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Q: Is there a group of more racist people than mainlanders?

Are you harassed everyday? Pointing at and the silly giggling (I'm not talking about genuine curiosity) are clear attempts to belittle someone, ask your Chinese friends. Granted it bothers people in different ways and levels but the intent is still there. Why do they do it, you're not Chinese. Not to mention the rude comments and sounds people make at you. How is it that China gets to escape being called racist?

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Yes, groups like the KKK spring to mind as an example. They hate people purely because of skin color and take pleasure in tormenting others because of it.

 

I get what you're saying.. the harassment, stupid comments, hooollooooows etc but I've come to think it's not so much racist (or not all of it at least , there still is some of that though) as a combination of crude childish humor, the need to impress others and a complete lack of empathy for others.

 

Think of kids at school pointing and laughing at the new kid in the class because he has glasses or is crying on his first day at the new school or something, then looking around the class to see if everyone is laughing with them. They don't hate the new kid because he's new,in fact they'll probably be good friends by the end of the week, they're just showing off to their friends and are too young to think how he must feel.

 

That's how I think of the pointing, childish giggling etc. It's just immature people with absolutely no empathy for others trying to impress their friends by making fun of someone who stands out as being different, but at least it's usually not malicious.

 

I do agree there is racism, I just don't see the catcalling and finger pointing as necessarily being examples of it. Once I started thinking in those terms I was a lot less bothered by the stupid crap.

 

 

Hotwater:

Spot on, groups like the KKK, Stormfront, National Front, etc are  outright racist. The majority of Chinese people are uneducated when it comes to outsiders (baiscally non-Han Chinese)

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Harassing someone purposefully is not racist?

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I dunno, I just see it more as being immature idiots than actual devoted racism.

 

I admit the line can be a fine one sometimes though.

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Yes, groups like the KKK spring to mind as an example. They hate people purely because of skin color and take pleasure in tormenting others because of it.

 

I get what you're saying.. the harassment, stupid comments, hooollooooows etc but I've come to think it's not so much racist (or not all of it at least , there still is some of that though) as a combination of crude childish humor, the need to impress others and a complete lack of empathy for others.

 

Think of kids at school pointing and laughing at the new kid in the class because he has glasses or is crying on his first day at the new school or something, then looking around the class to see if everyone is laughing with them. They don't hate the new kid because he's new,in fact they'll probably be good friends by the end of the week, they're just showing off to their friends and are too young to think how he must feel.

 

That's how I think of the pointing, childish giggling etc. It's just immature people with absolutely no empathy for others trying to impress their friends by making fun of someone who stands out as being different, but at least it's usually not malicious.

 

I do agree there is racism, I just don't see the catcalling and finger pointing as necessarily being examples of it. Once I started thinking in those terms I was a lot less bothered by the stupid crap.

 

 

Hotwater:

Spot on, groups like the KKK, Stormfront, National Front, etc are  outright racist. The majority of Chinese people are uneducated when it comes to outsiders (baiscally non-Han Chinese)

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Harassing someone purposefully is not racist?

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I dunno, I just see it more as being immature idiots than actual devoted racism.

 

I admit the line can be a fine one sometimes though.

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The dumb ones are a minority, it's just that China has so many people so that minority is everywhere.

You know, feel free to mock or insult them in return. I call them all sorts of names in Chinese and I take great pleasure when they get angry at it.

Call me a White devil while pointing to me? I will call you a Yellow devil and laugh into your face. I'm twice as large and 2 heads taller, whatcha gonna do about it?

Have fun and don't be afraid to talk or curse back at them.

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Pot, kettle, black? What a pity i can only downvote this ignorant diatribe once. You really need to get out more.

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It's not good to do this to the silly ones. It only makes you angry and more silly.

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Hopelessly immature. Accidentally racist.
Any display of intuitive consideration is a sign of intelligence, which many people see as a threat. Given that China had a big witch hunt against elites, displaying your smarts is about as safe as a black slave telling his master he can read.

