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Q: My good deed this year. Can we make a list of good schools for new China comers?

I was surfing the web last night and read countless pages of horror stories from foreign teachers.  Granted, some maybe deserved what happened, but still.  It is enough to scare possible new comers from coming to China.  We have all read those never ending lists of schools to avoid, but I have never read a list of schools that should be considered.  I think that would help potential new comers much more than "avoid at all costs" lists.  Schools where we have had good relations with the leaders, students, and faculty.  Where we were not cheated and forced to fight for what was promised in a contract.  I'll start.  I've worked at a few schools here, including, privates, middle schools, government companies that train their employees in English,  and universities.  I have two good experiences. 1. The "Advanced Training Center for Oil Workers" in Daqing, also called Gao Pei.  Pay was on time, great staff, eager learners, never had an issue.  2. "Heilongjiang Agriculture University", also called BaYi University in Daqing.   Wonderful staff, never a hassle with pay.  Everything that was promised in my contract has been delivered and then some.  Great working hours, and long winter and summer vacations paid..

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Great idea you got there.

University of Science & Technology of China (USTC), Hefei Campus

Good experience : I was very free in the way I wanted to teach, I was even encouraged to introduce Western teaching approach (open exams, interactive class). Students were good by Chinese standard, 33% good & motivated, 33% good & work-shy, 33% tourists, 1% astounding. I always been paid on time, no trust problems. Accommodation fairly basic by Chinese standard, always something that didn't work ^^ Great stadium and nice folks there.

Suzhou School of Software Engineering

Same as above, but accommodation is good by Chinese standard. Week-end classes, evening classes are routine. Students for night classes and week-end class were WTF, ie. huge holes in their training and bad attitude. Regular students were like in Hefei.

In both case, pay is standard pay for a Chinese lecturer, but you can negotiate perks.

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I concur with above post, however I'll be short with recommendations:

 

Primary School No. 1, Fukang, Xinjiang. (how do you highlight the title?)

School follows the Contract to the letter. I assume School was warned, I'll resign after 2nd Contract disrespect. High pay with low working hours, but slim chances for 'moonlighting'.

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I think its a wonderful idea. Good Job!

 

I know most will probably disagree with me as I know many teachers feel its not the best place, But I have never been a public school kinda guy. My favourite place was

 

Web International English in Guangzhou.

Not for everyone as there was a steady cycle of teachers coming and going, but if you fit in, you stayed for years. High pay by chinese teaching standards, fair hours. Once you learned how to teach their particular classes you had zero prep time. Can make lots of friends as your teaching people your age. Good inroads to companies and further development. They didnt screw around with teachers, what was said in your contract is what you will get. Most importantly, in my opinion they were incredibly fair. If you were good and helped them, they would bend over backwards to help you. If you werent as good, then you couldnt expect special privileges.

 

My favorite time ever to teach in China. Id go back in a second if I were to teach again.

 

Be aware that WEB has centers in most cities and they are not all the same, so you could be treated differently, although I had worked very shortly with the WEB in Chongqing and had a wonderful experience with them as well.

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  I worked with Websters in Liuzhou and Beihai on a number of contracts over the years and they treated me well. Hearing some of the horror stories on here I think i've been very lucky. After them I tried EF and it was ok, then Better English which sucked elephant balls.

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Owen Foreign Language School Kunming

Good salary, paid on time. laid back atmosphere, great facilities. The only drawback is you'll be working weekends...

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Great idea, I hope it will be done in an organized way, not only as a post on this forum. Definitely, future teachers and the veterans will be very much help with positive references. 

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Gov Public School are great AND SAFER

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Yibin Vocational and Technical College in Sichuan.  I was sent to this school by a recruiter. I think your goal is splendid. Much better than trying to list the bad ones.  I have noticed that sometimes it may be the new FTs that set themselves up for a problem.  We have learned much about the culture here. I have also learned that each school presents a different set of problems for different reasons. Public schools are good because the highest pay per hour comes from these schools. On the other hand you must be very good with your leadership skills as well as being in front of 50 to 80 students whose primary goals may not include English.

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Ningbo Foreign Language School - far from the city and accommodation is on campus...but no other complaints whatsoever! smiley

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Paul, this is a good thought and I would like to contribute based upon my years of experience around here.

 

I am going to start with Southern China.

 

Guangzhou

 

Sun Yat-Sen University, the School of Engineering and the School of Medicine. Sun Yat-Sen University is probably the best university in GZ and one of the best in the country.  The students are bright, innovative; you will be paid on time, the campus is great; the apartments are large if not a little old and the FAO's take care of the FT's.

 

You will be expected to prepare syllabi and lesson plans and submit them and they will be returned with corrections and changes.

 

Pay is standard university rates but there is oogles of extra work in the faculties, i.e., editing, private tutorials as well as outside work.

 

They only hire from the Big 5 countries and a master's degree is preferred.  Also discounts on study at the university.

 

 

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Beijing

 

This is not one that commonly shows up on the radar but if you  have  a science background, and a Master's degree,as I do, it's a great place to hang for a few years:

 

The Chinese Academy of Sciences

 

They recruit intermittently as the FT's that they hire tend to remain with them for years and years.

 

There is no campus, just the huge Academy of Sciences building.  Housing is off-campus and the Academy provides a subsidy that allows for a proper but not grand apartment in Beijing.

 

You will be most likely assigned one-to-one to some of the junior academicians.  I did everything from correcting research papers, to doing mock question-and-answer series, to giving private English lessons on direct topics.

 

You only work in the later afternoons Mondays-to-Fridays but the connections / relations that I made there have carried me through to this very day.  I was assigned a team of junior molecular biologists. 

 

Be warned, however -- there is considerable prep and it is not backpack dress.  I wore a two piece blue suit, black pumps, and a string of pearls, hair drawn back, etc., etc.

 

The jump-off point is also a Master's degree, Big 5 citizenship and verifiable references.

 

It was one of the most professional jobs that I had in China.

 

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Two thumbs up for Starbugs English Academy in Shanghai.  You can sign on as part or full time, lessons already planned.  No lying or such bullshit (as I've been victim to in Korea many years past, and I hear happens here as well).

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Does anyone know of any good schools / centres in shenzhen?

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