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Q: What is with the general level of disorganisation here?

From my experience of working with different companies across different industries here, everything just seems so disorganised. The constant need to reschedule things, a lack of forward planning, or lack of respect for other's time, poor communication skills and the inability to seemingly liase with others, like why? And are things improving or getting worse with regard to these areas?

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I use to let things like this bother me but after being here a while, it becomes trivial.

My observation is the country has too many people and making things with bad quality, having multiple levels of decision makers and no plan until the last minute keeps more people working, keeps everyone on a short leash to avoid rebellion and this chaos keeps everything stable.

 

The question is how long can it continue like this as other countries have lower labor costs and change and compete in the world market? Can this country develop with a clampdown while the younger generation wants a more world view? My observation is a little different, I see the migrant peasant laborers doing the cheap dirty work to make the real estate rich urban city folks rich and middle class with really bad quality work. So what happens when the countryside numbers fall so bad that they have no cheap migrant workers to do continuous cheap labor building, inflate prices, print money, brag to world how rich we are scam, what happens then, when the inferior buildings start falling apart, they may not have enough workers to keep the scam going. Then the whole thing falls apart or white collar workers start getting their hands dirty, the young Japanese educated have refused to get their hands dirty and live with mom and dad, what will happen here?

It is going to be great show if I live long enough to see the results.

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China will be the last country to get rid or rural populations and this migration is going to be a great show. England kicked out the middle class to Canada taking land and creating an aristocracy with very rich and very poor in history. Thailand made collective farms and the farmers sons became ladyboy's to make a living to support their families. China has no place to send the peasants, they don't have skills for a changing economy, they can't afford the housing, if any country should worry about robots, automation and keeping people employed, this is the battlefield, China, I don't see a very optimistic outcome. The irony is small farms are usually more productive than collective farms, and food production actually drops after collective farming occurs but people don't look at results, this will cause even more problems as China becomes more dependent on imported food like their Asian neighbor Japan.

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I use to let things like this bother me but after being here a while, it becomes trivial.

My observation is the country has too many people and making things with bad quality, having multiple levels of decision makers and no plan until the last minute keeps more people working, keeps everyone on a short leash to avoid rebellion and this chaos keeps everything stable.

 

The question is how long can it continue like this as other countries have lower labor costs and change and compete in the world market? Can this country develop with a clampdown while the younger generation wants a more world view? My observation is a little different, I see the migrant peasant laborers doing the cheap dirty work to make the real estate rich urban city folks rich and middle class with really bad quality work. So what happens when the countryside numbers fall so bad that they have no cheap migrant workers to do continuous cheap labor building, inflate prices, print money, brag to world how rich we are scam, what happens then, when the inferior buildings start falling apart, they may not have enough workers to keep the scam going. Then the whole thing falls apart or white collar workers start getting their hands dirty, the young Japanese educated have refused to get their hands dirty and live with mom and dad, what will happen here?

It is going to be great show if I live long enough to see the results.

ambivalentmace:

China will be the last country to get rid or rural populations and this migration is going to be a great show. England kicked out the middle class to Canada taking land and creating an aristocracy with very rich and very poor in history. Thailand made collective farms and the farmers sons became ladyboy's to make a living to support their families. China has no place to send the peasants, they don't have skills for a changing economy, they can't afford the housing, if any country should worry about robots, automation and keeping people employed, this is the battlefield, China, I don't see a very optimistic outcome. The irony is small farms are usually more productive than collective farms, and food production actually drops after collective farming occurs but people don't look at results, this will cause even more problems as China becomes more dependent on imported food like their Asian neighbor Japan.

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You may be on to sth there regarding how disorganisation can be used to keep ppl on a short lease. And yh, I understand, you can't really let it get to you, but for me I'm still learning about how to deal with it. Esp since right now I work part time so I really don't need that crap lol.

And yh, real estate and construction are now the cornerstone of the Chinese economy and many of China's northern provinces, who have failed to sufficiently diversify their economies.

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I find it amazing with all the problems here they ignore they still try to project some superpower status to the world while they are falling apart from within. Its like a Shakespear tragedy. I worry more about a superbug antibiotic resistent plague killing me here more than i do a face image CCP. China has overused antibiotics like they use up every resource until they have to find another alternative option, but this overuse may be lethal to society. My body is not different and I eat the meat here that is pumped with antibiotics, I'm screwed and most people don't even know anything about it.

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You can't plan an uprising if you don't even know what you are going to do tomorrow.

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This sounds like what Donald Trump would like to see in the good ol US of A so he can expand his financial empire.

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I don't like everything about Trump, but Trump never builds bad quality, I have to defend him on that, he will fire all the plumbers on a job for a shitty job and start over before he lets quality go down.

His hotels make a Ritz-Carlton look like a hostel in comparison. He is a detail man and a workaholic and he actually comes down off his white horse and talks to blue collar workers and "deplorables". I am actually amazed by what he did in New York and New Jersey, the blue collar construction workers there are all union and all mafia and shake you down for all the money they can bleed out of you and he still survived the building market there.

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