In the West, multicultural society has taught even the sensors to grasp basic intuition in interaction. We are more polite. We come to China expecting this is normal, but we forget China's recent history. There is no rationalizing the stares; they remain annoying. But we can try to understand why.

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I'm not talking about stares, I'm talking about harassment

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Harassment by coworkers or boss is a difficukt matter, and I wouldn't know how to deal with that. But strangers on the street is easy as cake. My most effective counter was responding with "harrao, HAAAARAAAOO!" in an exaggerated spastic/goofy tone. They are set aback, unsure how to respond to a subtle mockery of their bad English accent. The insult is swift, potent, hard to misunderstand or ignore, and exactly on their level.

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Racism is mickey mouse if you really understand what goes on in mainlanders' psyche.

 

Yes, racism is certainly there. This is a "fine legacy" from historical china. What does Zhong Guo (china) mean? Zhong means middle, Guo means country. This is what they call themselves, not "china" which is the current english name known by the world.

 

What does this chinese name tell you? It means they regard themselves as the center of everything. What is beyond them? Barbaric, lowly evolved, inferior people.  Who are these inferior people, the rest of the world, whites, blacks, and anything in between short of the yellow (themselves).  Is that racist enough?   It beats those racists who target only one skin color hands down!!! 

 

So the answer to your question is:  No, no other countries/races can beat the Chinese when it comes to racism.  So here goes another No.1 for Zhong Guo (China).   Hitler is mickey mouse compare to emperors of china in the past when it comes to racism. Same with the people!

 

But you need training whatever "ism" you buy, real life training. Even those fly planes into the twin towers need to take flying lessons, so where do all those "people" who hurl insulting remarks at you practice their kung fu? They get to you, don't they? If you understand putonghu and can communicate with them, boy are they happy --- NOW you get the FULL impact.

 

The photo below shows where they acquire their "kung fu". For 10 full years, no school but plenty of meetings, almost every night, they gather together to discuss (no secret, open meetings) skining the capitalists, how to humiliate them till they commit suicide, where in the psyche do verbal blows hurt the most.....etc. Went home, had a good night sleep. Sunrise, slaughter time, first by words, then by axe.  10 full years!!!  If it were you, what do you think you would become?  The equivalent of Seal plus CIA plus MI6 plus ISIS ..... put together!

 

So, give yourself a pat on the back if you can't block a blow or two, either from them who are now in their 50s, or their children who are in their 20s-30s, even their grandkids who are still learning from them!   These are Master terrorists with 10 full years of on the job training and killing!  Check out the death tolls of the so-called cultural revolution, the worst genocide of the 20th century. You think Mao killed those people one by one himself? Do the math, see the average no. of death per day. 

 

You know why they laugh at some westerners' saying, "those morons are so @#$#@ naive"? They are right, you don't even know what you are dealing with! You still cook up all kinds of excuses for them when they nail you to the cross!   Yeah, right, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing. Hear them laughing? Their enemies are cooking up excuses for them so they can continue their attacks. To be fair, if you are on their side, wouldn't you​ be laughing too?

 

Racism as the backbone, communism as the bloody training ground for physical violence and formulation of twisted arguements to deny responsibilites with childish arguements ("you made me do it"), poverty based jealousy and hatred as inexhaustible fuel. Who can beat this group of "people" and take their No. 1 place, counting backward?

 

 

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This one, as usual was mentally tortured first, then thrown out of the balcony from the third floor. Plenty more photos : http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/through-a-thwarted-cinematographers-eye-chinas-cultural-revolution/?_r=0

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They get away with it because if we pull them up for racist type behaviour, we get accused of being racists!

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There also are a few brainwashed laowai communists here to help them out......

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I don't know, they obviously know it is wrong because they don't blatantly do it to each other... unless the other Chinese person is running around in a bikini. 

 

The average Chinese person is not very bright and very easily stimulated... they are quick to get emotional... Emotions cloud judgment and this usually causes their behavior. 

