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After the trump mistake it will force America to confront our screwed up system
7 years 26 weeks ago in Family & Kids - China
"He'll hit Mexico with a 35% tarriff..he' got Michigan in the bag."
Thirty years ago maybe, but the state doesn't look like that anymore.
He'll lose Michigan. Here's why: the GOP voters on the west side of the state are too moderate for him. Trust me, I grew up in Grand Rapids. Remember that these are the people that were/are represented by Jerry Ford, Pete Hoekstra and Justin Amash. Conservatives to be sure but not fire breathers. Also many of them are Amway employees (not the sellers but the people that manufacture the product) the anti-free trade stuff is kind of a turn off. Trump will win Kent and Lake Counties, but he'll tie or lose up around Grand Traverse, which he would need to win. All of those will be with low turnout. Whats left in the northern have of the Lower Pennisula, the UP, and the thumb aren't enough to off set the drumming he'll take in Genesse, Ingham, Wanye, Wastenaw and Macomb county. High victory margins in Detroit, Flint, Lansing and Ann Arbor will hand the state to Clinton.
mattsm84:
West Michigan turned out for him. That's all there was too it
RiriRiri:
Pwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. So yeah there's that.
Stop s-talking (to) yourself!
icnif77:
Hillary Cleared As FBI Folds Again: Comey Says "No New Conclusions" After Clinton Email Review
mattsm84:
And another Clinton scandal comes to a close with nothing actionable discovered. I look forward to discussing the horrible corruption of the Clinton family when congress appoints a special prosecutor to investigate the people that do the Clinton's dry cleaning and Sock's vet next January. Cya then!
icnif77:
No reasonable prosecutor...
By Karl Denninger, 2016-11-06 17:17
.... would bring charges for someone allowing their uncleared, foreign national maid to have access to classified material, including the Presidential Daily Briefing (which is Top Secret), on a daily basis. ---- James Comey, FBI Director.
That's not a joke, folks. It is in fact exactly what James Comey has now said -- twice. First on National TV, and now again in print.
Read here: our Constitutional Republic is truly dead and the FBI is no longer a law enforcement agency.
It is merely a gun-toting gang that forces the people, under pain of being murdered, to allow blatant and outrageous abuses of the law to be committed by certain privileged individuals -- including Hillary Clinton. Every single one of the 35,000+ FBI employees has confirmed through their action or inaction, this fact.
It is finished.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231616
mattsm84:
Well, it hasn't been overnight. Its been a week. And the FBI has a lot of manpower at its disposal. The rest of that is just bitter, salty tears.
By Americans you mean rural white voters?
cub:
@mattsm84 i hope that was a sarcasim from u, other wise its a very racist PC remark the very left liberal corrupt media is using to DIVIDE america just for more ratings
Hotwater:
Nothing racist about his comment Cub. Rural white voters have lost a lot over decades when their single indicted factories got moved overseas (China or Mexico) & they are struggling. They see cities doing okay under the metropolitan elites while their kids have no hope and a fucked American dream.
Englteachted:
This from Michael Moore, when Trump stood in front of the Ford's offices and gave a speech saying if you close anymore factories and move them to Mexico, that he was gonna hit them with a 35% tariff. He got Michigan in the bag.
A Trump supporter on Real time, trying to stain Trump and lift up Hilary , part of the crap she was spewing was that many illegals will become legal, most Americans don't want that and it's a big deal to them. They casually try to slip things like this in but Americans are sick of the pandering to illegals.
Trump says the things that Americans have been waiting to hear for decades. Americans that lost their jobs when Bill signed jobs over to China. They don't see him as the Delusional maniac he is. He to them is simply not a politician.
mattsm84:
Come back Wednesday, I'll post some information on which demographic groups voted for which candidate.
Englteachted:
I hope to god you're right. Hilary, sadly, is the better option of the 2.
Stiggs:
Yeah I think Hillary is the better option too, but this election still feels like watching a bomb fall and wondering if it's better that it hits the school or the hospital. Either way it's going to suck for a lot of people.
mattsm84:
Cub, in the future please try to finish all ramblings of this type with the phrase "wake up, sheeple!" so the rest of us can know just to gloss over it.
