nothing happened. I didnt pay a cent. I already said that. So i guess your right. I do deserve what happened to me. Thanks!

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Poor pathetic arrogant  loser. You cause and accident and are happy to waste whatever time for it. Nothing going on in your life ? Looking down on people (calling him a farmer as if farmer is something bad?) You have a serious inferiority complex. You should get counseling.

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Reading S. Freud lately.......surprise

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Correction: its a superiority complex.

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Bloody hell, mike! I knew you were competitive, but this is taking it to another level. Tone yourself down on the road; there are other ways to act out frustration. From what I can understand, you went vigilante on a bad driver, risking your own life and property not to mention time, expecting the law would back you up.
The cops probably detected a whiff of your smug self-righteousness, and mr. Farmer was not incorrect to accuse you of causing the accident. It should be no surprise that they cherrypicked a law that favours the minding-his-own-business need-for-speed-freak over the creating-more-paperwork-for-lazy-bureaucrats laowai. This is one instance where you don't have my sympathy.
And no, I won't be following your example, jumping in front of speeding cars at the zebra crossing. Health concerns, you know. What's next? I'd say let it slide... You didn't even confront a "farmer" with his bad driving; you just had an agonizing cultural exchange with a local, confirming their opinion that we are all batshit crazy. Thanks a bundle for the bad publicity - that's all we need right now.
I'm not religious, but maybe I should go to church just so I can pray that my wife never encounters you on the road. You're like a harbinger of the Apocalypse! I can't imagine what you'll have to say about her secondhand little QQ, or how you'll punish her driving errors...

And finally: With so much stubborn, petty vindictiveness displayed online, either you're on the wumao payroll, or you're missing out on a great income opportunity. Ask the CFTU how to apply for a position - earn income at home while you have your ranting fun!

Robk:

I sympathize with Mike on this one. Chinese drivers are so shitty that they should automatically be in the wrong with every collision involving one and someone non-Chinese.

 

During Spring Festival, it started snowing while on the expressway. Okay, so best to slow it down right? Well, not here! Especially the guys driving the SUVs (as they zoomed past). As we drove off the expressway and neared the exit I burst into hysterical laughter when I saw the about 5-6 abandoned SUVs had crashed into the toll booths and gates. 

 

My mobile phone was out of power or I would have taken a picture. I come from CANADA and have never seen such a thing. Why? 

 

Because we know snow and ice is slippery and with strong winds come frozen brake lines (hard stuff to figure out apparently). 

 

Jia you zhong guo ren! Ni men kai che fei chang hao!  angry

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Robk, your adjustment to the situation added to road safety for everyone, while Mike's actions didn't. He may disagree, but the reality is that the driver and witnesses only learned what they wanted to learn from the encounter, which probably amounts to "foreigners are all [insert derogatory comment]". When i first went skiing, my mom panicked when she saw me hurtling towards an ice river. I didn't know how to brake with my skis yet, but I knew how to fall into the snow. Responding to uncommon weather requires lateral thinking, and that's something they don't teach here. Not even in the international schools.

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Brilliant response (Coineineagh) to one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on the Answer section, and that is saying a lot.

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You provoke an accident in the name of vigilante justice and out of frustration. And you are surprised that it didn't go well ? You speak of karma ?

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LOL....this one's not going well for Mike's play of the sympathy card.

 

In traffic I don't bat an eyelid at the usual driving style. Just let it go. So what if you arrive at your destination 2 minutes later because of being cut off a few times. You aren't going to change the way anyone drives, particularly a 'farmer'. Why try?

 

The other side of the coin is that when your next visa is due, police mentions may have an adverse affect on the outcome.

mike695ca:

I wish it were 2 minutes. Its now 45 minutes to an hour every single say for a 4KM drive home. At one point a 2 lane road actually becomes 6 as chinese cant wait. Then immediately goes back to 2. So i cant stop everyone so i just dont let the dicks go in front of me. Or so i thought....

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4km?......buy a bicycle and save yourself the stress

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People say you cant forget to ride a bike.... This has been proven untrue. Besides the amount of people i see on bikes and scooters getting hit on this 4km trip makes me think the car is still less stressful.

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I must have been tired, i completly forgot that this website is filled with people that will never own a car and sympathize with peasants. That was my bad. Oh well. The drivers will know what im talking about.

icnif77:

See here for the real 'Complaints Department' at work! 'c&p OP' with not too much (proper) English text!

Some OP's comments, here & there:

 

http://answers.echinacities.com/question/why-do-chinese-complain-usa-website?page=1&type=alatest#lastcomment

Have fun!

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Well it made a good story, thats a smal victory.

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I'm sorry, I didn't realise that when you use the word 'peasant' or 'farmer', that the people you are talking about are just pure evil and out to get you.

 

Your attitude is absolutely disgusting and I hope that nobody encounters you and assumes that all foreigners are like you. You need to stop being so arrogant and start finding a way to deal with your anger in a way that doesn't endanger other people's lives.

