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Q: What western movies would translate well as remakes for Chinese cinema?

  Did really make that clear in the asking the first time round.

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Chinese cinema goers are attracted to inane films that, to me, seem best suited to 12 year olds.

That said, I think they should embrace V for Vendetta.  Why not?  Most ppl I meet here are in desperate need of some cerebral stimuli.  Above mentioned flick could well supply them just that.  Or not.  I'm backing not.  But for some...yes indeed.

 

 

Samsara:

V for Vendetta has been played, unedited, on Chinese TV.

 

While V is probably the most overtly, explicitly, obviously anti-authoritarian movie ever made, Chinese people simply do not understand allusion, metaphor or satire. They are not able to draw parallels between the ultra-authoritarian security state in the movie --- "Censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity" --- and their own situation.

 

Norsefire would have to be called "The Chinese Communist Party" and Adam Sutler renamed "Xi JinPing" before Chinese people realised that this movie applies to them. And then they still wouldn't get it.

 

Good answer though, Royce.

 

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royceH:

Whoh...Samsara, your answer is better!  Terrific bit of analysis...quite right.  Well done you!

Umm..do you like the aforementioned film?

 

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Samsara:

Yes, I love this film. It fills me with destructive, anarchic joy.

 

Chinese people, however, are completely lifeless when it comes to notions of rebellion and breaking the system. The Matrix is another good example of a "fight the system" movie that they just don't get.

 

Due to indoctrination, censorship and suppression, Chinese people don't have the analytical capacity or self-awareness to grasp the implications of these movies. Well played, Communist Party.

 

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I don't see many "westerners" realizing they mostly live in police states either, to be honest. Whenever you talk about surveillance, many people will still answer that "as long as you didn't do anything bad you have nothing to fear".

At least Chinese dont delude themselves into the illusion of freedom. To be honest I really don't like V for Vendetta. There is nothing intellectually stimulating about this movie, and I certainly would never wish to educate anyone to social revolt and turning against the system with this type of film. This is a masturbating fantasy for teenagers. Revolutions are born and die in blood, and they are never about one single group of brave oppressed citizens turning against the bad evil state. It can never be this simple. Today, the biggest enemy of anyone wanting to make a difference is apathy and media. Not weapons.

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Interesting retort there T.

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How about Vinnetou and Old ShutterHand angel

mArtiAn:

  Never heard of 'em.

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Nobody has, he just made em up.

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...or Winnetou and Old Shatterhand...hahaha..

Western eh?

maybe...Stagecoach, High Noon, The Magnificent Seven, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, .... are these "western" enough for ya?

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Things that will Never Sound The Same After That Gay Cowboy Movie:

 
 
"I'm gonna pump you fulla lead!"
 
 
"Give me a stiff one, barkeep!"
 
 
"Don't fret---I've been in tight spots before."
 
 
"Howdy, pardner."
 
"You stay here while I sneak around from behind."
 
Two words: "Saddle Sore."
 
"Hold it right there!? Now, move your hand, reeeal slow-like."
 
"Let's mount up!"
 
"Nice spread ya got there!"
 
"Ride'em cowboy!"
 
"I reckon this might hurt a little"

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@mArtiAn: 

 

Here's a few more:

 

Howdy Partner.
Ride ‘em Cowboy.
Go West young Man, Go West.
I’m your Huckleberry.
Fast is good but accurate is better. 
 
Don’t worry – I’ve been in tighter spots than this.
He's All Hat and No Cattle.
Do it right or get off the Horse.
No matter where you go. There you are. 
I gotta go see a man about a horse.
 
Don’t just lay there and bleed.
Dang, Young Whippersnapper.
The Buck stops here. 
There’s nothing better for a mans soul than being outside on a Horse.
Only out on the Range can you find yourself.
 
We gonna have us a Necktie Party.
Dont stop kicken till the clock stops ticken
Whoa Nellie!
Don’t spoil his fun, let him play with it.
Leavin’ ‘em Standing.
 
Size does matter, the bigger your buckle the better. 
Ride it like you stole it. 
You stay here while I sneak around from the back.
Ridin’ a Horse is like dancing, you gotta feel the rhythm and move with it. 
 
Let's Mount Up.
Ready or Not...
Lets Ride.
Rode hard and put away wet.
Don’t worry ‘bout bitin’ off more than you can chew, your mouth is
bigger’n you think. 
 
Hi Ho Silver!
Well Butter my Butt and call me Biscuit.
That beats anything I ever helt, felt or smelt.

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  Haha, nice.

  Show me a home where the buffaloes roam, an' i'll show you a house-full o' s**t.

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Chinese cinema goers are attracted to inane films that, to me, seem best suited to 12 year olds.

That said, I think they should embrace V for Vendetta.  Why not?  Most ppl I meet here are in desperate need of some cerebral stimuli.  Above mentioned flick could well supply them just that.  Or not.  I'm backing not.  But for some...yes indeed.

 

 

Samsara:

V for Vendetta has been played, unedited, on Chinese TV.

 

While V is probably the most overtly, explicitly, obviously anti-authoritarian movie ever made, Chinese people simply do not understand allusion, metaphor or satire. They are not able to draw parallels between the ultra-authoritarian security state in the movie --- "Censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity" --- and their own situation.

 

Norsefire would have to be called "The Chinese Communist Party" and Adam Sutler renamed "Xi JinPing" before Chinese people realised that this movie applies to them. And then they still wouldn't get it.

 

Good answer though, Royce.

 

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royceH:

Whoh...Samsara, your answer is better!  Terrific bit of analysis...quite right.  Well done you!

Umm..do you like the aforementioned film?

 

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Samsara:

Yes, I love this film. It fills me with destructive, anarchic joy.

 

Chinese people, however, are completely lifeless when it comes to notions of rebellion and breaking the system. The Matrix is another good example of a "fight the system" movie that they just don't get.

 

Due to indoctrination, censorship and suppression, Chinese people don't have the analytical capacity or self-awareness to grasp the implications of these movies. Well played, Communist Party.

 

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TMaster:

I don't see many "westerners" realizing they mostly live in police states either, to be honest. Whenever you talk about surveillance, many people will still answer that "as long as you didn't do anything bad you have nothing to fear".

At least Chinese dont delude themselves into the illusion of freedom. To be honest I really don't like V for Vendetta. There is nothing intellectually stimulating about this movie, and I certainly would never wish to educate anyone to social revolt and turning against the system with this type of film. This is a masturbating fantasy for teenagers. Revolutions are born and die in blood, and they are never about one single group of brave oppressed citizens turning against the bad evil state. It can never be this simple. Today, the biggest enemy of anyone wanting to make a difference is apathy and media. Not weapons.

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Interesting retort there T.

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Most western movies seem to be in Chinese cinemas.

royceH:

No, that's not correct.  Only the American Braindead Blockbusters are on in Chinese cinemas.  It's part of the hate/love/hate relationship China has for all things USofA.

For me, a person who enjoys cinema, it's a problem and a disappointment.

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Hulk:

Well the big blockbusters, that is. Braindead they may be, they seem to be very popular over there. I only went to one showing, and it was kinda neat.

 

Normally, people just download everything or buy pirated discs from the stands. ALL American movies, when they come out, are also on the streets.

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  I guess I wasn't clear with the question; I really meant what films would translate well in remakes. 

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Donnie Darko or Garden State

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The Three Stooges. I hate to say it, but ... 

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Battleship Potempkin. Oh wait, they tried that with Founding of an Army and it flopped.

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