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Q: What makes you not wear a mask back in your homecountry at this moment?

I could be wrong but from what I read or saw on the news, most of y'all still don't wanna wear a protective mask in your homecountry.

 

No reason to panic! They say.

 

I'm scratching my head here. Really?? Is it too big an offense to be wearing a mask while walking on the street?

 

P.E.A.C.E.!

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well,,,granted I don't know Sh*t from Shinola*, but when the USA declares official National Emergency,,,,,,  somethings going on....   and shuts down travel between the ponds,,,,  look,,, I'm not a 'Sky is fallin' guy,,, or a 'Rest easy' guy,,, Truth is I could give a fk,,, but lets all of us here on echina try to give cool info!

 

and hahaa,,,  my mask is a MotoX mask w/ replaceable filters!  of which I have a couple of yrs worth..........  disposable is not the way to go guys.... if u can get yourself the next level up....

Stiggs:

Yeah I reckon it has gone beyond the 'it's just the flu bro' stage.

 

I'm a bit like you - not too worried, whatever is going to happen will happen regardless so feck it,  just have to roll with whatever comes.

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WHO said that you should only wear a mask if you're sick. 
 

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For sure it's not the only way to protect.

 

So is it true that someone will only put on a mask if they fall sick in your homecountry? If it is, so wearing masks = telling people you're sick. Can I conclude it?

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I only wear one when robbing a bank.  Black only.  Rob in style, or don't Rob at all !  is what I say ~  

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We only have 5 (confirmed) cases here in NZ but trying to buy a mask would be hopeless, they sold out long ago.

 

Nobody is wearing them here though.

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'cause I am rebellious! 

The other thing is in Schengen, you would get arrested if you would enter the bank or any other money institution with mask on your face. I don't think they would be lenient toward NCov.

"Just stay home or use online payment ..." bank teller would say.

 

I cross the roads everywhere in the world ONLY Chinese way ... 

 

I got ticket a month ago. It was morning-sunny and ... I just saw car is approaching ... when I was in the middle of 2 lane road, the incoming car 'showed' cop-pery ... colours.

I can see only shades in sunny ... without shades on me eyes.

 

Fine is 40 EUR payable in 2 weeks with 50% discount if you pay earlier.

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5 cases in NZ is good news, for such a big country. Well ok, then no need to panic, I agree.

 

I don't know about the comments like Robbing bank or Crossing lanes or teaching English, seems you just say whatever you like as long as it makes you happy... Haha!

 

This morning I read an Italian doctor's diary translated to Chinese. How similar it sounds to Wuhan one month earlier! The hospital staff has been burnt up but they stayed put on the frontline, knowing someday they're gonna fall.

 

Wow my huge respect when I was reading this part.

 

Meanwhile the idiots were marching the city streets in protest of the lockdown. Freedom, freedom, freedom! Civilian's right!

 

In his diary (and I assume in any physician's diary) he urged people to stay isolated, use masks and stop being arrogant/ignorant...

 

Damn, if I were you I would listen to him!

Stiggs:

NZ is pretty far from being a big country - the population is less than 5 million but yeah, no real reason for panic yet.

 

But, like I said, trying to buy a mask now is pointless, they've sold out, there are none on the shelves so presumably a lot of people have them.

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Italian strain of Ncov is different (strain L) and deadlier than in Wuhan (strain S). The 'bastard' doesn't mutate, which is good news. That comes from Jap. & Taiwanese scientists ... I can't find the weblink of this now. I read it yesterday ...

However, Ncov-19 is genetically edited SARS, i.e. mixed with HIV ..., so it makes it more infectious, I read ...

Yes, I am talking about germ warfare, butT ... we'll never find out the real truth to these rumours.

Chinese and Americans are 'up-the-neck' about it ... RT was posting that Ncov 'zero patient' was in USA at the beginning of Sep./Oct. last year, but US apparently misdiagnose him/her. Then, US Military delegation (300 boots) at Military Olympic games in Dec. 2019 in Wuhan brought the thingy into China.

Chinese ambassador was summoned yesterday to White House for an explanation of Chinese PM statements ...

Up-to-da-Neck ..."I didn't do it/You did it"

 

https://www.rt.com/news/483018-china-us-theory-coronavirus-spokesman/

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-covid-19-made-in-china-or-made-in-america/5706272

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Wang, Wang, Wang..... Damn I sound like a dog. Seriously dude why would anyone pay attention to an Italian doctor's diary? Although an Italian toilet uncle would have more credibility then China's new publicity department, World Health Organization.