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Mike - you've shown yourself to be an arrogant wanker in other posts... this one is no different! Keep it up!

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Finally! A little support!

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It was a noble try to school the farmer but incredibly risky. I'm sure everybody has felt the exact same way wishing to educate the farmer - whether they were driving, walking, or waiting in line. For example, how many times have people run into an extra obnoxious farmer beeping as long and loud as he can for them to get out of the road when they were walking? I have met people that do whatever they can to stall cars like this just to force them to learn some patience. The other day when crossing a road crossing I had to fling luggage out in front of my body to make sure the oncoming car would feel compelled to at least slow down for me to cross. I'm sure that jumped on their nerves a bit, but it made me feel a lot better!

This situation merits too big of a risk though. Generally I never expect traffic incidents to go in a foreigner's favor here, simply because anything involving a local having to pay out of his pocket just contributes to the national social problem. I don't advise doing it again unless you just really don't care about what happens to your car, just don't do anything that risks injuries.

DrMonkey:

Also, if the police take note of that, the day you ask for a police record, that can be a problem. Emigration to many countries requires a blank police record over several years... So the day you want to leave China for an other country, you might cut yourself from some desirable options.

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Be thankful you don't live in a country with rule of law, because bragging on the internet about intentionally causing a traffic accident is pretty retarded behaviour.

 

This is just another instance of you being an aggressive asshole, albeit more annoying for the other person involved.

 

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Ive wanted to do that every week, mostly on a Monday. In my book the farmer still lost. Because he can't afford time like us. I've told guys before, hey I only drive a BYD in Shenzhen, if they wanna hit me, then hit me. I love how the insurance works out here..

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I gave your rant an upvote Mike.

 

"Insurance Jetta"

 

Love it.

 

Anyway, you were in the wrong if you intentionally drove into someone.

 

Maybe the insurance man in his Jetta will have this thread brought to his attention.

 

Lol. They had to threaten Ted Bundy with the chair to get him to confess. But here you are boasting about your criminal actions on a public forum .

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LOL

 

And this is why I ride a motorcycle... why you are all battling it out for a meter I am swerving around these guys or moving into the bike lane and pulling ahead. 

 

"Plus, there is another law. If a car hits a bike then the car must pay because it is bigger and should be more careful."

 

So I take some comfort in that, if I survive. 

 

Chin up, but something else you could do to piss him off is to invite him to your home for an apology dinner (then brag about what you have and he doesn't), hit on his wife (just for laughs) and ask him why he only has rides a shit Jetta. 

 

That would be hilarious. 

Robk:

Some people are too touchy... why not have some fun with this situation? 

 

If a guy can't admit he was wrong it is because of a huge ego/pride/face. So the best thing to do is tear down his ego and give him a glimpse of what he really is... 

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Haha, awesome. You kinda pissed me off before with the arrogant pomposity but now you seem all right. Maybe you can start giving classes on how to be successful in China, a country where winners are losers and losers are winners. I have no doubt you can pull through this and keep the record at 100%.

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Inferiority complex: (from yahoo dictionary) 

  1. A persistent sense of inadequacy or a tendency to self-diminishment, sometimes resulting in excessive aggressiveness through overcompensation.

 

Aggressive behavior: causing an accident because you were jealous of the car he was driving.

You are a LOSER. 

xinyuren:

I would call mike's problem a superiority complex.  He clearly thinks he's better than everyone else and he thinks being an @sshole is a good thing..

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Xinyu: I've dealt with people like this. He is overcompensating. He would gladly want people to think he has a superiority complex.. It is a smoke screen to try and hide his inadequacies. 

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Hahaha look at this guy. He doesnt know what an inferiority complex is. He had to look it up! Haha silly silly man.

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Btw, i would never take offence to anything EXCEPT that i was jealous of his car. I would never drive a Buick. Buicks are for people that can only afford a chinese car but want to say they bought foreign. Whereas by definition a loser is someone like you who is a grown ass man yet cant afford any transportation. But all other comments i accept fully. Carry on.

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'7 killed, 20 injured in today's Guangdong traffic pile-up...' CC teli reports

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Why would you do such a stupid thing? You would have forgotten about him 10 minutes later anyway.

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Not having a car does not mean you can't afford one. I don't need one. 

Mike according to you, you previously 'attacked a chinese' (your words). And you go around crashing into people on purpose. For your own sake please come out of the closet already. This overcompensation for what you perceive as weakness is going to get you into serious trouble. It will soon be 2015, the world has changed. Being gay is ok. It is not my thing but what you do in your own life is perfectly alright.

Oh and by the way, you told me you had a superiority complex. That is why I posted the definition of inferiority complex. It describes  your behavior perfectly.\

For those of you who do not know, you can look it up. Many men who struggle with their sexuality act overly aggressive. Please get help Mike.

Robk:

Well, I agree. One doesn't need a car in China. I prefer a motorcycle myself as they are easier to maintain, swerve around traffic, cheaper on fuel and not really dangerous if you don't drive like the self-entitled crazy e-bike peons. 

