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Q: Organ thiefs: How to stop them?
This just sickens me Got this from a Australian news site Family members found the boy covered in blood some three to four hours after he went missing while playing outside, according to a television report posted online on Tuesday. The child's eyes were found nearby but the corneas were missing, reports said, implying that an organ trafficker was behind the harrowing attack. Police offered a 100,000 yuan ($A17,818) reward for information leading to the arrest of the sole suspect, who they said was a woman. "He had blood all over his face. His eyelids were turned inside out. And inside, his eyeballs were not there," his father told Shanxi Television. Its report showed the heavily-bandaged boy being taken from an operating theatre and placed in a hospital bed, writhing in agony as family members stood at his bedside weeping. A boy lies on his hospital bed with his eyes covered with bandages in a hospital in Taiyuan, China. A boy lies on his hospital bed with his eyes covered with bandages in a hospital in Taiyuan, China. The boy was drugged and "lost consciousness" before the attacker removed his eyes, state broadcaster China Central Television (CCTV) said on its account on Sina Weibo, China's version of Twitter. Internet users were outraged by the attack on the boy - who had a cleft palate - in Fenxi, in the northern province of Shanxi on Monday. "This is extraordinarily vicious," said one Sina Weibo user. "How and why could someone be so cruel?" "A truly tragic boy," said another poster. About 300,000 patients in China need transplants each year, but only about 10,000 people can get them because of a lack of donors, state media said. Seven people were jailed last year when a teenager sold a kidney for an illicit transplant operation and used the proceeds to buy an iPhone and iPad. The boy's eyes were gouged out in a gruesome attack that may have been carried out by a ruthless organ trafficker. The boy's eyes were gouged out in a gruesome attack that may have been carried out by a ruthless organ trafficker. Child organs are usually more expensive on the black market, an organ trafficker told Sina internet news portal in 2010, as "most people think the younger the donor is, the better the quality of organs".
10 years 33 weeks ago in Health & Safety - China
It's extremely sick . they should be tortured in public before execution. any and all .
I just read it yesterday evening on Shanghai daily. I am more and more affraid to send myu son here to kindergarden. So many sh1t happens nowe to childrens here :(
One of my wifes friends went missing about half a year ago. The initial response from the police was that he had probably been killed. They got that conclusion based on the fact that he is a young man (late 20ies) and was on his way home from a KTV visit late at night. It later turned out that he had fallen in some water and drowned, but it is thought provoking that the initial guess is organ harvesting.
This poor boys life is ruined because some rich bastard has a minor eye condition. Who the hell wants "spare parts" that have been gotten by cutting people up on the street. I mean, not only the obvious moral issue here, but the medical challenge of using organs harvested in a dirty enviroment.
To stop them? Give the punishment to those who receive such organs.Of course the organ harvesters still need to be punished, but if demand is lowered that would help too. Having to carry the evidence might be difficult in such cases as this country has so poor bookkeeping in the hospitals
NEVER LEAVE YOUR KIDS UNATTENDED IN CHINA!!!!!!!
I always carried weapons with me just in case. I'm big on self-defense, even if a country such as China doesn't allow it. When it comes down to it, it's your life or the enemy's life. Seriously, I highly recommend that you pack heat in China.
Let me expound on this a little bit.
China has a reputation for organ thievery for a reason. It's a lucrative market. In China, human trafficking is everywhere. Some of the massage girls you meet are trafficked, and they aren't going to tell you that right up. Many children -- boys especially -- are often kidnapped and sold to adoption mills to keep profits up. The CCP runs that adoption kidnapping ring, and no adoptions can be made without approval from the CCP.
If you have to raise your children in China, I strongly suggest keeping an eye on them at all times. Teach them self-defense as well for when they grow up, and give them a weapon if need be. Your kids lives are more important than some random scumbag's.
You have to teach awareness that's the first step....when a tragedy like this occurs..
Shoot. I had an answer harmonized here with the standard argumentation that blah blah blah "We understand the topic may be perfectly valid outside of China, but allowing such conversations would put our website at risk of being taken down by local authorities." but what other countries have organ theft as something that comes up in the media frequently. I would not be surprised if it happens in a lot of places, just not so much as it does here.
stop them ? hmmm.... on a practical level would be impossible to stop. could check out the Old Testament.
Matthew 5:38
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'
Exodus 21:25
burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Leviticus 24:20
fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury.
Deuteronomy 19:21
Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.
find some old tuff-ass prison con and offer him reduced sentence for doing to this perp what she did to the boy. will it fix this boy? no. will it make the next 'harvester' think twice? maybe.
