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Q: Native English Speaker failing to get job
What prospects are there fro a native english speaker not from Australia, UK, USA, South Africa, Canada or new zealand? Do they realise there are several other countries that speak english? Especially in Africa?
2 years 42 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
No, you don't have a chance, IMO. Why?
Whole Working permit application was moved online i.e. no more quanxi, through an established questionnaire and if applicant doesn't hold the passport from big 5 native English speaking countries, application will be rejected. It is that simple!
I was sitting together with an employer in June, 2017, as novelty of the Labor law was implemented. Employer filled up online application for my employment and as soon as he entered my non-native English country of origin/passport, website went blank.
I agree with Sorrel above, you'll be better off applying for an English teaching job elsewhere.
Good luck!
you will be employed if the company thinks you are cheap enough or look for work away from larger cities where people from anglophone countries are less likely to want to work.
Chinese companies (in my experience) go for the cheap option regardless of ability.
you would be better looking for work in Korea, Japan or any other country.
less hassle in the long-run.
People from most African countries are not deemed to be 'native English speakers' and may speak English with an accent that Chinese employers do not deem 'desirable'
now cue the accusations of my reply being 'racist' 
Stiggs:
From what I understand places like Korea and Japan have the same rules regarding native English speakers and are a lot stricter in their enforcement of the rules. That's not to say there aren't other possibilities out there, I'm sure there are if you look around.
Sorry TakuMidzi, your prospects are not very good in China unless you're willing to work illegally and I really wouldn't recommend that.
icnif77:
It's PIA for non-native English passport holder to even land an interview anywhere I've tried.
S. Asia, EU, Middle East there are no chances by applying online. Japan and S. Korea both demand native English speaker right at the job's advert.
There are chances in Turkey-stan, but you'll work for the way below standard pay without any benefits and respected contract.
I was applying in Turkey on site, not online and all higher ranking schools' job adverts require native English passport holder for the English teaching position. It is the law in Turkey only native English passport holders qualify for the legal working permit like everywhere else.
I am thinking, applying for the English teaching job as a non-native English passport holder is no different than applying for the flying position at NASA ...
There is also a thingy, native English passport holders don't/can't have a clue about it ... he he.
No, you don't have a chance, IMO. Why?
Whole Working permit application was moved online i.e. no more quanxi, through an established questionnaire and if applicant doesn't hold the passport from big 5 native English speaking countries, application will be rejected. It is that simple!
I was sitting together with an employer in June, 2017, as novelty of the Labor law was implemented. Employer filled up online application for my employment and as soon as he entered my non-native English country of origin/passport, website went blank.
I agree with Sorrel above, you'll be better off applying for an English teaching job elsewhere.
Good luck!
Possibly not. As long as your country is not deemed/catogrized as a Native English speaking country.
Or if you obtained your degree from a native country...
How about someone that hold a UK passport but not native?
Stiggs:
As long as you can find someone to employ you I don't see any reason why not. There's no accent test or anything like that.
icnif77:
There is a Cofid test, I've heard, doesn't matter the accent ... 
Some 2-years ago, I had to take over the class from British teacher in Istanbul. He was native English and all, butT ... students complained they don't understand his accent.
Boss told me that the same students demanded native English speaker ... at the start of the course.
You can do so much better than China, don't let anyone tell you otherwise..
I worked over there off and on for 10 years, during my 13 years away from the U.S., other years were spent in different parts of Asia.
Seeing the evolution of acceptance and independence in China has been an honor, but IMO they are nowhere near being comfortable to be around for too long.
I've worked with teachers from Russia, Pakistan, the UK, the U.S. and South Africa.
Rules and regulations are changed all the time with no regard for anyone; they're making it more and more difficult/competitve for anyone to be there, much less want to work there. There are too many hoops to jump (for everyone) and then you finally get everything in order and they think they own you.
Btw, because the rules and regs do change so much, the teachers from Pakistan and Russia, who felt safe and secure in their jobs, were all let go by the end of the school year. Again, rules changed and no one cared except the folks who uprooted their lives to be there.
