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Q: qualifying income requirements of american sponsor to marry a foriegn lady
i make about 11,000$ a year well below the income poverty requirement of 23,000$ minimum income a american man as a sponsor needs to make to be allowed by my government to marry a chinese lady in america i have no relatives or frends whom wants to be a sponsor for me to financially be responsible if anything happens to avoid her being a burden for my goverment i have a copy from the USCIS form I-864 affidavit of support on page 9 question 6 my spouse if i am married her income combined with my income as she is a household member my wife/spouse Her income qualifies the income my government requires of me! As long as her income buisines/company is and remains as her source of income during our marriage till she becomes a resident [3 years] it is allowed But, have to marry her first in china to become hers sponsor then our incomes are combined into 1ncome then it makes me meet the income requirement my government wants me as as a sponsor!!! can anyone tell me if im correct about this??
8 years 45 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - China
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
How is it possible to make that little? What are you, a part time waiter? Do you have a degree? Why not come to PRC to be with her, while working? You would make more money.
...No, I think that you are not a real person.
cub:
whats oops mean? again as i explained to scotsalan, im uable to work because a accident years ago! im on disbility! Thats why i earn only 11,000$a year ok? i dont need a cane or walker i can walk but slowly my balance isnt very good! there are things i can still do but in a limited way! i was paralized about a year!
There is no question 6 on page 9.
Anyway, I doubt you can combine your incomes as she seems to be in China. How can she be working in China earning money if she is with you in the states?
If she is earning more than $12k a year in China, and you are on $11k a year in the US, it would seem to make more sense that you come to China, marry here, get a residence permit and let her support you.
You wont be able to work here on a spousal RP.
ScotsAlan:
Ahh. page 9, instruction 6 on the instruction book.
It says yes, you can use her income, so long as it continues.
But I don't see how that can happen if she is living on a different continent.
her parents own a company she is the boss as the ceo and she can still run it from my country with other management who help by the internet returning a few times a year to check on how her business is going! i have even asked a immigration embassy consulate who works through immigration in the US and he said yes, this wil work And her business/company the income she earns off it she has to show/prove to my government continuing this source of income for 3 years after we marry till she is approved to become a resident [3 years]But, i need to marry her in china first She earns 100,000$ a year! of course, i want to see her finances the same one she has to show my government as a source of income to be sure she isnt inflating or exaggerating her income to me i had a hard copy sent to me by USCIS the online version might be different! Her income alone reported as income assets as her company we will have a joint account after we marry! the government sees this has her proof of income they will approve then of me getting married in my country! because of a accident years ago,physically im unable to work,im on disability Thats why i earn 11,000$ a year!
fada:
One of the two of you, if not both are trying to scam the system, i suspect. no way you guys make it past the interview stage, but good luck with your endeavours.
ScotsAlan:
I dont understand the rush then. If she is making such money, why dont you just pack up and move to China? Have you physically met her yet? If not, it sounds like she would have no problem at all getting a tourist visa for the US by herself. She could come visit you for a while, you get your marriage stuff in order, get a visa for China, and travel back here together to get married. You could then stay here with her while the spouse visa is processed.
ScotsAlan:
ahh. Now more info comes out. The OP has limited mobility. Maybe China is not an ideal destination after all. Then again. he says he can walk, so should be ok?
...So is this the next big immigration scam, marrying guys on SSI? As far as marriage scams go, it is brilliant.
cub:
spider, can u get rid or your bitterness for awile? yes, im on SSI so what? and me wanting to marry a foreign lady where is the scam in this at? i am the one who initiated our relationship withis lady im not being forced to do this! seriously spider where do u get your paranioa from? i guess anything u cant understant is a scam? remember, this chinese lady is wealthier than i am, she has her own copany she is willing to pay to fly to my country pay to fly me to china, pay for the immigration lawyer 1800$ pay for all the fees the immigration c harge about 3000$
I read about these kind of marriages several years ago. It is a scam. Once she gets citizenship, don't expect to ever hear from her/see her again. Also, to bring her over on a Fiancee Visa, you have to have physically met within the past two years. And if the goal is to marry her while she is on a travel visa... that is visa fraud.
