The place to ask China-related questions!
Beijing Shanghai Guangzhou Shenzhen Chengdu Xi'an Hangzhou Qingdao Dalian Suzhou Nanjing More Cities>>

Categories

Close
Welcome to eChinacities Answers! Please or register if you wish to join conversations or ask questions relating to life in China. For help, click here.
X

Verify email

Your verification code has been sent to:

Didn`t receive your code? Resend code

By continuing you agree to eChinacities's Privacy Policy .

Sign up with Google Sign up with Facebook
Sign up with Email Already have an account? .
Posts: 7450

Emperor

1
1
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Q: London attacked again .

A van has ploughed into people on London Bridge.
No word of deaths or injuries yet.

6 years 38 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
Highest Voted
Posts: 5333

Emperor

3
3
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Sigh....this again.

 

This shit is becoming the new normal. It won't be long before the news doesn't even really register, a bit like when you see a headline about another kid shooting up his school and don't bother reading far past the headline because you already know what it's going to say.

 

It will probably be the usual suspects, homegrown or immigrants - doesn't really matter, they'll have some prepared statement about how it's revenge for the nightly bombing of innocents in ... wherever, ISIS will claim credit for it whether they were involved or not and nothing will happen to try and address what sets these wankers off because it's not a simple situation that can be solved easily, even if anyone was willing to do what it took.

 

I just feel bad for the people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time - they won't be the last unfortunately - and hope that they catch the people behind it alive and throw them into the darkest prison they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

retiredinchina:

http://By Kayleigh McEnany, opinion contributor - 06/04/17 06:50 PM EDT London a reminder that deadly political correctness perpetuates terrorism A toxic and deadly political correctness has enveloped Western Europe and enabled an unending wave of terrorist attacks. Refusing to utter the words “radical Islamic extremism,” opening the door to millions of half-vetted refugees and decrying the concepts of borders and assimilation have resulted in a culture in crisis – a culture without democratic, freedom-loving identity and constantly under murderous attack from cancers within. Seven dead in London. Twenty-two dead in Manchester. Twelve in Berlin. Eighty-seven in Nice. Forty-nine in Orlando. Thousands dead in the Middle East. All in the last year alone. This is the reality we live in, and yet far too many have chosen to bury their heads in the sand of ignorance. Blind to reality, they ignore the facts. The fact that last Ramadan – the Muslim holy month during which ISIS called for “all-out war” on “infidels” – an Islamic terrorist attack occurred once every 84 hours. The fact that far-left Chancellor Angela Merkel admitted mistakes in admitting millions of refugees into her country. And the fact that 65 percent of all people convicted of terrorism or terrorism-related offenses in the U.S. were foreign-born, pointing to a clear, inextricable link between immigration and terrorism. These are facts, in the face of which fictitious falsehoods are embraced. To be sure, most immigrants are good and most Muslims are peaceful. But responsible leaders must nevertheless acknowledge the radical Islamic extremists that seek to cross our borders and kill our people.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

let's see, democracies should evolve, right, so evolution from the barbary pirates to the present day Isis, how is that working out for the new world order? speechless, yea, a little bit.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

ScotsAlan:

Upvote from me stiggs.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Answers (21)
Comments (34)
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Reports of stabbings after van drove into people
10 people injured

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Gunfire also reported in the area .

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

2nd attack in the area.
Police in the Burrow market area respond to second attack.
Police going house to house

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 19944

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Van Rams Into Pedestrians On London Bridge Followed By Knife Attack, Casualties Reported: Live Feed

"What I saw: injured pedestrians, first responders, armed police, people running north. What I heard of: stabbings, injured"

icnif77:

In what appears to be a repeat of the deadly March 22 terrorist attack on Westminster Bridge in London, on Saturday night a white van rammed into as many as 15-20 pedestrians as "several people mowed down" on London Bridge in central London in what has been dubbed a "major incident." The incident happened at 10.30pm on Saturday. According to preliminary reports there have been at least 6 victims, and a cab  driver on the bridge has reported he saw a stabbing man. About five people were being treated for injuries after the vehicle mounted the pavement and hit them, she said.

Scotland Yard reports that in addition to the car ramming, London police say they have also responded to an incident at Borough Market; armed officers at scene. It is unclear if the two incidents are releated.

Several eyewitness accounts have emerged which suggest there have been multiple casualties, with bodies strewn across the pavement. Others reports that several people are receiving emergency treatment after being stabbed. One woman told the Sun; "We had to run there was loads of shooting".

