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Q: Should I stay or resign?

I switched to a new school a few months ago; upon arrival they insisted I sign a new contract with significant differences from what I negotiated before coming. I was told that they would not honor the contract I signed before coming, there was new management in the company, so I gave in and signed the new contract rather than risk wasting the nearly 1000 USD I spent on the visa process and plane tickets.  In retrospect I regret doing this as they probably would have just kept the contract I negotiated before coming, rather than wasting the money they also invested on bringing me here.

So now, a few months into the deal, I'm considering resigning, just not sure how to go about this. I want to let them know that the reason for my resigning is their scammy business practice, but also want to keep my residency documents here legal so I can transfer to a different company, perhaps further inland (I'm in a coastal city). I also need to find a different company to work at.

 

Any tips on how to go about this - resigning, letting the management know why I resigned, getting my new documents, and finding a more honest company to work for (and coming up with  a good explanation to them why I resigned) - would be appreciated. I teach a subject class in western-style high school program, not ESL, so similar positions may be trickier to find.

10 years 40 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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First mistake - signing a contract for other than what you agreed to (lick your wounds, you'll get over it). DO NOT make a grocery list of reasons why you are resigning - major loss of face for the school. Use "Family emergency" as an excuse - get your release letter and recommendation then move on. Finding an "honest" company in China is like looking for a bus-station wc that doesn't smell - it doesn't happen...just look for the least stinky. There are a plethora of "international" schools and programs. If they're paying 30K RMB/mo, they're international. Less than that, they're "international" in name only. Good luck.

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just tell the truth.    this is China!!!           that just about covers everything from corruption to pollution surprise

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how many times can you ask about this? you are an adult right? act like it. man the puck up. 

always have a plan b. if sb is trying to screw you over, use them for what you can then puck them over big time. 

few months, you are past the probationary period accept the fact that you pucked up, finish the term and then bounce. 

sam239:

You mean finish the first term of the year, or there's no feasible way out of the contract?  Now that I know they pull this kind of s*** I should find a different company to work at. Maybe it's going to be easier just to finish this contract then move on.

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you screwed up  when you stayed there past the probationary period. 

if a company pulled that on me, i would not sign the new contract but i would have found another job and left during the probationary period. all legal on my end. 

 

you screwed up now live with your screw up 

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Crimo I haven't asked before...didn't want to post with my username as it makes it obvious who I am in case my coworkers read this. You suggest that resignation is a very bad thing to do at this point? I think my question comes down to that, am I likely just running towards something that is equally as bad, should I put up with this and learn for the next time, or what.

 

I'm an adult but I don't handle stressful situations/intimidation well, I gave into demands and now am biting my own mistake.

crimochina:

if you do not handle stressful situations well, then you need to go back home and mature some more. this is not the place for weaklings. there is no rule of law. you have got to stay focused in stressful situations, if you can't find another country. 

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sam239:

Well good advice, but I admitted F-in' up but want to fix my mistake and asked to find some tips about how to handle this. Certainly I've never come across this type of "business strategy" back home. Looks like my choices are as follows: (1) suck it up and admit I gave in when I could have stood my ground, (2) find a new job/resign/move on. With number 2, I'm still interested in how to explain why I'm moving onto a Chinese employer. Sounds like the company won't back out of this (that would be "losing face") and I want to stay in China so moving along is my option.

Any way it's not your problem, so enjoy your beer.

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crimochina:

do you want to stay in china for another year?

if yes, you gotta serve out your contract then get the puck out and be smart, learn from this!!!!!!

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sam239:

So you think resigning and getting a different job is not feasible? They won't give me the documents, or why? I've made the fatal mistake?

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If you are a subject teacher, you should resign. If you are good, you are good and so should move on. The question however, is whether the current school you are with, will allow you to leave.

sam239:

Yes that is the big question, I don't know how I am going to negotiate this one.

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If in doubt, resign

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The schools in China only use the contract in their favor. Therefore, it does not matter even if there is a clause in your contract about resignation.

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It is never too late to try. Like Scandinavian said, "when in doubt, resign".

 

You are in China and so you need guts to stand up to what you believe in. If not, pluck out your guts and suffer till the end of the contract, in silence. You make the choice!

sam239:

OK, I will let people know how this plays out. I am literally sick to my stomach at the outright lying and manipulation. It's like they think I'm dependent on them and they can just screw me in the a** and I should just suck it up. I sometimes wonder if they think western economies are so crappy that we're entirely dependent on them. Ha!

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Hey Sam. I am telling you exactly what I did and have come off it. Do the same and stick to your guns. You will be surprised by how well you do too. Just trust in yourself buddy!

 

Do let us know.

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Never trust "them" with Contracts, I have been painted into a corner before by "them".. !, 

Bugger it, if your not happy, then just leave I suggest

. In China, a contract isnt worth the paper its written on friend.

They are very good at changing face, and agreements, change as quick as the weather.

 does, sooo be very careful of themmmmm....

sam239:

Cheers bro, and I read all about their dirty little tricks before coming here, and still fell into this. Ah well. I will see what develops, Good Luck to you

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