 

They see another Chinese, no stimulation. Some do harass foreigners thinking they outnumber them and have an inferiority complex. They are angry cause foreigners normally make more, generally get better treatment and have much more success with women. It is quite easy to tell the difference between these two lots as both exude emotion of a different type through their body language and tones. 

 

The first group, I wouldn't say are racist... they are just immature, foolish, excitable. The second group is certainly racist. Both cases are wrong but I wouldn't respond to or treat both cases the same. 

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I was talking to an Ethiopian guy a few weeks ago about his experiences in a very small town in Russia. People would yell things at him weekly , mainly joking with their friends anf not violent or threatening like 'you must be lost!' or (my personal favorite) we don't like Indian food so don';t open a restaurant here'.

Would you call them racist?

Stiggs:

Maybe, I don't know.

 

A good friend of mine  - not Caucasian if that makes a difference - went through a phase where he'd often call me Honky ( am I allowed to say that?). No offence was intended or taken but it could be argued he was being racist. Is it racist?

 

If I go into the woods and scream I hate ... {insert ethnic slur here} but there is nobody there to hear it, is that racist?

 

Honestly man, there are so many 'what ifs' with these racist questions and does it even really matter?

 

The way I see it is.. if someone makes a crude, non PC joke in very poor taste but his intentions are mostly good then I don't care. If he comes up to me with an attitude and calls me sir while sneering and obviously looking for trouble then I might get pissed off.

 

It's all in the intent behind what is said.

 

Sometimes though, people will decide they want to belittle someone and will seize on any opportunity to do that.

Are you fat, thin, ugly, smelly,gay,short, tall or from another ethnic group or do you have carroty red hair, bad acne, knobbly knees, a strange accent, a stutter, a lisp, a bald spot, one eyebrow, a huge nose... better brace yourself cos you know what's coming.

 

Assholes are assholes and just because they use your race against you it doesn't necessarily make them racists in my book, and even if they are racist they're still assholes so who cares what they think.

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Stiggs, you strike me as a genuinely goodhearted person that tries to always see the good in people. I'm not gonna pursue this further

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'Southern Man' by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, '4-Way Street', 1971 on me i-Tunes .... I like Young's guitar solo more than lyrics ...angel

 

Here we go ....

 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/21/i-went-back-to-china-and-felt-more-a...

 

On Oct. 9, New York Times metro reporter Michael Luo revealed that he and his family had been subject to a racist outburst on the streets of New York City’s posh Upper East Side. Readers, especially of Asian descent, were quick to volunteer their own stories in the aftermath, showing that while racism against Asians is not always in the U.S. public eye, it is widespread. I’d like to address this article to the woman who told the U.S.-born Luo — and, to all those who may have harbored similar sentiments at one point or another — to “go back to China.”

My parents left China in the wake of Mao’s Cultural Revolution to seek refuge in American higher education in the 1970s, eventually becoming entrepreneurs. I was born in Ohio, raised in Nebraska and California, and attended Yale University in Connecticut. Six years before that woman on the streets of New York told Luo to go back to China, I had already done so. After graduating college, I moved to Hong Kong, a port city that has been the West’s gateway to China since the mid-1800s.

I believed the city, a place brutalized and molded by colonial forces before its return to China in 1997, was somehow like me: an East-meets-West pastiche. I also believed that Hong Kong, more multicultural, global, and outward-looking than any mainland city, was likely to be the most racially enlightened. But over six years of living and working there, I would learn just how racially progressive the United States was by comparison. It’s not just because anyone can speak up and defend themselves, but because doing so is embedded in our culture.

Growing up in Nebraska, I was “ching-chong’d” in school and asked why my eyes were so small. Later on, popular kids would compel me to do their homework with overtures of friendship, only to ignore me at recess. Even in relatively liberal California, I was bullied and shut out by the girls in my all-white Girl Scout troupe. My early life in white, Christian America impressed upon me the notion that my real friends, my real home, was where my parents had left it — back in China.

In college, I devoted myself to the notion. I holed myself up exclusively in Asian cultural clubs and worked to beef up my half-hearted, lisping Mandarin Chinese. I took classes in Chinese philosophy, sociology, and politics. Internships in Beijing and Shanghai and travels around the Mainland gave me a glimpse of what my new home would be like. After graduation, I secured a job in Hong Kong.

