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Q: My recruiter says It´s ok to work on Business visa..?

I am currently doing research to go to China to teach English. What I have read is that on a business visa you cannot work legally, you have to get a Z visa for that. Well, my recruiter told me that the business visa that the school has arranged for me is good for one year and that I can work legally. Does that sound right to any of you??

10 years 31 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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No. You cannot work in China on a F visa.

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That is not correct.  You will be working illegally in China. Then again for a Mexican to do something like that won't be anything new.

I work with a British girl in this small town who is also on a Business Visa.  Once she got here, her school gave her a curfew, told her that she could only have friends they approved of, and she had to ask for permission to go anywhere.  The reason they gave her was that she is on the wrong visa and they have to protect her.

If you get caught, you will be fined and then deported without being able to return to China for 10 years. Get a proper visa.

You've been warmed.  I am Mexican myself and have a proper Z visa.  However, I worked in an English department at an American high school for four year before coming here so it was easier to get a Z visa.

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i wonder that it is possible for them to get a 1 year F visa with unlimited stay or do they send you every 30 days to hk on your own cost? haha

 

dont work on a F visa they will screw you over and can do whatever they want with you, also they will threaten you once you are there

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Your employer said it is OK to work with F, butt.....both, you and School are in violation of Chinese Law.

Your employer is most likely not authorized to hire Foreign teachers, so they cannot sponsor your Z visa.

 

You should get new employer, authorized to hire FT (and sponsor Z visa).

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The recruiter is lying to you! Don't do it. They don't care about you and whether you get busted and banned from returning to China. China is getting more serious about illegal foreign workers so don't do anything illegal. You can easily find a more legit school if you spend a bit longer doing research.

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The recruiter is lying to you! Don't do it. They don't care about you and whether you get busted and banned from returning to China. China is getting more serious about illegal foreign workers so don't do anything illegal. You can easily find a more legit school if you spend a bit longer doing research.

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Your recruiter is trying to get you to work for a bottom-of-the-barrel, scumbag company so that s/he can cash a fat check from that company for bagging them another FT. Does that claim even make sense? Why would China offer work visas and business visas, if you could just use a business visa for a work visa function? Why wouldn't they put that on their embassy website with their business visa description (Business Visa, 'oh yeah, and if you don't feel like giving your employees work visas, this works, too'). You can be deported if caught working on a Business visa, and, if your scumbag employer (any employer who insists on having you work illegally for them is, ultimately a scumbag) screws you over, you have no recourse to appeal to the law.

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Your recruiter is trying to get you to work for a bottom-of-the-barrel, scumbag company so that s/he can cash a fat check from that company for bagging them another FT. Does that claim even make sense? Why would China offer work visas and business visas, if you could just use a business visa for a work visa function? Why wouldn't they put that on their embassy website with their business visa description (Business Visa, 'oh yeah, and if you don't feel like giving your employees work visas, this works, too'). You can be deported if caught working on a Business visa, and, if your scumbag employer (any employer who insists on having you work illegally for them is, ultimately a scumbag) screws you over, you have no recourse to appeal to the law.

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First of all, when dealing with recruiters (which is not such a good idea anyway), assume that they are lying unless you have absolute proof that what they say is true. That doesn't just apply to this situation. It is a very common experience for many people working in China. Recruiters here look after themselves and nobody else. Secondly, follow the other posters' advice on this one and look for alternative employment that can offer a 'Z' visa. There are more than sufficient teaching opportunities in China that offer the legal option so why go down the illegal route? Later, you can expect to be shafted on a number of contractual issues and the sad thing is, by taking up such an offer, you only have yourself to blame.

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Absolutely not ok. You could get into big trouble.

Also, recruiters promise anything. They will always be fine [as long as they made a 'sale'] and face no consequences when they steer you wrong.

Don't do it!

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Recruiters sound like bad news, but I also don't understand how a Mexican could be considered an English teacher. Is there a link between the two?

juanisaac:

Why not?  If you know a language well, and can teach a language well, why can't you be a teacher of that language? In high school my German teacher was an American and he spoke German really well.  How did I know that?  When my school was visited by German guests they were able to understand him really well.

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well one thing to understand someone well, another thing is to speak a language the right way and even can teach it the right way.

 

but i agree you dont have to be native to teach a language

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well...it ain't frown

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He's full of sh@t. Call him out on it and find a new school and recruiter who won't jerk you around. Recruiters get money for finding teachers. They don't care if you end up in jail or not. 

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I think u wanna work here to get some do re mi in your pocket?  I'll tell u a better way,,, bring fkn Frozen Burittos !!  I have searched everywhere, alas !!  cool

I used to live on those fuckers in college...

GuilinRaf:

Add me to the list!!!!

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It's perfectly okay to work on a business (F) visa if you want to be arrested, have your money confiscated, and receive a 5-10 year ban from the People's Republic of China.

 

If you want to stay, nothing but a Z is acceptable.

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I believe your recruiter is fibbing to you.

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Your recruiter is dodgy. Have nothing more to do with him/her.

 

Rachel, what you're saying is logically correct, but... in at least one country I know of it used to be possible. You could complete a year contract on two six-month business visas, legally. 

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