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Q: Pay rises in China: Do you get one annually?

My salary has been the same for the past 2 years. I haven't asked about a pay rise because I hate negotiating. I was expecting the company to automatically give me a raise since I've been there for quite a while and do a good job. Do employers here not automatically review your performance and give you a raise each year?

13 years 13 hours ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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I've got too much money as it is . . I would never ask for a raise. If you want to make more money go find another job that has a starting salary that exceeds your last job. 

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so you don't do anual?

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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same here, work 2y+ and no increase by single one penny :(

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In most companies they have a limit! And thats good & Bad and all, you don't want to become too expensive as you would be the first to be let go out of some companies.

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If you're teaching ESL in China unfortunately I think you have to jump ship to get a raise. My current employer has put a 20% increase year on year on the table, which I can't fault him, ain't half bad. Problem is whilst the money would be pretty good in a few years, I can see myself going insane well before then. 

 

Not only am I in the middle of nowhere which makes it quite isolating, but my main point of contact is a sales manager in the company who has got to be one of the worst people I've ever met. The man embodies that lie, cheat and steal mentally. I'm in Hunan btw, I'm  sure Hulk knows what I'm on about. Honestly every time he opens his mouth I get irate and he's undoubtedly gotten worse since he's found out I'm leaving. On top of that, I get ridiculous demands from the mother of the two children I teach which is just restricting my ability to teach ............................e.g. You can't use a computer it will give them cancer and it's bad for their eyes; though letting them read  and watch TV for good knows how many hours a day is fine. ...................You can't use flashcards, use books as it's not considered proper teaching.

 

The funniest one was when they asked me to get the little one to write with his right hand and not his left. So naturally when I saw him draw with his left I corrected him. Then it transpired that I was wrong because she had seen on some people on TV write with their right hand and draw with their left......AT THE SAME TIME....and wanted her son to do the same.....though probably only  0.01% of the people in China can do this. He's a princeling and in no way falls into this minute percentage and why would they want him too anyway, there's no real advantage in it. It's putting up with stuff like this i.e. being told what to do by people that don't have a clue that has made my decision to leave very easy.

 

I'm leaving for a better package initially and whilst in a few years I would be better of here, my sanity sure as hell wouldn't. Naturally I'm apprehensive because of the change but hey it's China. If I wanted to take shite for good money (much more then I'm currently on) I'd have stayed in the UK.

sorrel:

according to a new poster, all foreign teachers are mentally ill anyway ;o)

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Lol, who said that Sorrel, please post the link. I'll show em how wrong they are by taking a page out of Mr Sausage's book and beating them to death with an English textbook ;). 

 

I love your posts btw, always very polite and well thought out. 

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Found it!! Time to lay the smack down.

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15-20% is the norm I believe. Anything less than 12% and I would walk.

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Same for me. Two years in the same company without a pay rise. In the end, I left.

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I negotiate a new salary every year. Saying you don't like to negotiate in China is like throwing your wallet into a market place and asking the stall owners to take what they think is appropriate!! Give 'em an inch...............

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after i sabotate the company enough so i am unique and they need me, i ll ask for big increase.

 

teachers cant do that but they have like 1mio schools they can choose

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