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Yep its just not something we do in Australia unless we ourselves have allergies/ailments/illnesses.  I did so to avoid the effects of pollen back in 2011 in Australia and I was looked at as though I had been freshly shat out of a rump asshole.   So yeh ... once bitten twice shy lol !?! 

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Yeah NZ is not big, but it probably is if divided by the population. I shoulda made it clearer.

 

I also read it somewhere that a normal mask is no 100% protection, then the author says it can stop you from touchin your own nose and mouth. I thought the author got a point, considering that we touch our own faces probably over 1000 times a day.

 

@celticjames Funny you should say that! I went to Aussie and learnt that it's compulsory to wear a helmet on a bicycle. I thought it makes sense so I wear a helmet all the time when I ride in China, whether on a road bike or on a commuter bike. People look at me as though I had been freshly shat out of a rump asshole LOL!

 

Anyway the global sick charts are not looking good. I have the feeling that everyone is just as dumb/slow now as the residents in Wuhan back in Jan. You're not smarter.

 

I could be wrong but I feel that you are being given a false sense of safety back home, just like the residents in Wuhan in Jan. The decentralized governments have no power for swift actions, so their priority is to downplay the situation, make sure people don't rush to and jam the hospital, like what happened in Wuhan.

 

But as individuals, don't fool yourself man! C'mon.

 

 

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Hey dumbass, Aussie is a person from Australia not an abbreviation for Australia. Didn't they teach you the basics in Wumao Training School? Keep your chin up beta-boy, you'll find something that you aren't a complete failure at one day. Maybe.

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Aliexpress still ships surgical masks, but I haven't used it so, no first hand experience.

 

Not an ad. PEACE!

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at the moment here, all schools, universities and public buildings are closed.

Cinema's theatres or any place where people would meet in groups are closed.

People are working from home - to minimise contact and care for their children (people are told NOT to send children to grandparents).

Children are allowed out, for fresh air and exercise only.

any child social contact outside your immediate family is discouraged - play grounds are closed as are any place children/parents would gather. Children would be deemed carriers (who don't exhibit symptoms) so they would be isolated as a precaution to prevent infecting others. 

If you are unwell, you stay at home or contact a medical professional.

 

You don't go out in public wearing a mask - all this says is that you are unwell, which means that you ignored advice.

Anyone out in public wearing a mask would be avoided and told to go home or to a doctor. Common sense personal hygiene is suddenly back in vogue - like washing hands - a habit i have had since child-hood.

 

Supermarkets are open but people have stocked up and are not going in such numbers.

Supermartkes run online delivery so there is no real necessity to go out anyway.

 

people are complying, but there is no heavy handed coercian.

To coerce the population would imply a low level of civic repsonsibility. 

 

only 1 death recorded, but this was a woman well into her 80's who had a number of additional medical complaints.

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well,,,granted I don't know Sh*t from Shinola*, but when the USA declares official National Emergency,,,,,,  somethings going on....   and shuts down travel between the ponds,,,,  look,,, I'm not a 'Sky is fallin' guy,,, or a 'Rest easy' guy,,, Truth is I could give a fk,,, but lets all of us here on echina try to give cool info!

 

and hahaa,,,  my mask is a MotoX mask w/ replaceable filters!  of which I have a couple of yrs worth..........  disposable is not the way to go guys.... if u can get yourself the next level up....

Stiggs:

Yeah I reckon it has gone beyond the 'it's just the flu bro' stage.

 

I'm a bit like you - not too worried, whatever is going to happen will happen regardless so feck it,  just have to roll with whatever comes.

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luxury face mask coronavirus covid-19

 

Are there any fashionistas (wha' a long word surprise ) around?

I think, I'll get it ... despite your opinions ... 

Retailer's link ...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverwilliams1/2020/03/11/how-the-rich-are...

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Things are mostly normal here in NZ. Schools and things are still open, there have been some high profile public events called off but I was at a supermarket yesterday and it was just like any other day, the shelves with toilet paper, rice, canned foods etc were well stocked so the panic buying people keep talking about doesn't seem to be a thing here yet. The only masks I've seen people wearing were on some guys stripping down a house with asbestos in it last week.

 

But, there's a storm coming for sure. At this point we only have 6 confirmed cases in NZ so the virus itself isn't much of an issue yet, the main concern for now is the economy.

 

NZ has effectively closed the borders so there goes the tourism industry. Things we export aren't being offloaded at foreign ports so those industries are hurting too. We've been told to brace for a massive hit to the economy and almost certain recession now that the backbone of the economy has been crippled, a lot of people are likely to get laid off, some industries already are laying people off.

 

People are worried about how they'll pay their rent or mortgages, especially if lockdowns become a thing here. I'm sure that's a common worry everywhere though, not just here. The government is set to announce emergency financial measures and plans next week to try to deal with it.