BBC reporter Holly Jones, who was on the bridge at the time of the incident, said the white van was driven by a male driver and was "probably travelling at about 50 miles an hour - veered of the road into the crowds of people who were walking along the pavement," she told BBC News.". The van, which was travelling from the direction of central London, headed towards the south side of the river.

According to Will Heaven, managing editor of the Spectator, a man crashed into people on the bridgge, "then there was stabbing attack." Heaven also notes that "it seemed south side of London Bridge epicenter of what seems a terrorist attack. We have been escorted by police from bridge." He adds that "what I saw: injured pedestrians, first responders, armed police, people running north. What I heard of: stabbings, injured."

According to Sky News, "all the information points in the direction of another terrorist attack."

 

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

3rd attack reported.
A suspected back pack bomb located also.

icnif77:

Update 6:55 p m

BBC reports that multiple people have been killed in the various incidents in London,

* * *

Update: 6:42 pm

According to a BBC reporter at the scene, police are now searching for three possibly armed suspects. According to Sky News, citing Scotland Yard,  there has been a third separate incident in the Vauxhall region in South London. The BBC also adds that it can confirm earlier reports of gunshots being fired. Reports suggest it may have been more than one incident:

  • A van hitting people at London Bridge and three people then jumping out of the vehicle and attacking members of the public;
  • A separate incident at Borough Market
  • Police have now said they are responding to a third incident in Vauxhall

It is understood that police are looking for three suspects who may be armed.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 5333

Emperor

3
3
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Sigh....this again.

 

This shit is becoming the new normal. It won't be long before the news doesn't even really register, a bit like when you see a headline about another kid shooting up his school and don't bother reading far past the headline because you already know what it's going to say.

 

It will probably be the usual suspects, homegrown or immigrants - doesn't really matter, they'll have some prepared statement about how it's revenge for the nightly bombing of innocents in ... wherever, ISIS will claim credit for it whether they were involved or not and nothing will happen to try and address what sets these wankers off because it's not a simple situation that can be solved easily, even if anyone was willing to do what it took.

 

I just feel bad for the people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time - they won't be the last unfortunately - and hope that they catch the people behind it alive and throw them into the darkest prison they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

retiredinchina:

http://By Kayleigh McEnany, opinion contributor - 06/04/17 06:50 PM EDT London a reminder that deadly political correctness perpetuates terrorism A toxic and deadly political correctness has enveloped Western Europe and enabled an unending wave of terrorist attacks. Refusing to utter the words “radical Islamic extremism,” opening the door to millions of half-vetted refugees and decrying the concepts of borders and assimilation have resulted in a culture in crisis – a culture without democratic, freedom-loving identity and constantly under murderous attack from cancers within. Seven dead in London. Twenty-two dead in Manchester. Twelve in Berlin. Eighty-seven in Nice. Forty-nine in Orlando. Thousands dead in the Middle East. All in the last year alone. This is the reality we live in, and yet far too many have chosen to bury their heads in the sand of ignorance. Blind to reality, they ignore the facts. The fact that last Ramadan – the Muslim holy month during which ISIS called for “all-out war” on “infidels” – an Islamic terrorist attack occurred once every 84 hours. The fact that far-left Chancellor Angela Merkel admitted mistakes in admitting millions of refugees into her country. And the fact that 65 percent of all people convicted of terrorism or terrorism-related offenses in the U.S. were foreign-born, pointing to a clear, inextricable link between immigration and terrorism. These are facts, in the face of which fictitious falsehoods are embraced. To be sure, most immigrants are good and most Muslims are peaceful. But responsible leaders must nevertheless acknowledge the radical Islamic extremists that seek to cross our borders and kill our people.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

let's see, democracies should evolve, right, so evolution from the barbary pirates to the present day Isis, how is that working out for the new world order? speechless, yea, a little bit.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

ScotsAlan:

Upvote from me stiggs.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 348

Governor

1
1
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

I cannot tell you about my anger when I read about it in El Pais about the attack. 

