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Q: Talking to Chinese about the Malay flight (now confirmed crashed and spotted)?

I've talked to 4 people and it is the same nonsense. 

5 years 47 weeks ago in  Culture - China

 
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Same.

 

I'm beginning to suspect that Chinese people don't have emotions. They just express media-dictated sentiments.

 

Once again, Chinese people are offended by something which no one would have taken as an affront had the Beijing government not told them to be offended.

 

"Oh, the media says this is an outrageous insult to China...  RAAARGH, I'M OUTRAGED!"

 

Chinese people: Imagine being able to react to things yourself. Imagine having emotions and opinions that were not dictated by the government. That's what it's like to not be Chinese.

 

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The same nonsense but much less in consequences to the 9/11 nonsense...

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Meh. Got small-scale argument over this with my wife

She was like "The Malaysian government was always giving information late"
I was like "I mean, duh, they always check a bit the infos before releasing them, being very careful"
She was like "But still, they did not handle that well. And maybe some are still alive, who knows"
I was all like "Duh, 2 weeks, 2000 km from the closest land, crashed on the sea, in a notoriously bad patch of sea"
She was like "Hey, that's normal, it's their relatives, they hope for them"
I was like "Relatives or not, physics and common sense applies, and if the damned pro say so, I trust this over Mr. Random Guy"
She was like "Gaaaah ! Whenever it's Chinese or from China, you always say it's garbage and doubtful !"
I was like "Well... That's kinda what I think, I mean, I live there, and see"

The joy of living in two different plane of reality

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They  expect an answer and their family members returned. ok, how is that possible when the world can't find the damn crash wreckage. It crashed in the ocean, an unspecified time after the signal was lost. How the hell are they supposed to know anything!

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I got an answer from my wife :

We do not care if one or 2 people did it. They was Malaysian and therefore we hate all malaysia now ...

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People get emotional everywhere, as well as they get manipulated by the media into reacting with instincts rather than producing critical and rational thinking. This is not a China thing exclusively, but everything is sure being done in the educative process so as no rationality gets in the way of the official fairy tales.

 

Okay, now we get that out of the way, yes, there is no point discussing such hot topics here. No point whatsoever. The news have dictated the way to go, and the way to go is overreaction. If you dare question that, you will "have no heart", you will "be thinking too much", or any of the usual rationalization people get comfort with.

 

We got fed two weeks of Beijing's crybaby reactions, constantly pushing childish demands when researches were already being done, for a hundred nationals it wouldn't two shits about should they have difficulties home. But don't expect anyone to see the trick.

 

So now we know that the default strategy in Beijing, should an international incident with or without political intentions happen, is to trigger emotional overreaction with a hint of national anger.

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Sadly this is yet another tragedy which Beijing is milking for all of it's nationalistic worth. Beijing really is trying to foster a "China vs. the World" mentality.

 

Aviation being one of my fields of interest I can say (in my own opinion) that the Malaysian government haven't managed the press, nor the press conferences very well, but the Search and Rescue mission has been far from incompetent.

 

And China certainly didn't help by publishing sat-images of various floating garbage and shouting "PLANE PLANE". All of the wreckage in the pictures published by China were way too big to come from a Boeing 777.

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http://news.163.com/14/0326/02/9O7SJ4TD00014AED.html "Experts say : families of American nationals can obtain up to 5 million dollars as compensation.*" (subtext: as opposed to the 5000 dollars all families already received, which is not a compensation but who cares already, just look at the numbers, boo boo Chinese are treated so unfairly)

 

Oh, yeah, by the way, the content inside the article goes in contradiction with the title's claim. Dollars become yuan at will. Even the title changes. But who cares already, work's done, comments are angry./p>

 

*We are indeed talking about accidents happening in America with no relation whatsoever to the present events. But this gets casually mentioned only halfway into the reading, along with the fact it's not 5 million USD but 5 million RMB.

