Stiggs:

Lol 'the hose' was the first thing I thought of when I saw that question just now...

diverdude1:

right up there in Top 10 Creepiest Movies ever....  They all nailed it,,, but the blonde muscle-builder perv/kidnapper has to be the creepiest dude ever!   masculine,, but effeminate,,, and that sick baritone type voice...   wow,,,  actor or not, I bet that guy is nutty in real-life too ~

icnif77:

Ted Levine is acting as Jame Gumb nicknamed 'Buffalo Bill' ...

  ... and he's just acting ... 

You made me laugh with his real-life comparison ...

Here is his IMDB:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0505971/

Stiggs:

Yep, he's the type of guy you'd avoid making eye contact with if he was living next door to you and if the kids lost a ball over his fence you'd tell them to leave it there.

The fluffy, manicured poodle was a good touch too, I'm not sure why but it just seems to be the perfect dog for someone like that.

icnif77:

You aren't judging people by the pets they have ...?

LOLOL ... I'll suffocate ... LOL!

The best was his female disregard (which Hopkins described earlier to Jodi ...

' ... Buffalo Bill did not start out as a killer, but through years of systematic abuse he became one ...')

"It puts the lotion on it's skin ... or else it gets ..."

What a sentence ...

I had a blast when Sinobear used the quote at some Lotion thread some 5y ago ... and I was guessing if posters recognized the quote Sino was using. 

I found this read when I was looking for Hopkins description of Gumb ...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thepsychopath/the-controversy-of-the-silence-of-the-lambs-t23203.html

Buffalo Bill, the main antagonist, is an extremely damaged character with an immense amount of psychological problems. Before Buffalo Bill was even put on screen, it was explained to the audience that he was a transsexual. He had been rejected from at least three different hospitals when he requested a sex change operation. Buffalo Bill took matters into his own hands by skinning the obese women. The motive of his murder, wanting to become a woman, gave transsexuality pessimistic overtones. It looks as if though the driving factor for his madness is his sexuality/desire to be a woman, rather than just his mental instability. Arthur Almquist (1996), professor at the University of Montana, wrote that only time Buffalo Bill is shown on camera, he is played out as the typical “flamboyant, gay stereotype.” Buffalo Bill’s characteristics were meant to make the audience uncomfortable and invoke a sense of affliction, which lead to the demonization of homosexuality. It was never actually mentioned in the movie whether Buffalo Bill was homosexual ..

Stiggs:

The sequel, or prequel I think to that movie is just as good at showing how a psycho is formed. I haven't seen it for a long time and it's been even longer since I read the book but I think Hannibal Lecter was forced to eat his sister or something and became a war orphan which turned him into a cannibal.

diverdude1:

oh,, there's a prequel?  I gotta see that....   is it worth seeing?  maybe I heard of it back in the day,,, just didn't register or something...

icnif77:

There are two different books by Harris: ''Hannibal Lecter-Trilogy'' and ''The Silence of the Lambs''.

I am listening audio book "Silence ..." and it doesn't differ too much from dialogs in the flick.

"Red Dragon" was prequel to the "The Silence ..."

Stiggs:

Hannibal rising is the movie I was thinking of. It's how Hannibal grew up to be a psycho, great movie from what I remember.

icnif77:

Me-touch-a-nerve here ...  

"I am so precious ... big-butT precious ... "