 

I found new updates straight from theguardian.com 

What we know about the London attacks

There are reports of multiple casualties after a terrorist attack at London Bridge and Borough Market. Here is what we know so far

London attacks - live updates

  Counter-terrorism special forces are seen at London Bridge on June 3, 2017 in London. Counter-terrorism special forces are seen at London Bridge on Saturday night. Photograph: Dan Kitwood/Getty Images

Shares1,746 

Sunday 4 June 2017 01.40 BSTFirst published on Sunday 4 June 2017 00.28 BST

  • Police have declared that attacks in two closely connected areas of London are “terrorist incidents’’
  • The incidents are on London Bridge and in nearby Borough Market 
  • At least one person has died and there are multiple casualties
  • The first report of an incident was of a white van ploughing into pedestrians on London Bridge at about 10.08pm
  • Witnesses say the van swerved onto the pavement and there have been reports of gunfire although that has not been confirmed
  • A second incident has been ongoing in Borough Market where there are reports of multiple stabbings
  • Police say they responded to a third incident, a stabbing at Vauxhall, but this is not connected to the events around London Bridge
  • Theresa May, the prime minster, has called the events a “terrible incident’’ which is being treated as a “potential act of terrorism’’
  • Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, has thanked emergency services after the “brutal and shocking incidents reported in London”
  • London Mayor Sadiq Khan has condemned the “barbaric” and “horrific” attack as “deliberate and cowardly”.
  • Guests at hotels in the vicinity of the attacks have been evacuated
  • Security services have carried out a number of controlled explosions in the area of the attacks
  • Police are urging people to stay away from the affected areas
  • The government has said there will be a meeting of the emergency committee Cobra on Sunday morning

Topics

 

philbravery:

Anger....im looking at that in the rear view mirror. Listening to eyewitness reports on the TV make me hate more than anything else.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 348

Governor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Here are Washington Post reporting on the London Bridgen attack: 

 

Link: 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/police-declare-major-incident-on-lo...

 

Detailed repport: 

 

 

By Griff WitteRick Noack and Karla Adam June 3 at 8:19 PM

LONDON — A van driving at high speed mowed down pedestrians on London Bridge Saturday night before the occupants got out and began stabbing patrons at nearby bars and restaurants, witnesses said in an attack that police described as terrorism.

Police said at least one person had been killed. Witnesses described a trail of serious injuries on the bridge and in the adjacent Borough Market.

The attacks set off scenes of panic in the heart of London on a cool June evening as the city’s streets were filled with people heading home from dinner or out to pubs.

London’s Metropolitan Police said the events were being treated as “terrorist incidents.” 

British Prime Minister Theresa May, who returned to 10 Downing Street for emergency meetings with security officials, had earlier described the incidents as “a potential act of terrorism.”

  ">The scene after a van hits pedestrians on the London BridgeView PhotosWitnesses reported that a white van was traveling fast when it mounted the sidewalk and plowed into a group of people crossing the Thames River on foot.

Witnesses reported that a white van was traveling fast — approximately 50 miles per hour — when it mounted the sidewalk and plowed into a group of people crossing the Thames River on foot around 10:30 p.m.. 

Witnesses speaking to the BBC said the van collided with a guardrail, and three occupants got out. They then began attacking people on the bridge with knives before making their way to Borough Market.

London’s Metropolitan Police later confirmed an attack at Borough Market, an area packed with popular restaurants that is located just south of the bridge. Police said that armed officers were responding to the scene, that there were reports of injuries from knife attacks and that shots had been fired — though it was unclear by who.

“I heard many gunshots and I heard people running away,” said Joe Dillon, 23, who was near London Bridge when the incident occurred. “Police officers were shouting: ‘Get out of here, you need to go!’ I heard at least eight rounds of gunshots, but I’m not sure who was shooting. When I arrived a second after I had heard the screams and the shots, I saw five or six officers running toward the van.”

Cell phone video from a restaurant in the market showed people diving under tables amid the sound of breaking glass as officers rushed in and ordered patrons to stay down.

Tamara Alcolea, 24, who works as a bartender in a pub called Southwark Rooms, which is near the bridge, said the first indication that something was wrong was when she heard that someone had been stabbed. in the proximity of London Bridge.

“Then we heard gunshots and people started to hide beneath the tables,” Alcolea said. “We locked ourselves in the office. From the window, I could see an injured person being treated by emergency personnel. Then the police came in and told us to run. Everyone was panicking."

Police said they were responding to a third potential incident in the Vauxhall area, which is about a mile from the scene of the first two incidents. The subway station at Vauxhall was briefly closed, but later reopened. Police later clarified that the Vauxhall incident was unrelated.

Dozens of police cars sped to London Bridge, with helicopters hovering overhead. Police closed the bridge and urged the public to avoid the area.

The incident caused chaos in the heart of London in an area normally bustling on a Saturday night. Pedestrians near the bridge said they were ordered by police to run. Video footage showed people fleeing in a panic. Two hours after the incidents began, police were still widening cordons and pushing bystanders further back from the scenes.

Officials scrambled to respond to the attacks.

May, who had been out campaigning ahead of an election slated for Thursday, returned to Downing Street and was being briefed by security officials.