My mother, who had moved from Shanghai to Hong Kong to the United States, was distraught. “Why do you want to go back there?”

But much, I insisted, had changed. The mainland wasn’t the Mao-era hot mess she’d left behind; the 2008 Beijing Olympics painted a glorious image of a new Middle Kingdom, and Lehman Brothers’ collapse that same summer foretold an ominous future for the United States. Out in the dizzying economic rise of the Wild Wild East, opportunities abounded for those willing to work in a globalizing China, particularly in Hong Kong, which billed itself as “Asia’s World City” and was also deepening ties with the mainland.

What I didn’t tell my mother was that my desire to leave was primarily motivated by the possibility of escaping the unfriendly U.S. racial climate. In Asia, I wouldn’t have to deal with being “Asian.” I wouldn’t be a minority, much less a model one. For once, I was certain, my race wouldn’t matter.

I moved to Hong Kong in 2010 to work for a multinational education company and cast myself with a privileged lot of expatriates, huayi — ethnic Chinese who have grown up abroad. It was deeply comforting to be surrounded by people who looked like me. And because I spoke perfect English and had attended an Ivy League university, my social currency in status-conscious Hong Kong went further than most. I was not just able to “blend in” — I was privileged. I was heard, respected, and invited to glittering parties. Those first years in Hong Kong were beautiful, and easy.

But eventually, my conscience began to gnaw at me. At work, invisible walls divided colleagues by skin color. White managers who had worked all their lives in Asia sometimes looked surprised when I spoke up in perfect English to volunteer my opinion — a small thing, but revealing. A few seats away from my desk sat Filipino colleagues, often ignored or greeted with terse, awkward smiles when they tried to make conversation. I saw a Pakistani colleague of mine held at arm’s length during team happy hours, lonesome with his glass of wine while his colleagues buzzed around him. A Sri Lankan friend of mine working in investment banking cried when she was passed over for a raise once again.

The city’s thorny relationship with race was even more obvious outside of work. I remember dining with an Indian companion and being thoroughly ignored by the waitstaff, even beyond the standards of usually brusque Hong Kong service. Locals regularly complained to me about being paid less than their expat counterparts. And on the city’s streets, images of hapa women, men, and babies — half-white, half-Asian — were featured prominently on billboard ads, the city’s aspiration to whiteness hiding in plain sight.

Hong Kong is also home to hundreds of thousands of Filipino and Indonesian domestic helpers — 320,000, as of 2013. On Sundays, their day off, Hong Kong’s otherwise mostly hidden domestic helpers swarm public parks, much to the chagrin of locals who I’d hear complain of what they saw as their parks being “overrun.” Helpers who have served Hong Kong families loyally for decades cannot become permanent residents, dependent instead on a work visa that could be stripped from them at any moment. The 2016 Global Slavery Index compiled by Australia-based NGO Walk Free Foundation, which tracks government action on forced labor, human trafficking, and other conditions of modern slavery, ranked Hong Kong’s government in the bottom 5 percent worldwide. Reports surface regularly about domestic workers being beaten or sexually abused by their employers. These people served me cocktails, cooked the food I ate, bussed my plates without a sound, painted my nails, massaged me, and cleaned my apartment. “That’s just capitalism,” my erudite friends would say, but I couldn’t shake the truth that my privilege floated on cheap Southeast Asian labor and the diminished social position they occupied.

With each year that passed, I became increasingly aware of the morally fragile foundations of the lifestyle I enjoyed. I had believed that spiriting myself to Hong Kong would mean that I wouldn’t have to face racial discrimination anymore. Bewitched by the possibility of transcending the racial totem pole, I only later realized that I had merely relocated to the top, and the view wasn’t what I expected. Being brought up in the United States meant my standards for racial equality were forged in a culture built around the dissent, dialogue, and disruption that the First Amendment vouchsafes.