 

It's hard to know how to plan for this sort of thing, will just have to brace ourselves, hope it blows over relatively quickly and get through it as best we all can I suppose.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There were quite a number of cases in Wuhan, where a guy goes in public asymptomatic, unaware he's infectious himself, only to feel sick and check into hospital days later. Because of that he didn't use a mask at first.

 

Anyway I think I get it, it's a social norm to avoid using a mask. While over here people thought it's nothing to walk around in a mask.

 

BTW that diamond mask looks fancy. Will consider it for the next Valentine's Day ^_*

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I just came back from ... no, I didn't! angel

 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-in-...

 

 

NEW ZEALAND

 Mark Baker/AP

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced what she says will be some of the toughest border restrictions in the world in an attempt to keep out the new coronavirus. Picture: Mark Baker/APSource:AP

Jacinda Ardern has announced New Zealand will have the world’s ‘toughest border restrictions’ — and they start from midnight tonight.

Every person who enters New Zealand will now be required to enter self-isolation for 14 days, which is similar to the new travel restrictions Prime Minister Scott Morrison just announced.

“I make no apologies,” Ardern said at a press conference yesterday afternoon.

However, it appears she started the travel restriction early, with a cruise ship being refused entry into a port today at Akaroa, on New Zealand’s South Island.

Passengers on the Golden Princess cruise liner were barred from disembarking at a New Zealand port on Sunday because of a suspected coronavirus case on board, health officials said.

There were 2,600 passengers and 1,100 crew on the boat docked at Akaroa near the South Island city of Christchurch, according to the port’s cruise ship schedule.

New Zealand’s director-general of health, Ashley Bloomfield, said three passengers have been quarantined by the ship’s doctor.

One of them has developed COVID-19 symptoms and is being treated as a suspected case.

“All on board are not being allowed off the ship until results are known,” Bloomfield said.

The health scare arose just three days after Princess Cruises announced it was suspending voyages worldwide for two months in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

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@icnif77 I tried 'Add Comment' but the text area was disabled. Strange....

 

Still on the subject of masks... Many vlogs made by the Chinese living abroad (mainly in the West in this regard) expressed great disbelief about how local people won't put on masks.

 

Thanks to all you fella's comments above, it helped me come to realize there is a fundemental difference in our views of when to use a mask.

 

Us: Wear mask to protect ourselves, then others.

You: Wear mask to protect others.

 

However you view a mask's function, I wish all the best to each and every country being affected! This is a war against humanity and we're gonna win!!

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Population is a big factor so social spacing is easier in a big country like Australia with a population of under 28 million.
Compared to India or China for example

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@sandnose

Ok here are the labels you put on me:

 

- Glass hearted

- Sooky / cry baby

- Victim mentality

- Passive/aggressive

- Beta-male compatriots

 

We never talked on e-tities except only yesterday yet you lashed out, that makes me wonder what type of keyboard warrior/social moron/real-life wuss you might probably sound like.

 

I get it alright, we don't know each other yet you KNOW me so well. I'm not a person/mate/friend to you.

 

To you I am China. (Probably P.R.China, more specifically) So, enjoy your freedom of speech.

 

In real life though, I rather doubt you have half the ball to talk to your colleagues/neighbors/family like that. So harden up yourself *_^ 

 

This getting crazy for what's origininally a reasonable discussion. I stop here.

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 Do you know how coffee is properly served? 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stunning-video-locked-down-europe

Stunning Video From A Locked-Down Europe

 

Social distancing rules being followed at one coffee shop in Italy.

In Italy, do not lose a sense of humor.

 

Vid from Italian Espresso bar in am hours on the weblink with Ncov infection report from Schengen.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/silence-shrouds-streets-cities-across-114856873.html

368 dead in 24 hours in Italy as Europe shuts down to slow the growing crisis

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Did I tell you or what did I tell you ...?

Regular, normal people in West don't wear masks in public ... You can't go into Bank wearing a mask unless ...  surprise

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/organized-crime-robberies-suspects-wea...

 

Organized Crime? Robberies By Suspects Wearing Virus Masks Reported Across East Coast

 

 

The virus crisis in America is leading towards the unraveling of the social fabric. A string of robberies has been reported across the East Coast with suspects wearing medical masks. 

The Hill reports that the robberies appear unrelated, but as we've noted before, organized crime gangs could be on the prowl.

Medical masks are perfect covers to shield one's identity. That's what happened late last month when two men robbed a bank in the Atlanta suburb of Smyrna. 

Earlier this month, two men wearing medical masks robbed three workers transporting $200,000 at the Aqueduct Racetrack in Queens, New York. 