Today's WorldView

What's most important from where the world meets Washington

 Sign up 

Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the opposition Labour Party, said on Twitter: “Brutal and shocking incidents reported in London. My thoughts are with the victims and their families. Thank you to the emergency services.”

President Trump was briefed on the incident, and immediately took to Twitter to say: “We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!”

In a follow up tweet minutes later, he wrote: “Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there - WE ARE WITH YOU. GOD BLESS!”

Saturday’s incident comes less than two weeks after 22 people were killed in a bomb blast following a Manchester concert. And it comes less than three months after a driver killed four pedestrians on another Thames crossing, Westminster Bridge. The assailant then stabbed to death a London police officer at the gates of Parliament.

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

Reports of 5 perpetrators 3 of which killed by police.

Englteachted:

5 people working together, I guess they can't say a lone wolf for the sake of PC

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 1103

Shifu

2
2
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

We are at war. The US, Britain, France and allies are dropping bombs on the middle east every day and these ISIS/homegrown brainwashed fanatics are attacking wherever they can. In the long run, disengaging from wars in the middle east would be a preferable strategy for western countries but in the meantime a crackdown seems necessary. Bring the army back from the wars and put in the streets. This shit in Europe is getting out of control. 

Englteachted:

This, to some degree

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

Shining_brow:

That's probably the point of the attacks.

 

However, that would just mean the locals in those countries who are opposed to IS will just end up being killed (raped, tortured, etc).

 

While it's seen as shocking and terrible that a dozen people get injured or killed in Europe, why isn't there the same sort of outrage when hundreds and thousands get injured or killed in the Middle East?

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

philbravery:

@ shiny things . I thought about your comments for a while and changed by position from being pissed off to laughter. Laughter because you actually believe the what you are seeing through rose coloured glasses. Change your percription and ease off the pain medication dude.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

dongbeiren:

Shining, we should be outraged when these fanatics kill Muslims, I agree. The fact is ISiS wouldn't exist if the stupid Iraq war never happened. We should do what we can to help locals contain them over there but once our bombs start falling and civilian casualties happen, there will be blowback. Our priority has to be to keep our own people safe first and foremost. We can do that better with more resources devoted to security and intelligence gathering and less on drone strikes in Syria.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

i disagree with all of you, targetting so called military targets and leaving civilians alive to seek revenge is a stupid policy. war should be complete destruction and victory, civilians be damned or don't start a war at all.

 

When civilians know they will die with terrorists, the fear brings down the violence, but when you give them a get out of jail card with crazy rules of engagement and then pay for their trip to europe, you are just a damn fool.

 

 

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

ScotsAlan:

Has war been declared?

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

dongbeiren:

Scott's, even your socialist buddy Francois Hollande said France was at war with ISIS. The US hasn't declared war since World War II so that is irrelevant. The US and co are dropping tons of bombs on Iraq and Syria and supporting Iraqi ground troops. We are now subject to almost daily terrors attacks. Sounds like a war to me and it's being fought in our streets so why not put the army there?

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

philbravery:

Reports perpetrators called out this is for Allah as they stabbed victims .

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 19944

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

"This Is For Allah" - Six Killed In London Terrorist Rampage; Three Assailants Shot

"What I saw: injured pedestrians, first responders, armed police, people running north. What I heard of: stabbings, injured"

icnif77:

The latest:

  • Six people have been killed and at least 30 unjured in a van and stabbing terrorist attacks took place in London on Saturday night
  • The first attack took place on London Bridge followed shortly by an attack in Borough Market

  • Three attackers were shot dead. One was seen with canisters strapped to his body.
  • The Met Police say they believe all bridge attackers have been killed
  • The attacks started when a white van drove into Pedestrians on London Bridge around 10:30pm on Saturday.
  • A BBC eyewitness said 'They shouted 'this is is for Allah', as they stabbed indiscriminately'
  • 'I saw a man with a large blade': witnesses describe the attack after the van attack.
  • Theresa May and the Met Police have declared the attacks are being treated as acts of terror
  • Donald Trump told London "we are with you" after the terror attacks.
  • This is the third terror attack in the UK since March:
    • On 22 May, 22 people were killed and 116 injured in a suicide bombing at Manchester Arena.
    • On 22 March, six people died, including the attacker, and at least 50 people were injured in an attack near the Houses of Parliament.

* * *

Update 11:20 pm: 'They could be anywhere, this is out of control'

Speaking to the NYT, eyewitness Danny Farre said: “this is a complete nightmare, we are stuck here while there are maniacs on the loose and nobody is helping us. They could be anywhere, this is out of control.”