It was only after six years in Hong Kong that I began to understand why people leave their countries to come to the United States, and why it’s so difficult to repatriate. You can’t unlearn what you’ve learned or unsee what you’ve seen. Neither could I unlearn the promises of equality that I’d repeated every time I took the Pledge of Allegiance.

I had been running away for a long time. I had run away from being a “victim” of American racism to become part of the perpetrating class in Hong Kong. I had hid from the yellow face in the mirror and pretended, with my perfect English and my elite education, that I was someone else. I had tried to “go back to China,” only to find myself more American than I’d realized. But I’m not running away anymore. I’ve found that my “home” isn’t limited to a physical place. It’s not in Hong Kong, China, or the United States. It’s in the people I love and the work that needs doing. It’s in the values I hold that grow and change over time.

So, to all those who have ever wanted people like me to “go back” to China: My home is on a bridge as short as a hyphen and as wide as the Pacific Ocean. My home is an in-between place, as it is for all Americans who remember their roots, their history,  and the journey that got them here. My home is a compromise; a discussion; a negotiation.

With you.

I can read, can I?

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How often?

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'You reap what you sow' or 'Galatians 6:7-9'

'IN GOD WE TRUST' as US$ note 'says' ----> and I say: 'Nation of HYPOCRITES!'  surprise

 

At least, you feel a bit the same in China, what non-'white'& non-'mericans feel in USA, you stinky mastard! 

 

Nothing personal (toward-ur-teats), but that's who you are!

Pure scum for somebody, who isn't 'merican as moi!

 

You fukin' fat-ass-stinky-bubble-chewin'-gums!

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"-->The lyrics of 'Southern Man' are vivid, describing the racism towards blacks in the American South. In the song, Young tells the story of a white man (symbolically the entire white South) and how he mistreated his slaves. Young pleadingly asks when the South will make amends for the fortunes built through slavery when he sings, "I saw cotton and I saw black, tall white mansions and little shacks. Southern Man, when will you pay them back?" The song also mentions the practice of cross burning.

Young was very sensitive about the song's message as anti-racism and anti-violence. During his 1973 tour, he cancelled a show in Oakland, California because a fan was beaten and removed from the stage by a guard while the song was played.<--"

" .... you can't be moralising toward anybody, not even toward the stinky rats.

It's easier, if you think, you're making an 'amends'.....in China.

Call for help, cause 'I can EAT you with my nose pinched to avoid the taste ....'

Nighty night!"

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I was having a great meal tonight with friends, white friends, in a GZ foreign bubble area. We were eating 200rmb steaks, and drinking 60 RMB beers

 

A black guy walked in. He was with a very very fat American female, mega fat. He was very black. There was also a stunning Chinese female.

 

When this group walked in, our group fell silent. Not because of the composition of the group that walked in, but because we all knew that  particular member of our group would make a comment.

 

And he did. He leaned over to my wife, and he asked her what Chinese people think of black people.

 

I face palmed.

 

That guy heard the whispered word "black". " look... black guy". " does he have a big dick?"

 

I wanted to slap my mate on the head. And to be honest, looking back, I should have kicked him in the head.

 

I don't know how to explain it. 

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Whites were first on the Moon, I think!

 

It looks, they are still there!

They might forgot to come down ....!

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Icnif aren't you white? Aren't you some kind of ruddy-cheeked, pineapple-browed Moravian? Come on you want to talk about atrocities maybe you should look in your own history.

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I look on web, where's Moravia .

No, I have never been to Czech Republic. You?

 

We are all humans, primates, so your Q 'where do you come from?' certainly comes from 'still-up-from-the-tree'.

You remained in tree leaves  ... ? Why's that?

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I hold passport of very small, tiny EU country and we didn't commit any atrocities, ever! My mom's neighbour is black African, married to resident of my country, and nobody bothers, because he isn't white. You should see him shovelling the snow in winter....LOL.

He or anybody else is HUMAN! Ming bai? It isn't philosophy ....