ambivalentmace:
people marry for money, for a passport, divorce is easy, if its a scam and he is happy for 3 years, then get another one, not a big deal, a chinese lady in atlanta georgia, an old neighbor, she could not have children, so she marries a new man every 5 years to get him a passport and in return they buy her a house and pay all her bills, she is in her 50's now with 5 houses and rental income to live on and a nice car, who did she harm, pays her taxes and stays out of trouble, runs a seamstress shop and makes dresses for proms.
fada:
Seems to me like she seriously harmed 5 different people not to mention their dependents due to her greed. This is exactly the kind of person i would do my best to keep out of my country
cub:
fada, i agree but thats the job our government through ICE is supposed to do go after fraud and abuse of the immigration laws and system!
RandomGuy:
Protip, you got a Western passport go to any mall in first tier CBDs and you will quickly be approched by rich Chinese men and women willing to pay whatever you want for a sham marriage scheme so they can escape the CCP before they are investigated for corruption. The deal is each on his own, they give you a good lumsum of a few millions and only meet for pretend couple life or at the end for the paperwork, no sex of course but with that money finding a girlfriend shouldn't be an issue.
ScotsAlan:
There is also the physical abuse rule. If she goes to the states on a spouse visa and claims he hits her she gets a green card straight away and he goes to jail. No 3 year wait, freedom from husband and grounds for an easy divorce.
cub:
scotsalan, if u seen how my balance isnt very good or that physically i couldnt hit a lady because i would lose my balance and fall the judg/jury would know she was lyig making it up and no, she wouldnt get a green card! In my situation, this wouldnt work out for her!
Spiderboenz:
You clearly have no idea how the system works in regards to domestic abuse claims made by women.
It will be YOUR income ONLY, since if you marry her and take her to USA, her Chinese income will stop.
cub:
happy, i been studying this for over 2 years so im no rookie at this ok? Yes i know its my income only my government looks at but After i marry her in china its legal to combine both of our incomes this proves to my government our combined house hold income is enough to qualify so there wont be any depenency financialy as a burden on my government! Yes she is required to prove her income as her business how much she earns a year before immigration allows her the spouse/relative visa so i can marry her in my country! Thats why i need to marry her 1st in china Then being she is my wife/spouse our incomes combined as a married income household!
cub:
ok happy since u have all the answeres here care to explain how her income will stop after she moves from china to my country? Her business will still be there unles she sells it but cant because she needs a source of income for 3 years after we marry till she becomes a resident[3 years] This is what my government requires her to do ok? her parents ar wealthy the are willing to help us financially if they need to! Also if she chooses to start a business in my country which she easily can do, thats another source of income she will earn while married to me in my country!
cub:
ok happy since u have all the answeres here care to explain how her income will stop after she moves from china to my country? Her business will still be there unles she sells it but cant because she needs a source of income for 3 years after we marry till she becomes a resident[3 years] This is what my government requires her to do ok? her parents ar wealthy the are willing to help us financially if they need to! Also if she chooses to start a business in my country which she easily can do, thats another source of income she will earn while married to me in my country!
HappyExPat:
Cub:
if you bother to read and understand the visa requirements, you will know that it is only your income. And you prove it by submitting YOUR last three income tax statements.
If you include her income with yours on those statements, then you can do it. If not, you are wasting time wishing. A friend of mine fought the US Consulate in Guangzhou for over 4 years for this same reason, his income was under Poverty level. And he lost every appeal. And I have never claimed I know everything about China, there is a lot I do not know. But after 17 years of dealing with China issues, I feel I have learned many lessons, but never all lessons.
if her income is high, she comes to visit you in the u.s., you marry in the u.s., then file for adjustment of status to marriage, and she is allowed to stay in the u.s. while the processing takes place because she entered on a legal visa as a tourist. you will receive an interview in 3 to 6 months and she gets a temporary green card at the interview that becomes permanant 2 years after the interview date.