Les Hunter, 33, from Liverpool, who was visiting a friend in London, stepped out of a pub as the incident unfolded at 10.15 pm. "We saw people running out of Borough Market and straight after heard gunshots,” he said. “We went back into the pub and people starting running in telling us to get down and hide,” he recalled. “I ran up to the gents and hid, but when I looked out the window I saw a guy with blood all over his face and T-shirt.”?

* * *

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 1082

Shifu

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

My sympathy is for all those affected.

having grown up in a country that, within my life-time, was constantly on alert to terrorism, it worries me to see these times return.

 

a significant factor is young, usually unemployed, single men are the most susceptible to being sucked into this kind of action.

With nothing to lose, in their eyes they have most to gain, including notoriety and bettering the previous 'body count'

 

this kind of action is designed to be divisive, especially in multi-cultural countries.

 

there is never any excuse targeting soft-targets as these guys would not have the balls to face to a one-on-one fight.

 

on another note, it is not surprising that there is no comment from a certain new poster who 'claims' they were involved in a more direct fight with the ideology at play here 

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

7 dead 48 injured
3 arsehole s killed

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 1057

Governor

2
2
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

London mayor Sadiq Khan, in the article, said that terrorist attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city."

 

Khan told Londoners there is “no reason to be alarmed.”

 

I’m reassured that we are one of the safest global cities in the world, if not the safest global city, but we always evolve and review to make sure we’re as safe as we possibly can be

 

London has a neophyte mayor and everything is copacetic. Relax you have a Muslim mayor in the most tolerant multi-cultural city in the world. What could possibly go wrong? don't worry, because I assure you that everything's copacetic

 

 

 

Can you infidels in Britain feel the love? Can I get an Amen? Now lets all sing "allah will overcome and make sure all the women are outside the mosque"
 

retiredinchina:

I can't wait till they try this crap in New York, we do have some snowflake metrosexuals in New York who will run for cover, but we also have a lot of "yimmers" that would still be looking for a fight a day after the attack.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

He isn't saying anything else but 'we hit them and they hit us in return!'.

 

That isn't anything new if you look at 'West Bank&Gaza'.

 

''One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

when a god says "you are my chosen people", you will be ostracized by the whole world, jealousy, by every race, by every religion, forever, nothing new there, but since the Europeans out of guilt of not protecting and being tolerant of Jews threw the problem, Jewish settlers on the middle east in the 1940's, now the middle east is getting even by settling in Europe and tearing down their crap, like they think Israel did to them. KARMA. Like a tale of two cities, there is a twisted sick perverted system of ironic honour to history repeating itself. It's better than sleeping through "merchant in venice". Laughed at, spit on, and lose half your money, Israel teaches the story to every school kid.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

I didn't mean in historical view, but yeah that's it. 'Chosenites' will suffer.

 

Israelites today live like they are in the 'military camp in war zone'. Whole country. 'Defense' is their mantra.

However, all what is happening today in West-EU (suicide bombings and other BS) was already seen and experienced by Israel, i.e. recent history.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

yes, i hope the terrorist blow up every damn politician that tried to tell Israel they are the bad guys in middle east from their safe places in Europe while Israel lives in a perpetual state of war, it's the best revenge of all and I love every damn minute of it. They laughed at Israel and said Islam is peaceful and Israel has nothing to fear and is over exaggerating the threat and now the threat is in their schools and neighborhoods.

 

Sometimes there is a justice god watching over the world. Obama not doing anything to save Europe by not putting troops on the ground in Syria and Trump telling the Europeans to pay up for NATO, after 70 years of carrying Europe's water and laughing at America, the chickens have come home to roost, now if Trump would put some nuclear weapons in Germany and get all US troops off the European continent, i will be happier than a pig playing in the mud, peppa pig here i come.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

Posters at 'Zero' always question 'why terrorists usually attack regular people and never politicians'  ... LOL ... especially at notion of false-flag attacks.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

Shining_brow:

Ah... I love the ignorant racism that comes with having open forums.... /s

 

Firstly, Mayor Khan's words have been seriously taken out of context! AND somehow used to attack his religion... Too bad what you post doesn't actually link. Certainly the second one you put up seems to be a deliberate miscontextualisation to make him look bad... (The actual quote is this: "You will see an increased police presence today, including armed officers and uniformed officers. There is no reason to be alarmed by this," he said. Especially remembering that UK police traditionally did not carry firearms - however, violence (of many types and sources has slowly changed this in recent years)).

