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Q: Mandatory Retirement Age of 65, Will it change to 68 soon in China?

 Age Discrimination of 65 caused me to loose my job in an international school in Shanghai. The PSB will not issue a foreign expert certificate to anyone close to 65. Will this dreadful discriminatory practice ever end in Shanghai or other Chinese cities?

11 years 29 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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This will probably be the case in China for many years to come.  There is talk about extending the retirement age to 68, but they have been talking about that for years and nothing official has happened yet.

 

As a teacher, you might want to look at other countries that have less strict rules.  I think Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam have no upper age range.  But I could be wrong about that.

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I'm surprised that a cosmopolitan city like Shanghai would enforce a mandatory retirement age for foreigners given the worldly nature of the city.  But that's beside the point, I guess.

 

I read that the statutory retirement age for Chinese males is 60 and 50- 55 for females.  [See Wikipedia.]  Of course, that particular piece of legislation has been on the books for about 60 years, when the average lifespan 60 years ago was lower than it is today in China.  People are living longer nowadays and some just may want to work past the mandatory retirement age, but they may be disallowed or or they may continue to work off the books.

 

There is much anecdotal evidence floating about that suggests that schools will hire people whose age is beyond the statutory retirement age.  It depends on the city, province, and the amount of influence (guanxi)  a school has with the authorities.

 

In my (second tier) city of choice, I personally know at least a dozen foreign

"senior citizens" who work as school teachers at international schools/departments, universities or language training centres.  One man is over 70 years old and he keeps plodding along... Of course, having a certain continuity, i.e. work visa after work visa over the years, does help when it comes to the annual renewal of said visa.

 

I wouldn't leave China for uncharted waters at your age.  Stay put and look around unless you're an adventurer and don't really care about settling down in one place...

 

In my personal case, I just turned 61 and am ready for a visa renewal.  I'm pretty sure my school will 'protect' me due to their influence with the foreign expert bureau (or whatever they're called) and the local PSB.

 

I plan to marry a Chinese national this year and that should qualify me for a spousal or family visa, which will allow me to live in China, but not legally work.  Oh, well.  Its what I want anyway.  To live in China with the woman I love.

 

So, if you have no overriding and compelling reason to stay in China, then move to another Asian country... but why Asia?  Why not anywhere else in the world?  Or even home?

 

But if you are dead set on making China your permanent home for the duration, then look around and forget about packing it in and find the channels that will allow you to stay and work.

 

Nothing is impossible.  (Adidas}...  Anything is possible.  (Li-Ning}... in China.

 

Good luck!

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We are looking at facts, and getting confused looking at them.  there is no mandatory retirement age of 65 in China.  In fact. for women is 50 years, and for men is 60 years of age. 

What does exist is the fact that in order to work in China, you MUST be covered by health insurance, and at age 65 insurance companies will not cover you anymore, so you can no longer work, unless you get your own health insurance, and Medicare and Medicaid do not work, since they know it will not cover you here.

 

So, it is not a matter of retirement age, but one of insurance cover.  At least in Nanning, if you provide your own insurance cover, you can continue working pass age 65.  I do know one fellow age 87 who still teaches English at a local school.

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I was told that there are insurance companies in Nanjing that will provide insurance coverage.  Just don't know their company names.

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