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Q: "Mandatory health checks", worth anything

A relative back home has just been diagnosed with a trivial condition that has little impact on life quality, but something that could develop when reaching old age. Harmless, but surgical intervention is recommended. 

 

My relative back home is retired, meaning old age is approaching, has never gone to the doc regularly and is in general good health. 

 

In China, people go to an annual check, despite this I find that many keel over due to cancer and other life threatening things. Does the annual health check have any value at all. E.g. my MIL has some small issues that were found during a health check, later confirmed by another check. It is something that in back home country would be considered as part of growing old but thanks to the annual health check it is now a diagnosis, thus the TCM sharks enter the stage and also lost of poor advice from others. 

 

Annual health checks. Good or bad (for the person, not for the health system) 

8 years 38 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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I think it all depends on the doctor and the hospital. In this country it is a lottery and you never really know what the hell you are getting. I know some people working in the health system here, most of them are very good having trained abroad and still try to do the right thing. An example is when my FIL was in hospital earlier this year and a friend of mine who works at that hospital, specialising in  pharmacology, came to check on the old man. He checked the medication and told us one of the items was not needed, by sheer coincidence it happened to be one of the more expensive items. Fil is ok now even though he never took that particular medication. However for every good, honest person in the health system there are many more who simply do not know what they are doing, at worst or at best, the medically proficient doctor who sees nothing wrong with racking up the cost for medicines whether they are needed or not.. As I said a lottery, you can never be sure whether the person who is diagnosing you is a doctor or a witch doctor. One small personal experience was when I went for the last medical in order to get my residents permit. The results showed my hearing to be fine, despite my right ear is almost completely useless; the urine test results were fine but I was never asked for a urine sample; and my eyesight was 100% despite the doctor being able to see the glasses I always wear. In this country money is king and when you mix that with a good dose of incompetence, laziness and good old fashioned not giving a f**k you wind up with what we all see here. Having said that I have nothing but praise for the dentist I have been to on two occasions, very professional, very cheap when compared to my home country and I have never had a problem withe work carried out.

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I think it all depends on the doctor and the hospital. In this country it is a lottery and you never really know what the hell you are getting. I know some people working in the health system here, most of them are very good having trained abroad and still try to do the right thing. An example is when my FIL was in hospital earlier this year and a friend of mine who works at that hospital, specialising in  pharmacology, came to check on the old man. He checked the medication and told us one of the items was not needed, by sheer coincidence it happened to be one of the more expensive items. Fil is ok now even though he never took that particular medication. However for every good, honest person in the health system there are many more who simply do not know what they are doing, at worst or at best, the medically proficient doctor who sees nothing wrong with racking up the cost for medicines whether they are needed or not.. As I said a lottery, you can never be sure whether the person who is diagnosing you is a doctor or a witch doctor. One small personal experience was when I went for the last medical in order to get my residents permit. The results showed my hearing to be fine, despite my right ear is almost completely useless; the urine test results were fine but I was never asked for a urine sample; and my eyesight was 100% despite the doctor being able to see the glasses I always wear. In this country money is king and when you mix that with a good dose of incompetence, laziness and good old fashioned not giving a f**k you wind up with what we all see here. Having said that I have nothing but praise for the dentist I have been to on two occasions, very professional, very cheap when compared to my home country and I have never had a problem withe work carried out.

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Annual health checks can be a good thing : detecting a cancer early, before it grows beyond hope. There are other things like diabetes, etc. that health check can catch. However, with the number of undiagnosed diabetes and cancer in China, I think something went wrong somewhere.

 

For cancers early detection, annual checks is an expensive overkill. A smarter (and less expensive) way is to do specific checks only on the people likely to be at risk. For example, breast checks in women after 30 years old. The examination is quick, because it's focused on one thing, and it allows to find a cancer when it's still mostly harmless. Same thing for prostate cancer, respiratory problems (ie. you would check on miners and smockers ,often, but not very often on non-smocking farmers).

Scandinavian:

statistically 30 is too early to start squashing boobs :) 

 

however, you are right, but statistics don't work in China. Chinese Bodies of Government are different and they doctor statistics to fit their own needs. 

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I used to think 30 is too early for boobs cancer... A few year ago, a Vietnamese friend, in her late 20, was diagnosed with that cancer. Despite going to Australia to have the best help she could possibly, despite being a courageous girl with the will power of The Hulk in Iron Man suit, she died last year, it was just too late. The check is so simple, so cheap, yet it allows to avoid those terrible personal dramas : boob checks at 30 for everyone, young moms should not die so horribly.

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I have found it common in now 3 countries including China that when you go to the local GP you need to know what you want. 

ie; If you have and annual health check and you don't ask for anything specific such as a diabetic check or a heart echo check they won't put it on the list of things to be checked.

The patient needs to be pro active

or a hypochondriac

 

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