 

Secondly - Israel. Saying you're the 'chosen people' is fine... when you don't actually expect the rest of the world to bend over for you. And that's basically what happened in Israel... and Europe basically told the locals living there (Palestinians) to fuck off. That's not specifically a religious issue - it's poltical. Yes, Europe's 'guilt' stuffed up and made things worse.

 

Germany and nukes.... it's NOT up to Trump to make such a decision! He does NOT rule the world!!!  AND...w ho the hell are they going to use them against? Russia is NOT the big bad wolf the US has made them out to be for the last few decades. So, are they supposed to fire them off at.... refugees??? The German people do NOT want to be a nuclear weapons power... so, in that respect, the US can STFU!

 

And, as for Islam being a peaceful religion... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

You'd better hope Islam is peaceful! Otherwise, those 3 million are going to wipe you out!

 

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK, especially for women. (and, we're not talking about immigrants, we're talking about converts!) So - either there are a lot of angry violent women joining up... or maybe, just maybe, you are extremely ignorant about Islam, and haven't actually tried to talk to Muslims.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

i served in the legion 10 years before ambi and was fighting in Algeria, I know too much about Muslims, that's the problem, most people don't realize they are not tolerant and if they take over England, all the historical churches of other religions will be torned down or burned down in the middle of the night.

Tell me a muslim led country were I can go to Catholic mass on Christmas. Europe is over, they just don't know it yet.

 

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

if the germans don't want nuclear weapons, then tell america to withdraw all their troops, does america have to babysit germany for the next 100 years.

Germany killed 8 russians for each german soldier lost in world war 2, so why is america still protecting their ass.

I actually think america should close all embassies in europe and leave the continent completely until the new persian empire is finally in place and save some money and have one embassy in tehran for the whole empire, why wait for the inevitable, just bite the bullet and let it happen now, how many more infidels will have to die over the next generation, just surrender europe to iran and be done with it. I actually think if the Europeans save themselves it will be allying with Russia instead of America, because America is too politically correct to kill Muslims and do the dirty work to wipe out terroism before it wipes them out, but the Russian and the Chinese will commit genocide and collateral damage to wipe out Muslim terrorists, civilians be damned. Perhaps america can become a large Canada and let Nato bow to the Russian bear. what a screwed up world to even be thinking this way.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

Military or ex- see discussed problems different way than regular people. I am with Shining on this one.

 

It all comes to 'our M-16 against their suicide bombers ...', i.e. you can't win them with advanced tech.

While you cut Sadiq's statement you changed the real meaning what he really said! Another important fact is Sadiq is Londoner and most prominent UK Muslin ....

Here is new 'storm' brewing between UK & USA 'cause of Trumpf-a:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-05/uk-outraged-after-trump-repeatedly-slams-london-mayor-risking-diplomatic-scandal

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/04/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-safest-city-world-after-terror-attack

 

one of the safest cities in the world if not the most safest city in the world,

 

This guy will not be elected again if he keeps opening his mouth. Elite egos, gotta love their stupidity.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

Trump is feeding his flock of voters with Muslim hate and causing a distraction for the mayor so nobody questions his competence or leadership. Trump is actually doing him a big favor, but most people would not read between the lines.

6 years 37 weeks ago
Report Abuse

retiredinchina:

https://www.city-journal.org/html/run-hide-blame-trump-15240.html

my bad, somebody actually did read between the lines

6 years 37 weeks ago
Report Abuse

ambivalentmace:

just got back from London, the movie "the matrix" is what is happening in London now, soon you want be able to hide behind a trash bin to take a leak, cameras everywhere, kill switches for delivery vehicles in sensitive areas to stop stolen vehicle attacks, new jammers for wifi and cell use around private rich dignitaries properties. It is getting really nasty and privacy is completely gone. I don't see an answer that brings back  a stable London. It's over. If the wealthy bail out of London like they did Paris, Europe is finished.

6 years 36 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7201

Emperor

2
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
2

Florida is in the news now. Shootings... is it terrorist?  This afternoon it was Sidney.. Police standoff.. is it terrorist. One dead... seems he was not Muslim cos otherwise it would be a terror attack

 

Last week some Texan went on the rampage and killed 8 because his wife did not want to shag him. Or something like that.

 

Snowflake? Me? Yup.

 

I will tell you why.

 

These terror attacks in the UK are bringing people together. We have been here before. We will unite and defeat them. Anyone Brit with a FB account has seen more positive than negative messages shared. We are becoming united. The Muslim community are reporting these fuckers to the Police, the Tory Government are underfunding the Police. Theresa May blames social media, I blame Government foreign policy and lack of investment in job creation.

