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Q: Teaching in China long term?

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Is it possible to stay and teach in China long term, to make teaching a long  career?

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She has a kid, the answer is no. You'll never earn enough. Your kid isn't a national and therefore you'd  have pay a shit load for private schools. 

When you ask a question like this, give relevant detail.

 

Additional note, if your husband was abusive and was kicked out of the US why in the fucking world would you bring your child to where he can bother you? Looking to rekindle the drama? Be smart for your kid. Getting to know Chinese culture? BS excuse, America is full of Chinese and Chinese neighborhoods.

Stiggs:

Ted raised a really good point. Your daughter's education.

 

It's going to be expensive, out of range for an English teacher probably and would you really want your girl going to a Chinese school? ( I assume her Chinese speaking would be up to the challenge but if not it would be tough for her) There's a reason Chinese people are desperate to get their kids a foreign education.

 

 

 

 

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Saw, that after seeing her history of posts. 

 

Then the answer is obviously.. absolutely no... kind of a huge deal changer there. 

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Sure.

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Hi Rebecca, it is theoretically possible. But for a foreigner, it probably isn't a career. Schools consider you a novelty or marketing device. Nothing more. A necessary evil if you like.

I am guessing that you haven't been in china for very long. You are in your honeymoon phase. This will pass and you will want to get out of teaching and stay or just get out.

Enjoy this phase. When your language improves and you understand the culture better you may feel different after you know what people are really saying to you and about you whilst you are one meter away.

Have fun. Be legal. Take each day and everything as it come.

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At Wall Street you can grow and build a career, we have many departments.

 

I call it a career if you find other ways to invest and use your money to help build your future, not just let it sit in your account and do nothing.

I always tell others.

1. Save for a house or down payment first.

2. Put money in a long term stock or yearly rate account.

3. Learn how to exchange currencies and make more. (The pound rate bought me a new car.)

4. You're not gonna have kids yet but someday you will, start an early college fund.

5. Learn how to trade on whole markets rather than just stocks alone.

 

6. After you have spent a year or more preparing these, than go out and enjoy the world knowing you are set for a great stable future.

Robk:

Yeah, currency exchange can be massive. 

 

I made USD, so when I convert it into RMB... obviously it is massive. 

 

But even when I convert it into CAD... I get like 30-40% more CAD from the conversion. That alone would pay off my income tax for the entire year while living in Canada. 

 

Make Pounds and USD if you can. 

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This really depends on which type of school you teach at: 

 

1) Public Schools (MS, HS, Uni) - Sure, you can teach at these long-term but your career will not advance. You will most likely get paid less than other schools but your workload is usually also less. If your school is willing, you may be able to supplement your income with side jobs. Usually provide you with living quarters.

 

2) Private International Schools - These usually pay much more but demand much higher qualifications. Even then, you usually need to know someone to get into these schools. It is quite possible to stay at them long-term and you can develop your career as they normally (the REAL ones) follow a western type of structure. Usually provide you with living quarters or a housing allowance. 

 

3) Training Centers - This really depends on the brand, branch and management of that branch. If you get a bad one, you won't last longer than a year or so... if even. You will be worn down and none of your ideas will be taken on board. If you get a good one, you could advance to a center director or some other management position. The best training centers are usually - Wall Street English, Web International and Disney English. Again, it depends on the branch. EF English First... I only hear bad things about that one and plenty of others.

 

Usually do not provide living quarters but sometimes a housing allowance.

 

4) Business Sectors - You could make a lot of money teaching English to business professionals. I don't see too many people make a long-term career out of it as teaching English is generally aimed at students but in the larger cities it is a possibility.

 

Pretty sure you pay your own housing.

 

5) Kindergartens - Many childcare facilities employ a foreign teacher for simple English lessons. If you love children, this could be a great long-term choice. Personally, it would wear me down as Chinese children are not as well behaved as maybe children from more developed countries. Children are children everywhere but it makes it even more difficult for a foreigner to control them because they look at foreigners as a source of fun and entertainment. Do you take order from your pets? 

 

Not too sure on this one. 

 

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So overall, the answer is certainly yes. But you will need a lot of patience. And I have seen many foreigners use this experience to turn it into a career abroad in educational ties with China. Some were sent back to China to run schools or work with Chinese embassies. 

 

Just pick very wisely.... research the school, get reviews and contact a few current/previous teachers.

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She has a kid, the answer is no. You'll never earn enough. Your kid isn't a national and therefore you'd  have pay a shit load for private schools. 

When you ask a question like this, give relevant detail.

 

Additional note, if your husband was abusive and was kicked out of the US why in the fucking world would you bring your child to where he can bother you? Looking to rekindle the drama? Be smart for your kid. Getting to know Chinese culture? BS excuse, America is full of Chinese and Chinese neighborhoods.

Stiggs:

Ted raised a really good point. Your daughter's education.

 

It's going to be expensive, out of range for an English teacher probably and would you really want your girl going to a Chinese school? ( I assume her Chinese speaking would be up to the challenge but if not it would be tough for her) There's a reason Chinese people are desperate to get their kids a foreign education.

 

 

 

 

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Then the answer is obviously.. absolutely no... kind of a huge deal changer there. 

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Add to it, your American the currency here is tanking against the dollar, what are you really looking for? Ex remarried and your jealous?

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there are so many reasons why moving to China to teach, with a 6 year old in tow, is a bad idea.

 

1) ex-husband.

2) cost of child's education

3) you would have to work full time to support the 2 of you

4) pollution levels

5) food quality problems

6) the potential abuse/unwanted attention your child would have

7) possibly even child kidnapping - either by ex or child traffickers

 

with a child, extra thought is required.

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She's fishing for drama, reminds me of a few exs

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The thing with putting down roots and living in China long term is that you live visa to visa renewal. It's hard to feel any sort of security when you know you need to reapply for a visa every year.

 

I always think every teacher in China is just one international incident away from being kicked out of the country. It doesn't even need to be an international incident, I knew a guy who was attacked, defended himself and had to leave because of it.

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Especially trying to do this now when their economy is tanking.

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Basically adding to what Stiggs said above - China used to be a good (relative term) place to come long-term... but that was then, and this is now.

 

While there are clearly some things improving in some sectors, things are getting much worse in others... and aren't likely to get much better.

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