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Q: Should facist groups be banned?

Theresa May in a statement said Far right groups are banned in the UK. Although I hate racist groups they have a right to express themselves and assemble

1 year 43 weeks ago in  Transport & Travel - China

 
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I don't condone violence from either side and im no fan of white exsteamist bullies .
Just a question to the Americans here.
Those status and monuments to the confederatsy ..did General Lee or Andrew Jackson do everything noble or were they just aheet wearing slavers ?

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Interesting question Ted....

 

Yes, they have the right to express themselves and assemble but maybe the question is, should they have that right?

 

I hate them too, I put them in the same category as gangs, maybe not quite in the same league as far as being a menace to society but certainly in the same ballpark.

 

The thing with banning them is that, like gangs, it's pretty hard to stamp something like that out. In fact, driving them underground would probably make them worse.

 

I don't know that they should be able to march down a street, armed, spewing hate and encouraging more bullshit and violence in society though, there's enough of that already.

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I don't condone violence from either side and im no fan of white exsteamist bullies .
Just a question to the Americans here.
Those status and monuments to the confederatsy ..did General Lee or Andrew Jackson do everything noble or were they just aheet wearing slavers ?

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What's that ol' maxim?  'Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile' .......   to me that's the problem with all this social engineering and another reason I like PRC no PC approach to things.

You say down with Righty,, well, to be fair I can say down with Lefties. Fair is Fair, right?  Then some gomer can say, hey, that Confederate statue sux 'nads! Get rid of it,,, it hurts my feelings!  Then I can say,,, why the heck u memorialising Lincoln! He had us killed by the thousands,,, hurts my feelings,,, get rid of it!

I figure a person should be able to do pretty much anything they wanna do, short of actually bringing physical harm.

But, lotsa people say ,,, well, the majority wants it this way, ,,, that's when I say,, just be careful,,, take an inch,, then they take a mile.

 

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I think of it from a forbidden fruit perspective. When you try and ban something like that you write the recruitment material for the people with nasty agendas trying to sound reasonable.

 

Same with all the protesting. There is nothing that people on the far right want more than to have a mob of leftists come and disrupt their speaking events...preferably a mob of unattractive people including overweight women and effeminate men (i.e. nobody that their followers would respect) shouting slogans which make it clear they have no idea what their target actually thinks. Then regardless of whatever trash they showed up to talk they have a valid point that a bunch of (fellow) losers are trying to silence them for political reasons.

 

Without the protestors nobody would give a shit about people like Milo. For god sakes, banning/deplatforming/protesting these people & groups is giving them exactly what they want!

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The question with freedom is not should everyone have it, the answer is yes. 

 

The question with freedom is, what for?

 

Here lies the tricky part, once given free will, how do you know what that person is going to do with it, join KKK, fly a plane into some building, or invent a cure for cancer?

 

En masse speaking, I don't see this experiment with free will going that well. Simply look at nature, the state it is in relative to a mere few hundred years ago.

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Thoughts should never be a crime.

 

For example, that American dude that was arrested this week for planting a bomb in Oklahoma. Wow. Very dodgy. Because it seems the FBI sold him the dud bomb and "facilitated" it. Sting ops are bad. Especially when coupled with plea bargains.

 

Also in the news this week is a 26 year old teacher, in court for assaulting a Nazi at Berkeley last year. Her arguement is that there was no crime. She was defending herself and her country against Nazis.

 

Both my late grandfathers fought the Nazis. One on land, and one in the boiler room of HMS Sheffield.  I will never know what they done, or what they went through, because they refused to talk about it.

 

Forget this Neo Nazi, alt right, white power shit. A Nazi is a Nazi.

 

Trumps comments this week, insulted my Grandfathers and Great uncles.He insults the Italian widow who lived next door to where I grew up.AI woman who was alone all her life because of the memory of her husband who died fighting the Nazis. A woman who fled Italy, and was taken in and cared for.

 

And lets not forget, those nasty people with their bamboo torches and Nazi chants hate white men who have married " outside their race". According to them, I am a race traitor.

 

They say they are defending "white European culture". Ha ha. They have no idea.

 

So yeah. Simple solution. Don't ban them. Banning is wrong.

 

Just make it legal to beat the shit out of them. The same as it was in Europe 39-45.

 

They took 50 million lives 70 years ago, and they took a life last weekend. No more life should be lost to these scum.

 

A strong opinion I know, especially coming from a so called Muslim apologist. But lets get it straight. These Nazis have no reason to hate. They hate for the sake of it. Privileged white guys who just need to hate. Fucking nutters.

 

But Trump says some of them are nice. Go to Arlington Mr President. Tell that to the people who died fighting them.

 

 

 

 

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The reason these people get banned is because they use coercion and force. Many are armed with the intent to incite, or actually engage in violence. They often twist the truth and some will twist history and lie. We see this among many religious groups now.

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