 

Snowflake yes, bigot no.

 

Trump seems to suggest we need guns in the UK. Trump suggests the Mayor of London is no good.

 

Let me say this to you all.

 

London was my home for 5 years. London is the most diverse city in the world. It is the number one world city with more nationalities than any other. The IRA bombed it when I lived there. And there was not any B52s bombing Ireland, or MOABS on Londenderry

 

I am 100% behind Sadiq Khan. He is a Londoner 100%.

 

Consider this. From Memory, the UK is committed to buying 137 F35Bs. Only $95 million each for the first 35, after that they go down to $80 million each.

 

All in the name of the war on terror.

 

A copper cost $40k a year

 

An informant costs about $5k a year, at a guess.

 

The Manchester Bomber had been reported to the Police. But the police had no money to investigate it would seem.

 

Consider this. There are some far right posters on here who could be considered a risk to innocent Muslims. Do we have a hotline to report them? Thinking Portland here. And Dylan Roof.

 

Technically, if we applied the same rules of encitment to violence to white power as we apply to the Muslim community, then Trump would be arrested.

 

And lets not forget, the radical right wing Islamists are right wing. Ultra right wing.

 

Give the snowflakes a chance.

 

I cant be arsed with this ever escalating right wing v right wing shit.

 

 

 

 

ScotsAlan:

$10 billion dollars worth of aircraft carrier and jet fighters are great vote winners. Vengenge strikes against the terror countries and all that. Makes great TV news. A few more coppers ( Muslim ones at that), being paid to pick up phones to answer reports of nutters who want to kill....that might work better. But not a vote winner.

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

Is that pre-big conflict sentiment? Nostradamus thingy ...

 

https://www.rt.com/news/391018-moscow-region-massacre-shooting-survivor/

 

A 21-year-old woman was the only survivor of the shooting horror that unfolded in a village in central Russia over the weekend. The suspect, who has now been arrested, killed nine people by shooting "directly at their heads."

6 years 38 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 1057

Governor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

So elect Obama and improve the racial divide in America.

How did that work out?   NO!!!!!!!!!

 

So elect a Muslim mayor and improve tolerance and avoid terrorism in London.

How did that work out?    NO!!!

 

Anybody see a pattern here, accommodation, appeasement, all is well, NO!!!

Report Abuse
6 years 38 weeks ago
 
Posts: 5928

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-victoria-stabbing-eyewitness-claims-15615300

 

another wonderful day in in the UK, don't forget your umbrella but no knives to defend yourself or speaking out about problems, this is against the law.

philbravery:

Yeah apparently he shouted out that while you bomb our counties more of this Shit will happen. ..oh and the standard Allah Akbar crap God help anybody that says those words out loud around me because it will probably be the last thing they say

5 years 8 weeks ago
Report Abuse

Stiggs:

He's got a point too. While western countries are making enemies in the Middle East, shit like this will keep happening.

 

I don't see that changing anytime soon, not until oil gets replaced with a better option.

5 years 8 weeks ago
Report Abuse
Report Abuse
5 years 8 weeks ago
 
Posts: 7450

Emperor

0
0
You must be a registered user to vote!
You must be a registered user to vote!
0

British counter-terrorism police are leading an investigation after a man stabbed three people at a central railway station in Manchester, England.

Two commuters - a man and woman in their 50s - were taken to hospital with knife injuries and a British Transport Police officer was stabbed in the shoulder.

An eyewitness to the attack, which occurred at Victoria Station around 9pm on New Year's Eve, said they heard the assailant shout "Allah" during the incident.

Seven police officers pounced on the alleged offender after tasering him and spraying him with capsicum spray. (9news)

View image on Twitter

ᔕᗩᗰ ᑕᒪᗩᑕK@Clack_Sam

Just been very close to the most terrifying thing. Man stabbed in Manchester Victoria station on tram platform. Feet from me, I was close to jumping on the tracks as attacker had long kitchen knife. Totally shaken. This is seriously messed up.

990

7:12 AM - Jan 1, 2019

940 people are talking about this

Twitter Ads info and privacy

Police said a man was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and remains in custody.

Assistant Chief Constable Rob Potts said the investigation was being led by counter terrorism police and officers were keeping an "open mind".

He said: "Tonight's events will have understandably worried people but I need to stress that the incident is not ongoing, a man is in custody and there is currently no intelligence to suggest that there is any wider threat at this time."

