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Q: is teaching English with a student visa considered illegal ??

10 years 2 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - Beijing

 
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Yes.

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Yes, but the Chinese govt is pushing legal teachers out in favor of illegal teachers. They're more controllable. 

ironman510:

Could you elaborate more that? Why man?

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China wants to give foreigners a bad reputation.Headlines of raids arresting illegal teachers does the trick. 

China is running out of money, and wants to curb the amount of money spent on foreign Teachers.

China wants foreigners out, we are having a bad influence on the population, they are beginning to learn the truth about the world outside of China.

Hiring a FT legally requires so much documentation that it is costly, time consuming and stressful for Schools to undertake.

 

Example, Qingdao requires proof of residency, and proof of temporary residency. If your former school refuses to hand over this document, your screwed. 

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Anything lesser than the approved documentation such as Z visa, FEC etc is illegal. The again, do what you like, just don't get caught. If you are caught, you will be deported. If that's the risk you can afford to take then it's ok.

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WOW, ok..

If all the foreigners in Beijing with part time jobs were to be arrested, then a lot of foreigners would be gone. Because a ton of us teach English, work in clubs, promote stuff, etc.. Guess we gotta be careful

Hotwater:

Well of course you've gotta be careful if you're working illegally!

 

I don't know where you are from but what are your views on foreigners working illegally in your home country?

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Speak for yourself. 

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Yes.

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i don't think having a part time job as a student would be qualified as illegal!!!come on guys!!we need to cover some expenses!!

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What you think and what the law says are two different things. Would you say the same about someone working illegally in your home country?

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Since it seems you are less looking for answers than comfort in your actions, then sure, it's perfectly legal, go ahead.

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No, if you get a permit from your school

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By Chinese law, you can work and receive salary only with Z visa/RP. 

 

Even one with Residence permit, and Contract witch stipulate (FT can work at other School, under condition FT is not late or miss classes at Prime job), my 'moonlightning' is considered illegal.

 

However, on such demand for FT in China, Gov. won't do much to prosecute 'illegal' FT, IMO.

Shining_brow:

Not true.

 

You can get paid (although not a 'salary' on a Business visa), and a student can work up to 14 hours per week.

 

 

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icnif77:

I'm behind new laws! I've never been student in China either.

I had problems with Helen, because F and I received salary for several months. I claimed, that's Contract breach! I posted here some 2 Y ago.

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Yes because you're not paying tax.  With a work visa they can keep a track on who should be paying taxes. On a student visa they assume you're just studying.  That's why in any country, you need a work visa to work.  Tax.

Shining_brow:

While I don't disagree about tax being the reason, I think you're  wrong with the other details. I think in most countries, you're allowed to do some work. while studying, to keep yourself financial. In Australia, you can work up to 20 hours a week on a student visa.

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xunliang:

Each country is different I guess.  I know Canada just made it legal to work for 20 hours.  I would still guess that it's illegal in a large number of countries. I guess I wasn't really paying attention when I wrote any country. Too early in the morning for me.

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According to Chinese law, if you have a student visa, you are allowed to work up to 14 hours per week - LEGALLY, if you have permission from the university you're attending (and, of course, meeting other student obligations - attendance, grades, etc). You'd still need to meet the other legal requirements of being able to teach English in China - ie, bachelor's degree, 2 years work experience, etc.

 

So you would have no problems working part-time.

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