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I caught a bus into town this morning and there was a little lad of about seven to ten years of age sat with his mother about four rows back from me. Because of the configuration of the seats on the bus, we were facing each other. When I took my seat, I heard the lad say to his mother "waiguoren".

 

What I found more interesting was the conversation that ensued between the boy and his mother. The boy obviously assumed, as they usually do, that because I was a foreign national, I would not be able to understand what he was saying.

 

Basically, he went through a list of nationalities and races using the standard xenophobic stereotypes that some of the uneducated peasants use here. His mother far from discouraging the tone of his conversation, just laughed along and agreed.

 

I just pondered who it is that fills their heads with this stuff and is such xenophobia propagated in the heads of most children here? I think it's going to be a long time before these people have tolerance for other races and cultures.

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Parents and grandparents, the tele and schools fill their heads with this bullshit. And because no once ever questions it because of fear to be labeled a race traitor and to be excluded from the group, it keeps on going. I am German, obviously not a native speaker of English, yet people here refuse to acknowledge that greeting me with nihao is just about the same as greeting me with hello, both being foreign languages to me. Talking to me in Mandarin (in which I am fluent and no one has troubles understanding me) is just about the same as talking to me in English. Yet they insist on using English even though their English sucks ass compared to my Mandarin. It's a pain in the ass for both of us since it makes communication more difficult than necessary. They first stereotype every non-Chinese, lumping us in the same big "Foreigner" bag. Then when it comes to individual nationalities they stereotype to the max. Germans are rude? Holy hell this is funny coming from Chinese who probably are the rudest people in the entire world, and I talk from experience (unlike them who never stepped a foot in Germany). Well usually I'm just American. Because all White people are American, are we?

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I think it is a big problem that children are being made to follow such unfair stereotypes, but I am hardly ever offended by the children. I can remember myself when I was 3 years old. I grew up in a white neighborhood and there was only one black family there. Head of the family would pass by from time to time and try to talk to me when I was out with my parents, but I got scared whenever I saw him-not because my parents told me any bad things about black people, but he was so different from the other people I knew. It took me some time to understand that he is no way different from other people I know. So whenever I see Chinese children myself  and if I am in a good mood I would try talking to them, sometimes even by saying ni hao, or hi you can make them happy. Sometimes it makes children saying some bad comments about you shy as if they were surprised that you are also a human being-same as them. You fear or ridicule things you don't know. If you relate a foreigner with some strange shushu on a subway who asked you some questions and was being nice to you, you can change your opinion even if you are 5 or 6 years old. 

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I was going to say KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, Nation Of Islam, Black Nationalists, White Nationalists, etc., like everyone else, but consider that many of these are openly racist. The KKK acknowledges they are a racist group that holds one race superior. How many Mainland Chinese have you met who accept that racism even exists in China?

They'll refuse to hire black people. They'll physically assault white people (as long as they are with enough friends) for such infractions as being with a girl who "looks Chinese", or being in the wrong country. They'll just take for granted that China belongs to yellow people, and any other race can never be really Chinese, or be fully accepted (and this applies to minority groups who hold Chinese citizenship). And they'll do all this without even considering it to be racist.

Mainland Chinese perhaps aren't the most willfully racist, but there's a huge amount of racism that is in the undercurrent, never acknowledged.

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Don't dismiss the harrassment, it is lays the tinder to spark violence.  

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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I saw racism tonight. Not nice. It was directed against my daughter. Kid on kid stuff. No big deal, they will be educated and grow out of it.

Problem is, at the moment, the adults join in.

This is not a China specific problem. And no matter what your own political bent is, nobody should be encouraging their kids to do the same.

I hate racism with a vengeance. And when you see your own kid being picked out because she is different, it is heart wrenching. Heart breaking.

And as I have said before, deep down I am racist. I am a product of my generation. It was ingrained in me by my father. By the culture of that time. Alf Garnet and all that (one for the Brits)

It needs to stop.

And we are the people who can work to stop it. We are educated. We can confront our own racism, see it as it is, indoctrination.

Left, right and middle should work together on this.