  

Last week, a medical mask-wearing man robbed a Boston bank, then the same thing happened in New Jersey. 

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This is related to my previous comment about "asymptomatic carriers".

 

Utah Jazz Player Donovan Mitchell on Interview

 

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av97015396

 

He says, "I don't have symptoms, I could walk down the streets, it wasnt public knowledge that I was sick, you wouldnt know it, I think thats the scariest part about this virus..."

 

The bilibili video link has quoted its original Youtube source @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xZYSjZiETE

 

The main message is it's possible to be infectious without symptoms. I think it's time to rethink the meaning of wearing masks.

 

(Side note below smiley)

 

Reason I'm using the bilibili link is because A. it works here; B. it's pretty a resourceful site.

 

It has many AI-suggested links in Chinese, you don't read Chinese or you don't find it relevant then don't click.

 

One thing about bilibili is you see text flying across the screen while you play the video. It's a thing in China (probably in Korea and Japan, too), it's the live comments by viewers, which we call Dan Mu (弹幕), flying comments. You can enable/disable it via a small icon underneath the screen, depending on whether you're watching on PC or phone.

 

Some examples of Dan Mu in Mitchell's video:

- Does it mean his career is over?

- He isn't spiritful

- How can his earphones look like that?

- So they still think no need to wear masks if you don't feel sick?

- Is the host a man or woman?

- He's lucky he doesn't have children in the house!

 

I was advised by the moderator that if I am to post links in Chinese, I should include enough English, so here it is. cheeky PEACE!

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Saw my first mask being worn in public today, a guy walking with his wife / girlfriend and a baby. They weren't wearing masks though, only him.

 

Honestly, my first thought / reaction was 'shit, plague carrier, feck off away from me you dirty fecker'.

 

But then I just thought 'good on him, the dude probably woke up with a runny nose and is being responsible, taking sensible precautions' and besides that, NZ only has 20 something confirmed cases as of today and they're all in isolation so no worries.

 

It made me think of this thread though.. wearing a mask outside for anything other than work safety - dust, spraying, painting, medical etc is just so usual that when you do see someone rocking the mask your first assumption is that they must be contagious and why are they even outside.

 

 

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I said under this thread that it's difficult for the decentralized Western governments to take swift actions. Apparently many Western countries have started to take swift actions, which proved me wrong.

I reckon the initial slowness was mainly because of an underestimation, rather than lack of ability.

We're in this together. Solidarity!

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From recent news it seems people aren't wearing masks, hospital workers included, because Chinese state own companies were focused on buying as many as possible and shipping them back to China on private jets. Video and gloating by those concerned confirms the facts. It's not surprising China now has masks to use as diplomatic leverage with struggling countries who have sold their souls for factory seconds.

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In Jan/Feb China's mask supply was in it deep. My sister is a sales agent, factories couldn't deliver her order after a nifty 30% down payment. Over here, everyone wear a mask during an epidemic, wherever we go, apparently this is different from lots of other places.

 

In fact, in Jan lots of medical staff in Wuhan were doing makeshift masks/protect gowns in exact the way you now see in US.

 

How else do you wish for China to give masks to other countries? Stick a disclaimer saying We give it to you for free, without agenda? I think it's rather more honest to treat it a give and take.

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I understand that true altruism is a concept that is completely alien to Chinese ideology. I feel sorry for you.

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You are bad! 

 

I just read this on Yahoo-gle:

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-preparing-medical-supply-airlift-170100711.html

 

These were all bought and usually shipped by the sea. Now, planes loaded with things are flying from Chiner to USA  ...

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So instead of jabbering about the fault of the Chinese society, I suggest you make some daily efforts to educate us on altruism, like have some dialogue with neighbors, make yourself an example, join some volunteering work in the community. That's how we improve day by day. Obviously as someone who provide a different perspective, you can definitely add value.

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As usual you adopt the victim mentality before you attempt to understand what was written. Just to clarify, none of my comments are directed at the Chinese people. In fact, I am the first person to praise ordinary people for their kindness and handling of this tragedy.

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A:Going to HK would be the best bet I reckon, especially if you were looking for a church wedding. Chinese weddings are pretty grim IMO - you go to a barren govt dept with souless officials and navigate red tape so some guy can give you a red stamp and a marriage book. You get expensive pictures taken of you both posing in places you'd never go to in everyday life that is somehow supposed to represent your wedding, then a while later it's off to a restaurant where a game show host kind of guy makes sure it's as tacky as possible while the guests eat as fast as they can so they can leave as soon as they finish eating and gave you money. Hell, I'd go to Thailand or the Philippines and get married in Paradise.   -- Stiggs