living in a state with less immigrants will get the interview faster, 3 months in maine, 6 months in california.
good luck, ive done this twice already, maybe a third time is in my future. currently taking resumes for my 4th xwife just in case.
cub:
ambivalentmace, its illegal to have her be visitng me on her visitor visa to meet me and marry me in my country ok? my government wont allow this! i need to marry her 1st in china, i will be visiting her on a visitor visa how long it lasts ,the visa it varies! i marry her in china stay with her the length my visa lasts then come back home apply for a spous/relative visa can take 3 months then there are 3 forms to apy for one is for her residency oe is hr work permit the other is a permit so she can fly back to and from china then there is the proof of income form we both send in she has a medical exam then after all thisis approved by immigration she flys to meet me we then have up to 3 months to get married in my country! All this can take a year ok? USCIS told me this so i think they now what they are talking about
ambivalentmace:
you can marry anybody that comes into the united states on any visa and change the status and process the marriage, your not supposed to plan and do this on purpose, which means no text messages, letters, emails or written proof that you planned this ahead of time, so if you happen to fall in love with her after meeting her in america, its fine to marry,
my first wife was from the philippines, one year fiance visa, the second from china student visa change status and process, third one tourist visa, marry in hawaii, im not in jail and taking resumes for 4th xwife currently, dont believe everything a government official tells you, and always get an answer from more then 3 government workers. i have a friend who married a filipino who got sent to dallas texas for training for a call center manager, they had known each other for 4 years on the internet, when she got to dallas on the company visa for training, she ran off and married him and 5 years later she has a passport and 2 kids and works as a nurse.
ScotsAlan:
I know a US guy (young dude) who married his gf in the States after she had gone over on a tourist visa. I also know a UK guy who took his pregnant wife to the UK on a tourist visa, she had the baby for free on the NHS and was granted leave to remain. Human rights and all that. Western Governments do not want to splt families up. All to do with the UN human rights etc :)
cub:
ambivalentmace, technicaly es i could marry her here but what about her visitor visa thats good for only 6 months long? then my government will eventually find out about my getting married to a foriegn lady only here on her vistor visa, and them knowing my income isnt enough that im allowed by my government to marry here? im not too keen on always looking over my shoulder sneaking around '' getting away with it'' like the million of illegals are doing have done in my countyr! im wanting to do this by the book following the rulles not bending them ok?
ambivalentmace:
i understand not bending rules, but she would be allowed to stay under the criteria of "adjustment of status" clause, your only concern, not looking over your back, is will she have income and a joint bank account, and tax returns together with you to show she is productive and not a leecher to the system, if all these are good, there will be no questions asked and everything will be fine.
scotsalan i never said this before but im not wanting kids because of my age my disabilty and she knows about this and is ok with it Ambivalentmace arent u having me taking some risky actions by marrying her in my country while she is visiting me here? Sooner or later my government will find out about our marriage here but not going through the proper way of doing it! Sure your suggestions are food for thought its tempting! But would u do this if u was me? Immigration frowns whe a foriegner comes here on a visitor visa and then marries while here! All th ey need is any excuse to revoke her visa send her back to china without me! Yes, she told me what her income is and for now i have to trust that she is truthful about this! Yes, i want to see her records of her income her tax returns to be assured she is being honest with me about this before i marry her Because my limited income i get a year no way i could afford to support a wife on it alone! i dont even own my own house!
ScotsAlan:
She actually has no choice but to have a baby. She is an only child, and a baby will be demanded. There is no way on earth a 22 year old Chinese girl has a say on the subject. If you want to marry a Chinese woman but dont want kids, you need to find an older divorced or widowed woman who already has kids. Seriously, a 22 year old Chinese saying she does not want kids is lying.
cub:
Scotsalan,but what if i told her, and I have, and shes aware that its a possibility im unable to give her kds remember scotsalan, there are some ladies out there that are independant as in maybe they dont want kids maybe thier parents leaves this decision up to her its her choice if she wants or dont want kids The type of u are talking about are very traditional parents there are some situations that are not so cut and dried