I should not have to console a crying daughter who is crying because someone said she looks different. It's not her fault.

A paradigm shift is required. And we should lead it. We are the educated who believe in equality and democracy. Lead by example. Please.

Englteachted:

No opne is talking about kids!!! Except that whining article Icinif posted. Kids are kids.

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Yup. Kids are kids. 100% agree. But as parents, its our job to educate them to be better than us. I dont want a clone. I want someone who is happy. Smiles per hour because of what they do, not gloating over failure defined by colour of skin. Jeb bush had a lot to say about this, but trump said he was low energy. Rand Paul was good too. I like rand Paul.

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I have to say Chinese are racist without actually knowing or trying to be racist, this isn't a country that went through a Martin Luther King event. No, they never have nor will they have any chance to go through it, so lets cut them a little tiny slack for being ignorant to a touchy issue like this.

I can sum it up this way: Oh Lord please forgive the Chinese for peeing in public for they know not where the nearest bathroom is also forgive them for not being educated in the ways of manners, this includes race.

RandomGuy:

I disagree, they know very well what is racist and what isn't. If you as a Foreigner say anything stupidly racist about Han people, "oh, Chinese guys have small dicks" , holy hell brace for impact because they will come down to you on it and be grateful that they don't mob unto you. China has different classes of people, and while I will forgive the uneducated migrants for saying some racist shit, I will not ever forgive urban youth or the white collar types. If people who were born and educated in big cities say or do some racist stuff to me, I will publicly shame them out on it if necessary.

7 years 21 weeks ago
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Chinese don't know, what means 'racist'! They lived among themselves for centuries. That's where call 'laowai' comes from. We are an attraction to them. How many of your 'laowai' callers have Uni degree? You're most likely dealing with 'peasants-spiritual and real ones'.

You can't stick that in the same drawer as 'nigga' or 'chink' and similar.

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sure the KKK,, Neo-Nazis,and the white elite of Mexico City.

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Been here over ten years. If this is racism, then I don't know what blacks have been complaining about all these years, racism isn't so bad. I wish everyone was racist. My point is, have you considered the possibility that maybe you're just a whiney little fag who wouldn't know real racism if it came up and sucked you on the balls? Food for thought.

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How dare I not accept being harassed. 

7 years 21 weeks ago
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The staring is a pain in the arse, but otherwise I find people pretty much cool as fuck. My Chinese is good enough to pick up on rudeness, and on the whole it's just not there.On the contrary, I hear far more things that are complimentary. They call my kids little brother and shit, I mean, I could whinge and complain about a tonne of stuff, but I'd be a fool to myself to do so because in my experience the good far outweighs the bad. By the way, sorry for being rude. A bit abrasive when I beer.

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                                          Beijing restaurant

 

 

 

Englteachted:

Wait Wait Wait, we're supposed to like the Philippines now.

7 years 21 weeks ago
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earthizen:

Right, right, right, Great Leap Forward...made in China !

 

 

The whole world witness how far we leap under the great leadership of our STRONG CCP ! We even leap into space! We are strong! We are No.1! Who dare stand in our way?!

 

 

These lowly evolved laowais steal our copyright. They make fakes. They steal our money!  We go rob them! We original !!! 

 

 

 

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Englteachted:

TBH, I don't count that as racist, it's not harassing me. And lets me know clearly where I'm not wanted.  I actually prefer that. 

I  once went to a restaurant where they were giving me evil stares while giving group attention to my order. I ended up just throwing it away while walking  back home

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It is all about the nasty side of the ego. Racism is one of the many forms of aggression. That evil look is very common in PRC. One look you know the person is a living hell, and not just living in hell. You did the smart thing by leaving that restaurant right away, Clear and Present Danger (movie)! Who cares if it is racism or jealousy or whatnot, get the hell out.

 

If you want to know a bit more about what is going on with these zombies, despite its length this is the article to read. Bear in mind, how long does brainwashing last? Frequently a lifetime.  Many mainlanders' behaviors will make sense to you as you read the dialogue (after the synopsis). http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/Congress.htm

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