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Q: What will happen to us?

If a war starts between china and japan.............What is the worst case scenario for us expats in china?!!!!...........especially if our countries have a defense treaty with japan.

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It is not the Authority's you need to worry about it will be the local Nationalists who will want to do harm to you (Mob Mentality )

I doubt It will not happen overnight so if it starts looking nasty head for the airport

or closest boarder ahead of time

fortunately most surrounding countries are allies of the USA

well except the  DPRK .

maybe it is time to brush up on you Russian? 

 

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To be honest, in a time like this you should call your embassy and see what they say. 

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If there would be "bad times" - PSB will warn You (they have Your address) or just escort to nearest embassy or an airport 

it there would be any security threat - You can go to nearest PSB office and ask Them to call Your embassy to arrange help

 

look on Your embassy website - they provide information the kind of: "all ... citizens are advised to leave China asap." or  "(...) should immediately leave China or report to nearest embassy"

btw. I'm happy that I'm not US citizen (and my Russian is quite good  for average Chinese) 
 

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first, war will not break out between japan and china. chinese govt knows they are in the wrong. they signed the islands over to japan in 1895 at the end of the first sino- japanese war. and at the end of ww2 the islands were surrendered to the usa. 1970, the usa returned the islands to japan. taiwen / china does have a legitimate grip. because they were not invited to the peace talks in san fran. so they were not allowed to address the issue. which is why japan is preparing to return or sell the islands back to china . the first step was buying the lands from the private owners. (chinese govt whipped the nationals up into a frenzy because they were one step closer to getting what they want, WTF?) if i was japan i would not give the islands back until the chinese govt admits to their chinese people that the chinese govt signed the islands over to japan in 1895 and apologize to all the japanese people who were terrorized and or assaulted. 

bottom line is this japan is planning to return or sell the islands back to china. but chinas reputation will never recover from this. and international companies will be forced to rethink staying in china because china is clearly growing more and more unstable. (fewer jobs )

 

to answer your question. if war broke out between china and any country, book the next flight out with your gf/ wife. if you leave your gf behind they will probably be raped and beaten.

Createach:

thanks for the advice............and by the way did i mention my GF is working in the PSB?!!!!.......so in her situation what should i do?!!!!.......had some issues with her lately but now we' are cool .......... what about her?!!!!

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crimochina:

her co workers would be leading the charge to rape her and beat her

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Createach:

shut up guys...........you don't even know the girl....her dad is the leader of the PSB where i live...................nothing will happen to her........and i will make sure of that

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crimochina:

creat: i hope nothing happens to her no matter what. but you have to understand the mindset of the people you are dealing with. those that know she is with a foreigner are extremely jealous. and everyday more and more anger is built up . they believe women  are property of chinese men. working in law enforcement adds to it. (i can't think of the term now) but having a little bit of power over other  people is corrupting to unstable minds.

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IF IF IF there is a War... I think it would be mostly a war of the Seas.... This is not a threat to the Worlds security as you have seen recently... Your thinking to much Iraq when you should be thinking more along the lines of Falkland Islands between England and Argentina... No country has any desire or has threatened to invade.. ( not yet anyways)

Its a dispute over the Islands. The battle in theory would happen in the water around the Islands.

 

If it does escalate.... I think right now you dont need to worry about MObs so much, from either Chinese or Japanese... They hate the Japanese right now, not everyone else... But if any foreign countries ( America!) support Japan or take any action  agaisnt China... Run! American or Not... just run

crimochina:

your missing the point. argentina and uk are reasonable sane countries and people. china is a country full of ignorant potentially violent nationalists. and they are extremely jealous of foreigners. 

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Get out and ask for political asylum for my wife. Realistically though I'd be incredibly surprised if it came to that. I think that China is probably more likely to offer a settlement that involves a great deal of cash and that gives them access to oil that's under the island while allowing Japanese fishermen access to the waters immediately around the island.   

 

The alternative is that they try to take the island by force and hope that the US doesn't intervene. If it does then there is a very good chance that China will lose a lot of what its gained in the last three decades. In a single foreign policy maneuver China could potentially lose  a portion of its fleet and air force,  its largest trading partner, and an growth rate that exceeds 8%. Worst of all, they may lose the confidence that the Chinese people have in their Government's ability to represent their interests abroad. You can't go about telling people that the 100 years of humiliation they suffered have ended, then go about losing a territorial disputes.

 

All of that is a great deal to bet on the US not entering into a war. A settlement is likely.

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out of the Japan thing for a second what happened with the Philippines and the gripe china had with them early this year? 

 

 

GuilinRaf:

I am guessing that they take turns. Last year it was Vietnam, then came the Philippines, now it is Japans turn. Kind of like those martial arts movies, where the "bad guys" fight the "good guy" one at a time.

I wonder who is next in queue?

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kiss your !@# goodbye

Createach:

How about you do that for me?!!!

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esi hope you can speak another languge mi no habla engles senor habla espanol por favor .donde es peche airport

Createach:

Seriously i can speak bullshit........Does that count as a language?!!!!!

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i just hope u have an exit plan it really isnt funny and i hope you have a lot of cash at your disposal

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I know what you feel mate..don't worry.....we helped this society by teaching their children or trading here.....we are the friendly guys.....we are the expats....and Lord will always be there with us.........and i deeply apologize infront of the forum and the gentlemen in this forum for my previous jokes and comments to your answers..............One Destiny and one Soul we expats are in china...God Bless you mate and all the victims of the US embassies around the world

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Anybody watched that movie 55 Days in Peking?surprise

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  People are just animals. All of them: Chinese, American, the Goddam British, all 'n' each 'n' every one of 'em; animals. So if shit goes down and your name is on the wrong flag, you'll get fucked. Just like all the thousands of Japanese-Americans of rightful standing on American soil that got imprisoned after Pearl Harbor (sorry for picking an American reference, all you Aaaamericaaans, it was just the first one that came to mind). People are just stupid animals. Nothing you can do about it.

crimochina:

i love how wumaos try to say everyone is the same as chinese.  remember wumao we live in china. only one group behaves more like animals ask hong kongers. 

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mArtiAn:

  You're an idiot.

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Createach:

i don't think he is a wu mao...........Everybody has his own shit and bad deeds weither Chinese or foreigners......It takes courge to say that in public....Crimo i Beg the pardon for you from martian.........Don't call a fellow expat a wu mao.......I don't think he came all the way to china to become a wu mao

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  Haha, Createach, you're a good sport. A fine gentleman indeed. I think if Crimo is honest with himself he knows i'm not a bleeding wumao. I mean, it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that i'm a native English speaker, and like you said, why would someone come all the way to China to work for five mao a pop? Them don't look like good wages to mArtiAn. Nope, if his gray matter is still intact, he knows damn well i'm just a bloke with opposing views to his own. But then he'd have to admit making so many false accusations. And that, in his culture, would mean loss of face. Haha. So he'll continue. And everyone else will laugh each time they read it.

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Createach:

Said my mind mate.......just said my mind

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GuilinRaf:

I sure as heck did not come from the States to be a Wu Mao!

Make it SEVEN mao, and i may think about it...

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China has more than 14 borders, so one can escape.

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war won't happen.........

 

still, something may happen to us.....

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Maybe this article might shed some light on the issue for those of you in the dark.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Manthorpe+Chinese+leaders+orchestrate+anti+Japanese+protests/7256308/story.html

Just a whole lot of huffing and puffing and posturing.

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