 

But relying solely on buses and taxi's in China is a horrible move. My wife was injured once and I had to bring her to the hospital to get stitches on her leg. We walked out to the street to get a cab... but in the back of my mind I knew it would be rough cause it was rush hour. We waited about 30 minutes, cause we thought it would be best to take a cab... then I said "Screw this!", went to get my motorcycle... swerved around rush hour traffic and got her to the hospital in less time then we waited for an empty cab. 

 

Try getting a cab while it is raining in rush hour... good luck! Or getting on a bus for that matter... unless you like being felt up by total strangers... 

 

Yup, if you don't have transportation in China, you will get stuck in some awful situations and look like a loser. 

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Oh, I don't worry for him. China is the best place for his kind. I mean, aren't the similarities he shares with your random Chinese dude compelling?

Let's see:

- arrogant

- rude (not the funny kind of rude, the gets old fast kind of rude)

- oblivious, you can school him like you want, he'll never learn (but that gives it a limitless entertainment value)

- so obsessed with pointless life trinkets he actually can't even compute why other people might not give a shit about them. Kid, we know you have a car, we know you're happy to have a car, a huge part of your life revolves around that, we get it. It makes you happy, good, it's a known remedy to many phallic problems, helping millions of men. Problem is we just don't give a damn shit.

- self centered

- will only say something if it contains some form of self praise (first, second of third degree, granted Chinese can't perform those)

- can't write English

- obviously compensating for something, and it's kind of sad. Or it would be if I gave a shit.

 

China might not be a cure for this kind, but it's like the Internet: it sure is a big big dump keeping the rest of the world kind of clean. A deal I accept.

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@robk the difference between you and this clown is that you can afford whatever you want. You chose a real bike. This guy didnt choose poverty, hes stuck. And pissed. Wow if you guys hate me now because i drive a ford I cant wait till November when my Imported Cadillac ats 28 comes! Its booked!!! Youll love me then i promise. Btw your list used to out me is kind of offensive to actual gays, but not me, im cool with it. I come from Vancouver, we love everyone man. Thats not even an insult. Anyways, sorry to reply so late, im on a business/ pleasure trip to Qingdao and i was busy checking into my 5 star hotel. Im going to drink some overpriced mojitos in the lobby bar. You fellas enjoy your night!

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@Mike - Sweet, send me pics when it comes in! 

 

Mojitos are okay, I don't like the minty flavor much. My drinks of choice are White Russians and Ceasers/Bloody Mary's. 

 

Many places in Asia get the second one wrong. 

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@robk, we are certainly on the same page with the white russians. But I cant do any tomato drink. I have heard its an acquired taste and I have tried and failed miserably. 

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White Russians....really?  It's a PERFECT drink......for LADIES' NIGHT! LOLOLOL!

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Mike, if you were really so happy with your life you would never feel the need to be constantly belittling strangers and bragging about having a car and staying in 5 star hotels. You're obviously trying desperately to validate yourself due to some sort of deep seeded inadequacies. I seriously doubt any truly successful people would conduct themselves the way that you do online.

 

Funny how you constantly call the new rich Chinese farmers yet at the same time rub everyone's noses in the fact that MIKE IS GETTING A NEW CAR and MIKE HANGS OUT IN 5 STAR HOTELS. Who's really the farmer here? Learn how to handle your money with some dignity and class. Anyways, I'm guessing you're probably a decent person to get along with in real life. If petty and childish insults to strangers online help you deal with your psychological issues then fire away. It's amusing really.  

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Dude, Chinese drive, walk, shop, and otherwise behave like selfish idiots, but once you start crashing into their vehicles on purpose to 'teach them a lesson,' you have officially assimilated into the zombie horde. 

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This is logic I can not argue nor will i try to. 

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I can totally sympathize with the OP.  Been driving here for 3+ years now, and let me tell you, the local drivers aren't getting any better.  If anything they've gotten worse!  At the same time, OP should know by now that the vast majority of locals are unteachable in regards to anything related to manners or civilized behavior.  And even if the nong did learn something, well congrats....you just popped one little bubble in an ocean of uncivilized bubble wrap.

mike695ca:

That is a brilliant chinese metaphor. 

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A:  "... through ..."?  Only "through" comes to mind is "S
A: "... through ..."?  Only "through" comes to mind is "Shenzhen agent can connect you with an employer, who's authorized to hire waigouren ... and can sponsor Z visa." It's not like every 10th person you meet in Shenzhen's hood can sponsor work visa ...  The only way to change from student to labourer visa is just a regular way by: 1. Finding an employer, who'll apply for an Invitation letter; 2. Exit China and apply for Z visa in your home country's Chinese embassy; 3. Enter China in 30-days after Z visa was stamped into your travelling instrument ...As I am aware, you won't be able to switch to Working permit by remaining in China....,so make ready for a return to your home .... -- icnif77