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Q: A stupid foreigner

I have recently faced moderately mild case of fraud. I was looking for a mandarin tutor and it turned out to be very difficult task. After a bunch of emails and calls I agreed for a meeting with a tutor. She was gorgeous- rich experience, beautiful English but quite expensive(125 rmb/hour, each time must be two hours). But then I remembered few tutors whose english was pretty scaring and they asked for 120~, so I agreed. It was required to sign a contract, I asked the teacher one more time who was going to be my teacher and I was passionately assured that it was she. The contract costed  me more than two thousands for one month. Finally next week half an hour before lesson I got an email saying that a school(what school?) has found a perfect teacher for me. I was intrigued... Of course I'm not a native speaker but English spoken by that teacher is far, so far from at least sufferable. I am very angry because she clearly does not cost that money and I could find a teacher twice as cheaper and with much better english. I  understand that I am to blame in this situation but it is so not fair. 

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

7 years 8 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - Other cities

 
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Welcome to China !

now repeat after me ......."This is why we drink"wink

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Welcome to China !

now repeat after me ......."This is why we drink"wink

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"All foreigners are rich and stupid" (sic)

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So you were scammed by a "gorgeous" tutor. Made me wonder, you signed the contract because she was "gorgeous" or did you sign because her English was "gorgeous"? 

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You are stupid beyond words. I have 20 people willing to teach me chinese for free. Even when I private tutor I have them pay per class. And stupid you paid upfront.

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is this guy for real?

who pays that much before the class...

the title definitely suits you

Stupid Foreigner

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Wow...

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Olalala, this place feels like home- people are so polite and nice.  

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Your reasoning for choosing this tutor is completely off. Are you looking for a good tutor, or a beautiful woman? Why are you looking for one with perfect English? The better their English is, the less you have to work to learn Chinese. You should be finding tutors with decent English (or at least working English) but not perfect English. Otherwise you'll fall into the trap of speaking English all the time. Secondly they will use the excuse of proficient English as a reason to garner a higher fee from you, arguing that they are giving you a higher service. Umm... You're here to study Chinese, not English. So no thank you
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Contracts in China mean nothing, but you're a foreigner so it's safe to say you've got no way of getting your money back. Maybe you can pressure them into it if you get mad enough....
Next time find a volunteer to help you for free or offer to pay a friend a third of the price. Anybody would do just as good of a job for a third of that price.
Finally, since contracts in China don't mean anything, NEVER GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY ALL AT ONCE!! Can't stress that one quite enough... You pay them after each lesson, so you don't lose your money to a fake contract. If you must sign a fake contract, have them write in that you will pay the tutor after each lesson, and you can sign your name on a little calendar sheet after each lesson, to keep record of the classes you have attended. If they give you trouble up front and say you must make a deposit, don't give in. They want your business then they'll listen to you. End of story....

But seriously just find a private tutor, no agent fees and no hoops.

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Chinese people never pay up front. When money comes first, product quality goes down. 

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Actually "gorgeous" - meant beautiful English and rich experience) unfortunately, I am not  interested in local fauna, well... on that level. And yes, I already understood how stupid it was. But after a bunch of tutors I saw she was like a Milka amount all those soap tasting Dove chocolates at family mart. 

 

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the other day you were asking about marrying a chinese...

I guess that plan has also shifted to plan B....

 

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So glad I'm married and can speak Chinese rather well.  And yes, you're stupid.  And gullible.  Rule #1:  Never believe anything anyone that looks Chinese tells you about anything.

 

Rule #2:  The hotter the girls, usually, the more needy and crazy they are.

 

Rule #3:  Do what most men do. . .go to one of these worthless training centers, tell them you will do part time work for one day a week for a couple of hours, and use the customers that come in for Chinese lessons when they ask you for private lessons, especially if they are married and say their husbands "work all the time."

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Many years ago I used to go shopping in the fresh market near my home, after shopping I would spend extra 40 minutes  with one of the vendors that I shopped from often while holding a piece of paper and a pen what everything on her stand was called they were more than happy to talk with me, sure I can't give a speech to the CCP congress but I can communicate with everyday people in my life just fine, hiring a Chinese tutor has never crossed my mind. Been happily living in Shanghai for 21 years.

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This post is old but just to update it.  125 yuan/hour is incredibly cheap for a private tutor.  That's what students tend to charge for 1-1 mandarin lessons.  A good teacher is at least 200 yuan/hour these days.

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Looks like you got a skimping service... One suggestion would be that you go and lodge a complaint at a commercial administration office (工商管理局) for the area you live in.

 

Doing that could be a challenge and source of headaches in and of itself, but think on the positive side because you'll learn a lot of social experience working in China!

 

If you get all the information handy, like the school's name, address, the contract etc, and you raise your voice a little bit and act pissed, you'll be taken seriously at the commercial administration office.

 

You might not get the original teacher back but it'll do definitely damange to the school!

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