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Q: What is the difference between teaching in China and Japan or South Corea?
10 years 4 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
Teaching is Teaching wherever you teach... Correct Corea as Korea please.
DrMonkey:
Hum, no ?! The students attitude can be very different from places to places. What you are expected to do and what most teachers actually do can be very different from places to places. The average proficiency at <insert language here> changes a lot as well.
ironman510:
I thought you said not to bully people, remember I corrected the other guy for his "i" capitalization mistake, here you are doing the same.. I'm down voting you. lol
thefidu881:
You are welcome though I feel for you... I didn't bully the OP rather tried to let him/correct the spelling of Korea.
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In Japan and S. Korea only Native English teacher can get Working permit, and in China some Provinces issuing WP (or extending RP) to Non-Native English teachers.
I can save sh*t loads of money in China. Korea is ok too
I'm sorry but...."Corea"? C'mon now! How does anyone get that wrong and still ask a question about English teaching?
icnif77:
Yea, I too prefer 'Horea', especially when talking about North.....
mldardar:
Probably was listening to Chick Corea while posting the question.
You spelled it wrong, it is South Sorea. Beautiful country. Many people think the "s" sound is represented with a "c" but it is not. Some Koreans tried to tell me that the name was originally Corea, but Japan changed it so it would come after Japan alphabetically. Truth is the "K" sound is never spelled with a "C" in the Romanized spelling of Korean. If it was historically accurate it would be spelled Gorea, but Koreans just like to cry about Japan any chance they get and not base there arguments on anything other than shouting louder.
Eorthisio:
Not all Koreans are like that, I think those who travelled a lot or lived abroad are different, I have met some Koreans in the past who were heavy consumers of Japanese cultural products, electronics or food, they were telling me the Japan's hate among Koreans is stupid and that both countries should forget the past to move forward hand in hand.
Beautifulsoup:
yes, you are right. I should not generalize. There are many Koreans, who do not think this way. I think this it the standard Korean thought that the propaganda machine tries to create. I think that will change with the prospect of a "Asian NATO" if Japan can steer clear of sensitive issues.
South Korea would probably not want you as a teacher after realizing you can't even spell their country's name correctly, and in China they probably wouldn't even notice you spelled it wrong.
Korea has the largest city in the developed world. Japan has one of the world biggest economies (per capita) , in China people crap on the street
royceH:
Hahahahahahahahaha. S a y n o m o r e ! !
And we live here.....should give ourselves an uppercut. Cheers!
All those countries have a tendency to 'baby' people into adulthood. In Japan, it is moderated by western influences. In Korea, it is used as a front for backhandedness, to be passed of as immaturity. In China, it is institutionalized.
Expect to be groped by the kids without boundaries anywhere in east Asia as parents look on approvingly. You will be singled out and treated differently by people who are convinced of their own sophistication, intelligence and superiority. The people's racism is subtle, but infuriating at times. Japan and Korea have laws protecting people against racism, it means a lot, but doesn't prevent backwards attitudes. China doesn't respect the lives of its own non-moneyed citizens (estimations of deaths during the Cultural Revolution put it about on-par with WW1+WW2, except that these were national deaths during peacetime), so don't expect any sympathy when you complain about your own plight.
Japan and Korea want you to teach, China expects you to chimpout and entertain your students.
Japan and Korea will look at your qualifications and experience before looking at your passport and ethnicity, China will look at your passport and ethnicity but will never take a look at your qualifications or call your previous employers.
I teach German in a foreign owned and managed institute, I speak broken English but could easily get a job at any Chinese owned international school just because I have teaching certifications, am white, tall, blonde and have blue eyes (don't tell me that it is wrong, I already tried and successfully got the offer in one of the 5 best international school in China, I refused, my current position is paying higher).
If tomorrow I get an offer in Japan or Korea I will not hesitate a second to move there, my current job is paying very well and I enjoy it, but China is a cr*phole compared to these two countries.
thefidu881:
It's the opposite with respect to your second paragraph.
Japan and Korea doesn't allow non native English speakers to get a working visa even. While in japan black native speakers face more racism with respect to China.
Eorthisio:
I lived in Japan for 7 years before coming to China, I have met many non-native English speakers teaching there with legal authorizations from 2011, it appears that the reality is far from what is officially being told.
Now if you want to know why, many teachers were forced out of the country with the collapse of NOVA which was by far the largest private English teaching company in Japan, they had training centers with native speakers on site in almost every subway/light-rail station in the country (that's thousand of them), they were crippled by debts and had to file for bankruptcy. They are trying to rise again, for now it's a fail, no investors trust them anymore.
Then after the 2011 Earthquake and Fukushima disaster many expatriates left Japan in panic and most schools ended up with no foreign English teachers, some began to collapse because who would go to learn in a school that pretend to have foreign teachers but doesn't have any. The authorities saw that, loosed the rules and now accept non-native speakers with certificates and I don't know how many hours of TEFL courses.
From 2011 I saw more and more people with African, Asian, Arab or Indian backgrounds (and not from English speaking countries) but also people from Mainland Europe starting to teach in Japan.
Thanks,guys for trying to answer my question and share your experience.And i invite the others to check their reading comprehension as my question was not Can i teach english in Cnina,Japan or ...
Maybe about $2,000 a month less in China. Singapore pays even more, but you need an education degree there.
