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Q: Signing A Contract At An Unlicensed School.

What's the point in signing anything? It would be like signing a contract with your drug dealer stating certain stipulations on the process of your drug deal. If one of you break this contract you can't go running to the cops with this contract, so why even do it?

 

A contract seems to me only should be used in legal scenarios where lawful agreements are happening.

 

Like if say the unlicensed employer told you they would give you so many RMB's, and shorted you or never paid you, There nothing you can do, I guess you go vigilante, but I'm talking legal ways.

 

Why not just go with spoken agreements until one of you fucks the other over?  Makes more sense and easier to deal with it would seem.

 

 

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the school will usually dont tell you that they are illegal and to make the fake face look real, they give you a contract.

if both parties know, of course a contract from legal side is useless. But sometime you still can tell the boss "hey, you wrote it down here" so if he need you, he will follow it.

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Because in China you the foreigner are the one who will bear the brunt of any repercussions.
The school will just get a slap on the wrist and then praised for bringing you to the governments attention.
You know honor among criminals and that.
Chinese interpretation of right and wrong is different to foreign ....

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the school will usually dont tell you that they are illegal and to make the fake face look real, they give you a contract.

if both parties know, of course a contract from legal side is useless. But sometime you still can tell the boss "hey, you wrote it down here" so if he need you, he will follow it.

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The contract is worthless and meaningless.
Everything could go well or go could go horribly wrong.
I'm leaning towards the latter.

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Signed and stamped Contract isn't worthless .... at least my Contracts never were! 

 

If party A doesn't respect the Contract, one should dial Foreign Expert Bureau (SAFEA) and ask them for their opinion and help. SAFEA is there to issue WP, FEC and to mediate disputes between both parties.

Anybody wants to talk to SAFEA enter 'SAFEA' in search above for address and contact no. in every Province ....

 

Legally, Contract is worthless, if party A doesn't hold 'laowai hire authorization', which is granted to School by SAFEA.

 

You should ask School to show such authorization, before you ink the Contract!

 

'Laowai hire authorization' looks very similar to FEC, and it is necessary to see such cert., especially when FT is transferring the Residence permit to new sponsor.

 

There is another way to check, if School can hire foreigners.

 

http://www.anesl.com/schools/ info.asp?province=Guangdong& keyword=University&cmd=Search

 

Change parameters (city/Province, School's level) and see, if School you are applying hold 'foreign hire authorization'.

 

Web link above is some 5 years old and it isn't updated. I rarely use it and I instead ask School to show me the file of their 'laowai hire auth.'. 

 

You must see certificate, before you sign the Contract!

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