Scandinavian:
if you quote that book shouldn't you already believe that the guilty will suffer in hell as punishment ? and isn't seeking earthly revenge going against a lot of the other pages in that same book ?
diverdude1:
Yes, but no one knows for sure about life after death, so, many humans do seek earthly revenge. Is it wrong to do so? Probably. But so many things are so fkd up, what are we going to do? Just ask her nicely not to gouge the eyes out of a child and we both go on our way ? Yes, eye for eye goes against the teachings of Christ. It was a belief/doctrine (earthly revenge) that was totally challenged in the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament when it was preached 'to turn the other cheek'.
I'm not advocating eye for eye, but must admit sometimes I want to.
GuilinRaf:
Actually. "eye for eye" was a step UP in civilization. It was among the first concepts for punishment being equal to the crime. Before those times, any crime was punished by death. Steal food? Death. Steal women? Death. Steal crops? Death.
Naturally, it had its' time and place. Today, well, we have to work hard to not demand that same kind of retribution, but historically speaking, it was not as barbaric as it seems today.
Now, in regards to the person that did this to this poor kid, there is no punishment severe enough to adequately punish her for her horrid, barbaric act.
And, just to be perfectly clear: This is NOT limited to China........
"If they had a heart they would stop" but seriously these types of people should be treated like pedophiles', murder's and rapists. It's a terrible crime and should be executed. With extreme punishment could put people of doing these terrible things.
Ok sub question
Does the government have the expertise and will to get these people?
Scandinavian:
no, the gubbermint has zero expertise and zero skill, nor does it have any will to do anything about this. what good would it do them ?
its a trend that will never stop! practices is like this always find a new way to get past the brick wall
Young boy's eyes gouged out in China
Why on EARTH dont parents watch their kids? Especially 6 year olds???
This is a VERY big problem, especially in developing countries. The young and the poor are the most common and defenseless victims.
Words just are not enough for me to express my anger and hatred towards people who do such evil things against kids. There is no Hell painful enough for this kind of scum.
Even in the "developed" countries, I would still keep an eagle eye on my young children. There are simply too many evil people in the world. And I say the world because this happens everywhere.
Somebody tried to steal my Bontempi organ when I was a kid the bastard!
Otherwise, soylent green and that crap film with tom hanks in...errr cloud atlas, organ plants...chinas next industry.
Well, you can stop them by having sex on a 30 day visa.
I don't know what to say. For pretty much any topic I would usually make a joke that's vaguely insulting to a group of people but I just don't have it in me. This news made me angry, it made me hit a table (like that'll help!), and go and find a drink. Pucking hunts.
Thats really sick, even for China. BTW is there an organ donor list that we can put Sparkey on?
How to avoid organ thieves? Easy: take up the harmonica, nobody wants to steal that, except maybe Stevie Wonder, and that f***er can't see for sh*t.
It disgusts me to think that a person, even a child, is only worth the sum total value of their body parts. An inability to empathize for strangers or the young dehumanises any society, and it is disturbing to think ANYONE who is unwary or vulnerable is in danger. It is also a strong indictment of what a society values if this is not vigorously pursued. I know as a teacher in China, my only value is the fact that i am a foreign native speaker...... Organ donation cards are carried in many foreign countries, whereby post-mortem organs can be used to benefit others, but this kind of thinking is probably alien here.
Oh goodie. It stays in the family http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/04/world/asia/china-boy-eyes-gouged/index.html?hpt=ias_c2
Or the aunt is just being used as a scapegoat since she conveniently decided to check out.
To add more answer to OP.
China faces a couple of challenges.
1. The number of people in need of an organ far far far outnumbers the number of available organs. Only 10000 people per year get replacement parts.
2. The Chinese culture dictates that the body is buried whole, people are not likely to give up organs
3. The family based culture and extreme selfishness means that there is little chance anyone would want to donate an organ to a stranger
4. The legislation around when a person is death is outdated. E.g. if a car crash victim is 100% brain dead, but still has a heartbeat his organs cannot be used. Here there is of course a lot of urban legends about people waking up after years of coma. Science is not allowed to interfere with irrational decisions.
5. It would be wicked if people could see it is wrong to get organs from questionable sources such as theft or executed prisoners.
Oh Lord, I just read it was now thought to be an aunt... how could any family member do that!
Regardless of whether or not the aunt was responsible, it is an area that should still be open to investigation. Ever wondered how much you were worth?
- Pair of Eyeballs: $1,525
- Scalp: $607
- Skull with Teeth: $1,200
- Shoulder: $500
- Coronary Artery: $1,525
- Heart: $119,000
- Liver: $157,000
- Hand and Forearm: $385
- Pint of Blood: $337
- Spleen: $508
- Stomach: $508
- Small Intestine: $2,519
- Kidney: $262,000
- Gallbladder: $1,219
- Skin: $10 per square inch This is probably not up-to-date, and you can see why students here have been reported to sell kidney's in order to get a computer.