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yes, what a great idea make it 5 million dollars payment to every victim from the airlines and only the rich airlines will be in business and poor people in china and malaysia can walk instead of fly, what a great idea, funny how i never thought of that before and a great way to lower the carbon footprint on the planet. good intentions without any consideration of the results.

by the way, lets reverse the events and say china lost the plane with passengers going to malaysia , does anybody really think china would have handled this any better than malaysia, really?

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So, here is how to shut down the mouthpieces. Before too many wild accusations start flying, lean in and go ".... back in <home country> I had a colleague from Virginia, his brother is some bigshot at Langley (explain if needed) he says they are withholding information about MH370.... during research, they found one of the Chinese passengers had a meeting two days before the flight, at a sushi place near Petronas towers (great place by the way) where he was handed a USB stick with some incriminating information about Xi... information so bad it would start a major amount of civil disorder, so the MSS had the real pilots replaced prior to take off, with Ministry of State Security agents, the agents, after turning the plane, parachuted from the cockpit windows and got picked up by a fishing boat and sailed back to safety"

 

 

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chinese people simply don't know how to be human. I'll give you 2 recent examples
I asked a teacher who came in wet, "was it raining outside?"
it took her 2 minutes to answer me, i actually had to ask her 3 times
here's why?
chinese thought process when answering a question: (what should i say? what is he trying to find out about me by asking, 'was it raining outside?' , why is he asking? What is the correct answer. If I say yes, and he goes outside and it is not raining, i will lose face. If I say no and he goes outside , i will lose face. what else can i say???? I will ignore the question. Oh no he asked again. I will act like I did not hear him. I know, let me search the internet for an answer. .. no wifi. I will say something neutral. )
her response: "it is ok"
I did not want to ask again.

Second my friend heard a song. Then she download ed the words.
She asked me what does the song mean because she wanted to make sure her feeling was correct.
I told her it is a song whatever you feel is ok. There is no correct feeling.
She said yes I know. But I want to know if my feelings are right.
We went on like this for 10 minutes until I stopped talking to her.

They are not allowed to have individual minds and personalities

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Actually the chinese might be on to something. The latest reports turned out to be false. They still can't find that plane just garbage. We've really pucked up the ocean

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/disappearance-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-...

 

I take comfort that my reservations about the US and its intelligence services as well as other intelligence services closely linked to the US, especially British secret service, have been more than vindicated by Reuters in its news report on 28th March, 2014 entitled Geopolitical games handicap hunt for flight MH370

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/28/malaysia-airlines-geopolitics-...

 

While Malaysia has been accused of a muddled response and poor communications, China has showcased its growing military clout and reach, while some involved in the operation say other countries have dragged their feet on disclosing details that might give away sensitive defence data.

http://www.debka.com/article/23806/MH370-stays-missing-for-want-of-data-...

3. The governments involved in the search, the US, China, India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, are using their resources not just to locate the missing Boeing, but for purposes of their own: a) Trials of their innovative intelligence and military technology; b) Checking out the satellite and electronic cyber resources of fellow-agencies engaged in the hunt and c) Discovering the outer limits of their colleagues’ intelligence capabilities and range in one of the most forbidding places on earth.
The lessons these powers are drawing from their own and their rivals’ performance are providing them with a study text on their comparative strengths and weaknesses in the event of potential sea, air or cyber conflicts.
It is worth noting in this regard that neither Russia nor France has volunteered to help Malaysia in the search. France’s contribution would be especially valuable in the light of its experience in the search for the Air France flight which crashed in the Atlantic in 2009 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. Neither was prepared to expose its satellite and intelligence resources to the competition.

The fourth week is likely to focus on scouring the sea bed for the black box of MH370. But if nothing substantial crops up yet again, the disappearance of the Malaysian airliner will have to go down as one of the unsolved mysteries of modern aviation.
The only chance of cracking it lies in all the governments taking part in the search setting aside their rivalries, pushing their experts and agents into one room and ordering them to come clean and piece together all the data they have collected. Perhaps then a true picture will finally emerge. But that is not about to happen.

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Seems China has found an Orange Box 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/05/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.h...

 

I guess that makes it easier to cover up that the Malaysians did a good (or at least tried to) job

 

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