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Q: Is this job offer acceptable in your opinion?

11000 x 9 months + 5000 x 3 months (salary in Feb, July and August, when school is closed) = 114 000 Rmb per year + 7000 Rmb return flight + free apartment. Contract requires 25 classes (45') a week 'edit:' 'with office hours', teaching Oral English to Middle School students with set curriculum.

 

Is that good offer by your opinion? Let's talk about the job advert offer and not about the taker (me), pls!

 

I've never been offered lower salary than what was advertised, because I am not Native English teacher. In other words, if my CV is accepted, I get Contract with the same salary and benefits as per advert.

 

Since 2012 (Fuk, Xinjiang), I've never had an offer lower than 8000 Rmb a month + 8000 Rmb (split between 3 months recess), return flight and apartment for 15 classes per week for Oral English teaching.

I had 9000 Rmb in Fujian, and now I am on 8000 x 9 + 5000 x 3 and all other benefits in Henan for 15 classes (45') per week.

 

Job offers at International schools on 'Jobs' here are terrible IMO, what is the reason I'm asking about your opinion on this offer.

Most offers for Oral teaching at International schools require 20-33 classes a week with 14k in Beijing, Qingdao, Shanghai. Only 'subject teaching' offers are higher/in the range of 18 -25k.

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Considering you're a non native speaker I guess it's decent.

 

When I first moved to China my salary was like 8,000 RMB a month. Now I am like on double!

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For me, it would depend on the holidays. Is that that the 3x5k months are for. Getting paid when on holiday?

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Depends where - are you staying in Nowheresville? If you are in the middle of nowhere, then it is actually not too bad... I've seen worse (although, for less hours). And also depends on the apartment.

 

Why are you getting 5kx3m? Holidays? Is that the same deal as the other teachers?

 

I don't get why you're asking... you're effectively saying "should I take a job that is more hours (which usually doesn't matter too much - if you're there, you're there, and not away somewhere else), that pays 3K more per month?"

 

Granted - 8k/15 hours/week = 133/hour. 11K/25hours/week is 110/hour.  Then you need to ask yourself - what other offers am I getting? Do I currently need stability over higher pay?

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Since no more suggestions here, I had to put my foot down angel....!

 

After lengthy negotiations through the Skype and phone this pm, I suggested I will accept/sign Contract, if they'll include  'probation notice' on the Contract with:

'FT will be paid 11k/m for 25 classes per week in 30-days probation period, and after that salary will be 12k/m for 25 classes/week for the remaining duration of the Contract.'

I gave up on demand of 3 x 6k pay in holidays recess, and I will accept 3 x 5k.

Apartment on the School's premises Q&A:

 

Title: Hitting On All Cylinders

 

me: 'How will you know, if student entered my apartment in the School?'

she: 'I don't understand!???'

me: '....sometimes you will come across the teacher or anybody else, who likes to have an inappropriate contacts with underage ......'

me again: 'How will you know, if student entered my apartment in the School?'

she: ... silence ......ohh, I got it! Apartment can't be on the School premises.... I'll talk to the boss tomorrow! We'll get you an apartment in the city!

 

You can't say, I don't know 'how to ....negotiate' with Chinaman, can you?'

 

It's my mum's fault ....!

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Well can they also get Z visa and FEC for you?

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If it is all about dollars, then fine. But, for me, there is always much more to consider besides that. A 1000 rmb here or there is not going to make or break me. I look for ease of getting around China (trains, planes and automobiles). What is there to see and do in the area on my days off. City size. Amenities and benefits offerings. And, of couse what the school is like and their students. I have worked in some great places. And, some are not so great. But, each location has their charms and interests. Each school has had pitfalls and cherished moments.

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Considering you're a non native speaker I guess it's decent.

 

When I first moved to China my salary was like 8,000 RMB a month. Now I am like on double!

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What does the with office hours mean? That the office hours are already included in the time or that they will be extra? If they are extra then how many hours?

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OT (a bit):

 

Does anybody know, how to c&p scanned file on Safari OS? I don't have Windows OS on the puter.

 

I need guidance on 'edit-blank-parts of the scanned file', too!

I want to post my present Contract, I was talking about.

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11 or 12,000/mth is terrific.  Having more than 16 or 18 classes is not.

The teachers in my city all earn 7k/mth, except for me.  I'm on 9 and this semester I have 15 classes.  Last year only 12 and 14, same money.  I don't do any office hours.

The new college has approached me to work for them next semester and they offered 4.5 for 18 or 20 classes.  I do need a new job but I don't need that one.

In your case, rather than ask for more money, could you seek fewer classes?

 

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Guys the FEC and Z Visa documents, medical, etc. All comes up to less than 1500 RMB. So, its not a big deal for them to pay for it for you, 1500/12 = 125. That's absolutely nothing! They always make it seem like they are doing you a huge favor while they actually are not.

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