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Q: Lies from Past Employer making a Visa difficult?

Hi, does anyone know how I can check if the past employer put something negative on my file with the government? Basically, the company agreed to pay for extra teaching hours a set amount according to the contract. Instead they paid nothing for those extra hours. I told them they had to pay what they owed or I wouldn't work for them anymore. Since I demanded my money, they secretly went behind my back and hired someone to take my place at the school.

 

At the time I did not want to go through any legal process so did nothing. But if this is harming my chances of me getting a new visa, then I need them to correct the record as to what happened.

 

The company is partly foreign owned. I plan to go to a lawyer in the foreign country, and talk to Chinese friends about a lawyer in China. I will also go to the business bureau in the foreign country and bring the matter to the Chinese consulate. I might also join a documentary in my home country about bad business practices when working in China for bad employers.

 

I actually don't want to do any of this. That is why I didn't find a lawyer when it happened. But I really want to secure another job and visa, so this might be my only option.

 

But before this, is there any way I can check what they said about me, just to be sure?

49 weeks 6 days ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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any way you act will result in you losing financially, as resorting to lawyers will be draining both financially and of your time.
this is what China relies on when it comes to foreign workers, that the process of redress will discourage any action

You were lied to, you will be lied to agian.
My first work place in China lied abot me and it was so obvious that the other foreign teachers knew this too.

you left it too late to act, so you should just cut your losses and move on.

best bet is to leave China and get work  elsewhere.

good luck !

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any way you act will result in you losing financially, as resorting to lawyers will be draining both financially and of your time.
this is what China relies on when it comes to foreign workers, that the process of redress will discourage any action

You were lied to, you will be lied to agian.
My first work place in China lied abot me and it was so obvious that the other foreign teachers knew this too.

you left it too late to act, so you should just cut your losses and move on.

best bet is to leave China and get work  elsewhere.

good luck !

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I just had the same thing happen to me as far as them putting something bad on my record and now I am rejected for work permits. We are not alone. I have seen it happening to others too. Something strange is going on and I don't understand it. I contacted 6 law firms in China. They all seem scared to even take the case. They won't explain why but they say there is nothing I can do short of going to the immigration office and begging. But it is happening to a lot of foreigners right now. When I asked a few visa experts I know in China they all said the same thing. They said you must have done something illegal. They said if negative comments or bad complaints from schools on foreigner's records kept you from getting approved in the future, then there would be no foreigners working in China anymore. They say it must be something criminal. Yet I never did anything and I don't understand.

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i have seen this happen when a teacher, who has been working in a school for a few years, asks for a pay raise (which would only be fair).
This increases the turn-over of foreign teachers as new arrivals are not wise to the scams employers pull.
it is a way to keep salaries low.

lies are put on record, they are not told anything and are certainly not allowed an independant review of what has been written.

there are no safeguards or protections for foreign workers as we are veiwed as a 'necessary evil' in being there:
parents are told that there is a foreign teacher so as to draw in parents (and cash)

unless you are married to a local person who will fight your corner, you are on your own.

lawyers won't touch this sort of thing because of 'guanxi'.

 

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I see it very simple: "They don't want you!"

 

What are you going to do? ... i.e. their house, their rules.

Hire a lawyer ... ? For what?

Even if you'll win the lawsuit and you'll get the desired WP ... what then ....?

 

"I work in China, but nobody likes me ..."

 

IMO, you would be better off by working at ayatollahs ...

 laugh ... as an US citizen, of course ...  

 

Sane person would never accept any kind of work in such an environment ...

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Try for an advice this one:

 

http://www.fbt-chinavisa.com.hk

 

Forever Bright Visa agency in Hong Kong.

In my time in China, Forever Bright was the most trusted and reliable visa agency, which can also advice you on immigration matters.

Just send them request for help at 'Contact Us' posted on the weblink...

 

The other thing, you can do is to find out which Chinese gov. agency approves Working permits for laowai and contact them with Qs and request for help.

Before Labour law changes in 2017, that agency was SAFEA (State Administration for Foreign Experts Affairs), but it was replaced by 'I don't know who ...'.

 

You have to know, once you'll change your lying employer, new one won't be any better.

It's a Chinese saving-the-face culture, i.e. you are a foreigner and if you aren't cheated and lied to, employer is losing the face ...

 

It's much simpler to forget China and move elsewhere ...

 

Good luck!

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Did you actually apply for another job and get rejected I think that's the part that's missing out of all of this. I wouldn't worry about them giving you a bad record like yourself they also don't want to waste the time with regards to your Visa and background. They're important part is just moving on to the next phase of their job keeping the customers happy. 

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