Really, what you should be doing is posting in a style more like icnif77. Make more spelling and grammar errors so that we know to reflexively question your ability to formulate thoughts. And remember to back up your opinion by citing with some rag publication. Make sure that it issues a lot of blanket pronouncements about what is going to happen. If at all possible make sure the events described in those pronouncements never occur. When other's mention it to you, blithely ignore them.
You'll notice icnif uses zerohedge. This is a great example. Its articles are written by a fictional character. It uses bold for no discernable reason. Its wrong more often than a broken clock. Its really the gold standard for being a kook, which I think is what you're going for here. Now, that doesn't mean you should only use zerohedge. The Daily Mail, Infowars, Brietbart, Global research, New Max, all of them are sufficiently bonkers. As a rule of thumb ask yourself if this is something a racist older relative would post to their Facebook wall to show how very concerned about it they are.
icnif77:
@matt: ZeroHedge uses fictional character to protect identity of real bloggers, who want to stay anon. If blog-man doesn't have desire to be covered, blog/article is signed with full name or it's c&p from elsewhere.
That's all it is in 'fictional character'. It is the traders web site ('no hedge'= truth!) and 'Durden' is on the ball. Why '0H' would have more than 100k views a day, if everything is so fictional?
I can read about most likely Rmb devaluation sometimes a week ahead of time. I am not active on EX's, but I did exchange Rmb several times to foreign currency (US$, UK-Pound&Eur) few days before devaluation happened.
I follow spot Gold on me puter and all technical alerts are posted in tune few days ahead of time.
Shining_brow:
"Make more spelling and grammar errors so that we know to reflexively question your ability to formulate thoughts."
I disagree! I think cub does an excellent job already to make us reflexively question his ability to formulate thoughts... his lack of punctuation, the long stream of adjectives and nouns or verbs - and thus ends up being fairly meaningless.
If he starts making spelling and grammar issues, we'll probably just think he's a NNES - which is fine! I'd like to think that most of us would read through such things to see the coherence and intelligence (even if we disagree -as you do with Icnif all the time).
Granted, writing in code that you're the only person who understands it would help. And he does an awesome job of misreading most things written to challenge his ideas.
cub:
come on hot, i have seen heard the phrase ''white angry men'' from liberals and demoncrats and the media as if the ''white'' race in america was the problem and the most racist because they are not a PC crowd But u are right, white americans are tired of being blamed shamed labeled as racists bigots and are labeled the problem. The best way to 'change a country founded and built by mostly WHITE people at the beginning making it great is to flood it with other races and faiths that want everything free never obey the laws follow the USA rules turning USA into a 3rd country sewer
cub:
@shinning and mattsm84. BIG DEAL about punctuation this is not grammar school and BTW u seem to have no trouble reading my posts without any trouble, so stop deflecting away from the subject! Hellery, demoncrap and liberals do that all the time to distract do damage control. If u cant take the heat get out of the kitchen! If u cant take the truth then stop lying and attacking others here!
"He'll hit Mexico with a 35% tarriff..he' got Michigan in the bag."
Thirty years ago maybe, but the state doesn't look like that anymore.
He'll lose Michigan. Here's why: the GOP voters on the west side of the state are too moderate for him. Trust me, I grew up in Grand Rapids. Remember that these are the people that were/are represented by Jerry Ford, Pete Hoekstra and Justin Amash. Conservatives to be sure but not fire breathers. Also many of them are Amway employees (not the sellers but the people that manufacture the product) the anti-free trade stuff is kind of a turn off. Trump will win Kent and Lake Counties, but he'll tie or lose up around Grand Traverse, which he would need to win. All of those will be with low turnout. Whats left in the northern have of the Lower Pennisula, the UP, and the thumb aren't enough to off set the drumming he'll take in Genesse, Ingham, Wanye, Wastenaw and Macomb county. High victory margins in Detroit, Flint, Lansing and Ann Arbor will hand the state to Clinton.
mattsm84:
West Michigan turned out for him. That's all there was too it
RiriRiri:
Pwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. So yeah there's that.
Hilary lost Ohio and Fla, she's done. I can't believe this is real
This chart tells the whole story of the night: Trump - the massive underdog - appears to have pulled off precisely what he promised to do: Brexit times 10, having won virtually every key battleground state including Ohio, North Carolina and moments ago, Florida.