The last two jobs I held in China, I left.
The 1st one, in Beijing, at a school for South Koreans only, I and several other foreign teachers resigned because a white American man was found to be gay and told he had to leave.
The 2nd one, also in Beijing, I resigned when I found the head of the foreign teachers, a Pakistani looking gay dude from the U.K. turned out to be a pedophile. The head of the Chinese department did not care-the guy had worked there for 7 years already..and is probably still there..Also, when I was there, a young black woman from the U.K., a truly beautiful soul, was always called names when out and about...how did she know? She understood/spoke/had studied Chinese for many years..
I was grateful for not understanding them and grateful to have gotten out of there intact.
Do your best to hang in there and believe that things happen for a reason..
I am from Nigeria and a seasoned Teacher of English. I have a BBA and an MA in English. I also have a TEFL certificate from World TESOL Academy. Even with all these, I have not gotten a single yes to my over 200 online applications for a teaching Job in China, Japan and Malaysia in the past one month. It is as depressing as it is disappointing. They keep saying you must be a native speaker. For God's sake, is English all about accent? So if I just go rambling in a native tongue and the student does not get a grasp of the grammar of the language, does that make any damn sense? I'm so damn pissed!
Whoever knows anyone who is in need of a qualified teacher and who is not a native-speaker crazy, please , contact me ...
icnif77:
It is a TOS violation to post contact details in public, thread or reply! Anybody wants to contact you can do so over PM, butT ...
1. Nobody will contact you, because you aren't a native English speaker/passport holder/teacher, which is the Law-of-the-Land for all three listed countries.
2. In case, you will receive an offer over PM, don't accept it!
Such an offer will turn into scam and you'll be required to leave the country as soon as the proper authorities, i.e. cops find out about your presence in the city.
It is impossible to secure LEGAL work as an English teacher in China to a non-native English passport holder.
3. You didn't receive any offers (and I doubt, you will!) for several reasons. One and the main reason is:
"It is against the Chinese Labor law (regulations novelty from June, 2017) to secure LEGAL English teaching work to a non-native English passport holder as yourself."
Only passport holders from UK, Ireland (I think ..!), USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa are entitled to get Working permit for work as an English teachers in China.
Anybody on Internet uses web's search engines?
You can get clear confirmation of my statement through any web search engine. Enter into search slot "Requirements for an English teaching job in China".
Another reason for not receiving replies comes to mind is ... Why do you think, most Chinese job adverts require applicant's photo posted either at application or pinned at your CV?
Clue no. 1: Did you ever hear, tanned Han farmer is 2nd grade citizen in China ...?
Clue no. 2: Why do you think, Chinese walk with an open umbrellas at the sunny weather or why Chinese immediately cover the windows at the first visible sun ray?
As the posters at this thread suggest, you'll be better off in any other country than in China.
Good luck!
Strange: I am from Israel, and I was working in Patison before (10 years ago, though), just your payment will be quite less (ok, not 100/hr but 80/hr).
This, as long as you maintain native English accent (I was in England and USA long time as a kid...) and have at least some kind of degree (or very high matriculation exam skill, >90 in highest level like I have) then it should still not be a problem.
Just let you know, teaching English for kids is much different, and mainly 80% of the time is not really teaching, but maintaining the class flow (the kids to sit and not talk with each other). The younger the kids, the more difficult is to maintain it (I did it for 5th grade and was ok, though).
icnif77:
Where is Patison?
Pattison is the name of an avenue in Philly ..., mind you, he he.
That isn't the city in China ...
Please, enlighten us on the point of yer reply beside written show-off-ing on how good non-accented English teacher you are ...!
We're all anonymous here ...or in other words, it is impossible to get grasp of yer English speaking accent over the written reply ... at eChina-Tities, ... me being dyslectic from time to time.
We must all rely on your English written statement ,which ... in turn can be the same as mine "I own a Rolls Royce .." ... show-off-ing ...