Sam Clack, a BBC producer, was on a platform at Manchester Victoria railway station waiting for a tram home when he witnessed the attack.

RELATED ARTICLESOnline dictionary reveals 2018’s biggest word search trendsSpacecraft sets records orbiting asteroid 110m km awayNew Year's Eve: The world welcomes 2019

The 38-year-old said: "I just heard the most blood-curdling scream and looked down the platform.

He said the older couple looked like they were arguing with another man dressed in black.

"It looked like they were having a fight but she was screaming in this blood curdling way,” he said.

"I saw police in high-vis come towards him.

"He came towards me. I looked down and saw he had a kitchen knife with a black handle with a good, 12-inch blade.

"It was just fear, pure fear."

Mr Clack said police officers used a Taser and capsicum spray before "six or seven" officers jumped on the man and held him down.

Counter Terrorism Police have been called in to assist with the investigation, but the suspect's motive has not been revealed. (9news)

He said he heard the suspect saying: "As long as you keep bombing other countries this sort of s*** is going to keep happening."

Mr Clack said both the man and the woman were conscious and were walked to a waiting ambulance for treatment to their injuries.

He said he also heard the attacker shouting "Allah" during the incident.

"He shouted it before, he shouted it during it - Allah," Mr Clack said.

As police appeared "within seconds" the man backed down the platform towards where Mr Clack was standing, worried he would be attacked.

Witness Sam Clack said he feared for his life when the man came rushing towards him with a large knife. (9news)

"I just had a feeling in the pit of my stomach," he said.

"Here's a man who's very agitated, angry, skittish. It appears he had already attacked someone. He had police coming towards him and he's coming towards me.

"I thought what I need to do is jump onto the tracks because next thing he's going to do is turn around and stab me. He's looking about, side to side and jumpy.

"At one point one of the police officers fired the Taser but it missed him.

"Then he got pepper sprayed and tasered and he went to the ground.

"It was scary. I have never been so scared in my life."

All three victims are in a serious condition and the police officer is receiving treatment for injuries to his shoulder.

A crime scene has been established and the station remains closed while police investigate.

Manchester's New Year's Eve celebrations went ahead as planned however people have been advised to make alternative arrangements as the station is closed.

Investigations are continuing. 

© AAP 2019

Report Abuse
5 years 8 weeks ago
 
Know the answer ?
Please or register to post answer.

Report Abuse

Security Code: * Enter the text diplayed in the box below
Image CAPTCHA
Enter the characters shown in the image.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <img> <br> <p> <u>
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • Textual smileys will be replaced with graphical ones.

More information about formatting options

Forward Question

Answer of the DayMORE >>
A: In my personal experience, teaching certificates have varied in releva
A:In my personal experience, teaching certificates have varied in relevance depending on the context and location. Here's a breakdown of each aspect:a) Getting the teaching job: Teaching certificates can certainly enhance your chances of securing a teaching position, especially in formal educational settings such as schools and language institutions. Many employers prefer candidates who have undergone specific training in pedagogy and instructional techniques, which these certificates often provide. However, other factors such as experience, references, and the demand for teachers in a particular area also play significant roles in the hiring process.b) Getting a higher salary than your uncertified competitors: In some cases, holding a teaching certificate can indeed lead to a higher salary compared to uncertified competitors. Many educational institutions have structured salary scales that take into account factors such as level of education, years of experience, and additional certifications. Holding a teaching certificate may place you in a higher salary bracket or make you eligible for certain salary incentives or bonuses. However, this can vary widely depending on the specific policies of the institution or organization.c) Getting promotions: Teaching certificates can be beneficial for career advancement and securing promotions within the field of education. They demonstrate a commitment to professional development and mastery of teaching skills, which are qualities that many employers value when considering candidates for leadership positions or administrative roles. Additionally, some promotions may require specific certifications or qualifications, making holding a teaching certificate essential for advancement in certain cases.Regarding which certificate yields better results, it largely depends on the specific requirements of the job market and the educational context in which you intend to work. For example:A Postgraduate Certificate in Education (PGCE) is often highly regarded in formal school settings and can be advantageous for those seeking positions in primary or secondary education.Montessori certification is valuable for individuals interested in working in Montessori schools or implementing Montessori principles in their teaching approach.A Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL) certificate is particularly relevant for those seeking to teach English to non-native speakers in international contexts or language schools.Ultimately, the best certificate for you will depend on your career goals, the specific requirements of the positions you're interested in, and the preferences of potential employers in your target job market. It's essential to research the requirements and preferences of employers in your desired field and tailor your qualifications accordingly. -- ruqaiya761