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Q: Was there a 60th anniversary for the end of WWII?
Was this celebrated to the same extent 10 years ago? Or is the succes story of WWII changing in modern China?
The same thing happened in the west. The victims of the conflict are checking out due to old age. Government needs to capitalize on the memory to justify its existence. Ha ha. My wife's grandad was a nationalist. He was a peasant soldier who fought the Japanese. He had a gun in front and a gun behind. He suffered. He suffered because he was on the wrong side that fought against the Japanese. But he fought them. Mao declared him a traitor in the 60s. This is the legacy China has to apologize for. The crimes against its own people.
Scandinavian:
That is not a WWII celebration but a "Yeah the CCP are awesome" kind of thing
The same thing happened in the west. The victims of the conflict are checking out due to old age. Government needs to capitalize on the memory to justify its existence. Ha ha. My wife's grandad was a nationalist. He was a peasant soldier who fought the Japanese. He had a gun in front and a gun behind. He suffered. He suffered because he was on the wrong side that fought against the Japanese. But he fought them. Mao declared him a traitor in the 60s. This is the legacy China has to apologize for. The crimes against its own people.
I think they are engaged in a bit of historical revisionism.
China was a complete shambles in ww2, mao and chiang both more concerned with fighting each other than the japanese. I don't know if Japan would ever have been able to occupy and pacify all of China. Probably not, but Japan did not surrender because of Chinese military action. If the US & UK didn't get involved the Japanese probably would have eventually had to withdraw to their coastal holdings cause a hostile China is too big to hold, but they probably would not have been driven out at least for a few decades.
Japan surrenderered only to the Reigning and Back-to-Back World War Champion United States ('18, '45)
Shining_brow:
I wish I could both upvote and downvote this!
Yes, you're right about China and Japan.
But it really pisses me off this crap about the US's role in the 2 wars. A - you came LATE to both wars, and there's LOTS of indications the US wouldn't have joined at all if it wasn't attacked. In WWI, it was clear that the US intended to remain neutral, until 1917 when the German u-boats started attacking shipping between the US and UK. WWII - again, if US interests weren't directly affected (ie, Pearl Harbour attack), it's unlikely they again would have entered the war, as up until then, there was a strict neutrality policy (even after German spies had been caught and executed on US soil).
And B - the US was the only major technologically developed nation to NOT have its cities bombed out. And, thus, still quite capable of producing arms and armaments for the war, didn't suffer from any of the starvation, disease, etc that occurs in wars - and didn't have it's population bombed.
Try, just try, to have some consideration of other nations in the war. Russia lost about 24 million people in WWII - that's more people than those killed throughout WWI in total! Poland - 5-6 million killed.
As a percentage of population - Australia, Canada and New Zealand lost a greater percentage in BOTH wars than the US did!
So, the "we came late, fully armed up cos we didn't lose much - and 'won' the war for everyone" BS is rather insensitive and tactless!
expatlife26:
haha oh totally i'm not actually buying into the back to back world war champs thing. Just thought it was a funny thing to post.
Though what I said about China and revisionism I stand by. They did not win ww2 they just didn't lose in the end.