The latest electoral map:
icnif77:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/markets-crash-peso-plunges-record-low-trump-looks-likely-winner
US equities are down almost 5% from the close... (S&P -100, Dow -700, Nasdaq -200)
Bloodbath on the markets ...
ambivalentmace:
yes, i shorted everything today, now i can buy that 50 year scotch bottle before retired in china can get his hands on it, thank you Donald Trump.
icnif77:
Huge 'up' (US$65) on spot Gold & quick 'down' back to US$1300 level in few hours time.
Spot Gold's acting like penny stock.
retiredinchina:
ambi, sorry i got the bottle yesterday, when i finish it, i can send you the bottle for a decoration. I plan on drinking it on inauguration day, i went back to america and campaigned for him, so i deserve the bottle.
You can watch LIVE here, all CBS apps also work great in China, no VPN needed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/presidential-election-2016-results-live-upda...
expatlife26:
thats true CBS news is the only thing that works on my apple TV without a VPN or DNS.
The American people are sending a strong message when it comes to immigration especially illegals. And on trade deals that send jobs away.
been listening to the radio most of the day ......Thanks America,I haven't laughed so much in a long time .
Oh and apparently the Canadian Government web site re migration has crashed due the amount of people from the USA wanting information....lol
Could it be that we really were lied to be the media about the polling data to make it look like a clinton landslide?
Englteachted:
Sliverman and a couple of other indictors predicted a Trump win. Silverman was attacked by a big name news station that predicted a Hilary win in a landslide.
RiriRiri:
We've been calling that since forever. Seriously. Same thing with Brexit.
retiredinchina:
the dumbasses never figured out that since polls show the public does not trust the media that the voters would lie about who they voted for to screw the exit polls, and if you are going to be ridiculed for being a trump supporter, its easier to lie and avoid the confrontation. you don't trust us , the objective open minded press, why?
Citizens of western countries are sending a strong message against immigration and outsourcing jobs, Dem didn't listen. To the end they kept attacking Trump as being a deporter but they were too stupid to realize that's exactly what Americans want. Americans don't want illegals to be legalized. I hope Trump follows through on deporting illegals and instituting fair trade deals.
Englteachted:
That's why he won Fla (illegal immigrant hot bed) MI, OH, PA (Industrial belt)
ambivalentmace:
The rust belt has been decimated, no real surprise, but North Carolina going back red was a nice surprise.
Shifu. As Trump has already won, your prediction is on the money. You are absolutely right. Even the republicans did not want Trump to win. Why? because he may put a stop to all the graft and corruption. 46% of our elected officials are lawyers. If you want a corrupt system elect a bunch of lawyers to run it. Hillary is a lawyer, Obama is a lawyer and look what Obama did to our health care. He belongs in Africa among the trees. Now he is setting up a position for himself on the supreme court.
Englteachted:
You are saying things that are actually false. Reps wouldn't allow Obamacare to pass unless it kept insurance companies as the middlemen, but facts mean nothing to sb like you
Apparently, the answer was 'yes'.
Well, at least for some demographics.
I just heard on a radio interview with an analyst (Rep, btw) who quoted stats that about 1 million millenials didn't turn out to vote for Clinton who would normally have voted Dem, while the rate for millenial votes for Reps remained about the same as usual (which is about 20% of them).
Also, those millennials who did vote, tend to do so for independant candidates - not the mainstream anymore
There was also talk about being the lowest rate (or something) for a party ever since it's inception more than 200 years ago!
So, not only did people give the system the finger - they also decided to let other people vote for them (by not voting themselves).
Same analyst suggested that this election was the only one in (recent) history to have such low reference to actual policies... rather than just attacking each other.
Russia Admits "There Were Contacts" With Trump's Campaign Before Election Day
While the extent the contacts between Russia and the Trump campaign are unknown, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov confirmed “there were contacts” before the election.
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And The Winner Of The 2016 Election Is... Weed!
The 2016 U.S. election shocked everyone. But while the results did not look like anything pundits and pollsters predicted, American voters stayed mostly consistent on at least one subject: marijuana.