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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: Is there a way to get around paying the estate agent fees?
I've had some really bad experiences with estate agents here and next time I move i really don't want to have to give them any money. Do you have any tips for avoiding them?
Use the Internet to source apartments. Don't fall for their usual tripe, "This is how it's done in China."
Decide for yourself what you're willing to pay and other terms. Sometimes you can't avoid agents but at least you can have some control over the terms.
humbug:
Yeah, it's frustrating though because it's hard to tell the difference between landlords' posts and agents'.
Yeah those guys are almost always total hacks from the countryside who didn't finish high school.
I sympathize, it can be really frustrating to try and find a decent place. If they just put 2 seconds worth of effort into looking for your requirements you could find a decent place in no time given the shockingly low occupancy rate of apartments here.
I think that because the lifestyle floor is so low and the wealth gap so wide you don't tend to get talented people who are happy with relatively lower paying jobs...if you have the talent/background to make more money you pretty much always see people take that route.
Ditto the education industry here, but to a lesser extent. There is a reason that the EFL industry (on the chinese side) is full of such amateur hour companies, useless managers and shady people. If a local person is good at things...they don't work in EFL, they work in whatever industry has the prestige/pay to match their talent/connections. There aren't enough genuinely smart, capable people to go around to industries seen as lower paying/less prestigious so the ones who exist congregate in the top fields (to help cover for the connections hires!)
I've heard a couple of times people finding a place through an agent, then paying the person directly, but a lower sum, so the agency doesn't get their cut and tenant and landlord gets off slightly cheaper.
expatlife26:
Yeah but that's pretty shady too.
As much as I find dealing with agents frustrating...if they find me a good place they did their job and deserve their cut.
Not right to just cut them out when they DID do something well.
Scandinavian:
I agree. The agent who found our place did earn his share. He had to do a lot of running around, and after signing the lease he helped hook us up with mineral water delivery, gas, tv, internet, and a quick tour of the hood.
humbug:
I tried this with my current landlady and she refused because she was scared of the reaction of the estate agent. I managed to bargain the fee down to half because he did absolutely nothing.