icnif77:

more:

http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017-03-09/officials-cia-knew-vault7-leak-was-coming-focus-turns-to-contractors-as-the-source-of-it/

philbravery:

Alexa shutting down over CIA question will fire up the conspiracy theorist in all of us Read more at http://pickle.nine.com.au/2017/03/10/11/47/alexa-shutting-down-over-cia-question-will-fire-up-the-conspiracy-theorist-in-all-of-us#RGisJ71vWpWBpKFg.99

Shining_brow:

Doesn't matter which manufacturer - if you're under the bomb when it goes off...

earthizen:

Go ask the Jews, Japanese, and Chinese if it matters.

philbravery:

The only one of those you mentioned that suffered from an atomic bomb was Japan. The Jews and the Chinese were murdered by more traditional means.

earthizen:

Those sufferings would continue should Hitler get the bombs and it is highly doubtful  many of the Jews and Chinese of today would exist.

philbravery:

The US dropped more than 26,000 bombs in 2016 — here is where they went The Fiscal Times Rob Garver, The Fiscal Times Jan. 6, 2017, 8:24 PM 10,442 Air Force via U.S. Air Force For a nation that isn't officially at war against another nation, the United States dropped an awful lot of bombs on a pretty large number of countries last year, according to research by Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and research associate Jennifer Wilson. According to their calculations, based on data released by the Pentagon as well as information collected by think tanks and news organizations, the U.S. dropped some 26,171 bombs across all its weapons platforms, on targets in seven different countries. The biggest recipients were Syria (12,192) and Iraq (12,095), where the U.S. is participating in the effort to destroy the terror group ISIS, which still controls parts of both countries. Next on the list was Afghanistan where, despite having pulled out the vast majority of combat troops years ago, the U.S. saw the need to drop 1,337 bombs. The only other country in triple digits was Libya, which was hit with 496. Smaller targets included Yemen (34), Somalia (14) and Pakistan (3). The total number of bombs dropped was up 3,027 over the previous year, they found. Writing on his blog, Zenko admits, "This estimate is undoubtedly low, considering reliable data is only available for airstrikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya, and a single 'strike,' according to the Pentagon's definition, can involve multiple bombs or munitions." Zenko added, "As President Obama enters the final weeks of his presidency, there will be ample assessments of his foreign military approach, which has focused on reducing U.S. ground combat troops (with the notable exception of the Afghanistan surge), supporting local security partners, and authorizing the expansive use of air power. Whether this strategy 'works'-i.e. reduces the threat posed by extremists operating from those countries and improves overall security and governance on the ground-is highly contested. Yet, for better or worse, these are the central [tenets] of the Obama doctrine."

philbravery:

Dead or maimed is the same whether your a Jew .Arab.Chinese or Kalothumpian

earthizen:

Dead or maimed, regardless of nationality terrorists are terrorists. The targets of those bombs were terrorists.  Would you prefer them to visit and bomb your country or go bomb them where they are?

philbravery:

So you are saying thst the civilian death toll is of no consequence as long as you destroy the bad guys. Wow Nuke two cities and your on a winner

earthizen:

No. Do you prefer those civilian deaths be in your country, you included, from  terrorist attacks, or the country where the terrorists are? 

earthizen:

'Wow Nuke two cities and your on a winner'  You prefer WW II to continue,  Hitler to continue putting Jews into gas chambers until there are none left, and Japan to keep occupying china, creating massacres after massacres? 

philbravery:

You contradict yourself. ..No but as long as it is a County that that has Terrorists. The quick and easy way out. So by your reasoning the USA should Nuke itself?.

earthizen:

No contradition here. USA did not nuke Syria, Somalia...etc. in its attempt to wipe out the terrorists in these countries, so your logic of nuking itself doesn't stand. Any developed country would apprehend terrorists found on their soil, USA is no exception.

philbravery:

Ok ...Saudi Arabia is a big allie of the US but it funds and produces Terrorists, so why don't the US bomb Saudi into the dust ? (Sand)

earthizen:

The bombs target terrorists directly, not those sponsoring them apparently.  Many possible reasons, to keep using lethal force to a minimum by using more civilized means. If the sponsor of terrorists is a country, more civilized means would be diplomatic negotiations, escalating to war as a final solution. Most developed countries try not to declare war on another country, one obvious   reason being massive loss of civilian lives, another being the possibility of escatating into WW III.

philbravery:

You keep changing your position . First you favor mass killing as long as it is done by the USA then you claim selective strikes. FFS make up your mind

earthizen:

Framing doesn't work. Quote me where I said I favored mass killing. I asked you to choose between two scenarios, both involved mass killing in WW II. Where did you get the idea I favored mass killing? 

philbravery:

I don't need to frame you . You hang yourself throughout the thread

earthizen:

So quote me,  substantiate your accusation with facts.

philbravery:

As in Gorege Orwell's book ? Or Wham's first record release?

philbravery:

Actually that story "on the beach " is pretty scary to think about in this day and age