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Q: Is It Just Me Or.....

Not that I care or anything, but since the new laws for foreigner teachers came out....have any of you noticed there are more non-native Eng speakers than ever before?  I mention this because yesterday I met this Polish girl, we had a short conversation just basically said hi and talked for 5 minutes. She told me she was working at this English school teaching oral English...that's fine and everything...but fuck, she could not speak English. My dog understands more English then she does. This is no joke.  It was horrible. She spoke like she just started learning English a week ago. I was thinking to myself what made you think you can teach English, even to little kids?? And worst yet, who hired this person?? I've been out of English teaching for years now....but before it seemed to be a higher quality stock of teachers.

 

I'm not trying to sound mean, I met lots of non-natives that could teach English better than most, maybe had an accent but at least knew the language quite well. I know some that were really bad at English but could get by teaching kids...like apple, orange, he/she I like /I don't like..ect..this is the worst I've seen yet. I't took her 5 minutes to get out 2 or 3 sentences...and it was 90% wrong. I could just barely make it out. Really nice girl...I just don't know what she was doing teaching English. It would be like me thinking I could go to Japan and teach Japanese...and I know very little Japanese...maybe 20 words.

 

I just dont come across many natives English speakers anymore....maybe its just me and where I live...I don't know...just seems funny to me. Anyone else noticed this?

 

Like I said, I'm for anyone wanting to teach English, legally or illegally, black, white, blue ,green from any country or whatever....but your skill should be higher than a 2-year-old Chinese kid.

26 weeks 3 days ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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I've heard that with the new visa stuff schools are having a much harder time recruiting teachers.

 

I think that if people are going to have to go to the same trouble to get the visa as they would if they were going to Korea, Japan etc then they might as well just go to Korea , Japan etc where they can do things like use the internet freely and send their money home without it being a massive pain in the arse.

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One of those mysteries of the Chinese psyche.  I live in McFkNowheresville.  The English teachers (Chinese) at the local HS blew my mind.  I was in a conversation with one and somehow it lead to me sitting there repeating Cat / Dog , Cat / Dog ,  she was like huh?

I was like,,,, WTF?  I got kinda mean though, I said something like 'You are an English teacher?'  It's fkn amazing.  Then it occured to me (for the thousandth time), they teach from those silly little English textbooks.  They never speak English, and they never hear spoken English.  I'm the first weiguoren that has ever showed up around here. And being a public HS, no one gives a flyin' fk.  Do my time, get my pittance, repeat.

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I've heard that with the new visa stuff schools are having a much harder time recruiting teachers.

 

I think that if people are going to have to go to the same trouble to get the visa as they would if they were going to Korea, Japan etc then they might as well just go to Korea , Japan etc where they can do things like use the internet freely and send their money home without it being a massive pain in the arse.

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Which city?

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There is no other choice, but Chinese English teachers must take over teaching of English in China, however Chinese Teachers English level didn't improve much since (ever) .... 2009, I came first time to China.

 

I met two Chinese English teachers in Bijie, Guizhou last year with acceptable English pronunciation, but both lack of fluency.

 

Chinese English teaching is just Chinese-(English)-teaching .... more pose than real results, reflexion of 'face-culture'.

 

Chinese English fluency would improve more overall, if Native English teachers in China would teach English to Chinese English teachers more than what we do and teach Chinese students.

However, 'face' prevents acceptance of that approach.

 

Even enormous number of Chinese English students (300 M) should tell Chinese management that there aren't enough English teachers in the whole world to satisfy that demand.

 

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Most of the non-high-tier-city money is in teaching to very young kids. Colours, numbers, the alphabet. English ability requirements aren't that high. If she has a bad accent though, that'll hurt the kids.

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Lets get the terms right, not visa, but rather WP= Working permit I think its more than just the Work Permit but rather the Work permit that proves our qualifications are NOT upping the market salary with a growing China and a huge growing number of 2nd child policy children being born, I don't know if you noticed but salaries went 10% down rather than up, so teachers are asking themselves why the heck would I come here for that salary?

 

I've seen a lot of jobs but none that pay well and like Biggj123 points out in Shenzhen I am also seeing tons of none native teachers and their accents makes me roll my eyes, sorry I've been a reading & phonics teachers for years and that accent won't cut it no matter what degree they hold, there's a reason for the new the new WP cards and the score of a B, but its not being used as it should be.

 

The next 10 years of China are going to be busy and great for us teachers, stay put and relax and wait, all will work out for us who stay put, don't keep changing jobs.

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Good read. I think I should just start a Japanese school tomorrow and start teaching! 

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My daughter is doing English lessons on Saturdays now. Canadian teacher. Young dude.

From the videos the wife has sent me, all he does is play games with them. He speaks in English and a Chinese assistant repeats it in Chinese. No teaching at all.

But for me it is value for money. Because she is in an environment where she can speak English without being pointed or laughed at.

This Canadian guy has a heavy accent. I know Polish an Russian who speak English better.

Fuck.. I am a native speaker but my Chinese wife speaks better English than me.

This 'native speaker' rule is rubbish.

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