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Q: What will you do in this situation

Teachers, if the learning centers/schools you work for ask you not to tell the students which country you're from, but say you're from US, UK or Canada, what will you do?

 

Or when business events will recruit random ppl of other nationalities to attend as professional experts, will you go for it?

 

Don't mean to flame lengthy debate here but if you wish to, well... Just your honest feedback, please. P.E.A.C.E!

25 weeks 1 day ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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That would be time for me to start looking for a different job. 
Of course, I wouldn't need to lie about my nationality, but I've been in situations where parents gave me very strange looks as they tried to figure out why I had such a different accent from Boris, Natasha, Anastasia, and Ivan. 

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That would be time for me to start looking for a different job. 
Of course, I wouldn't need to lie about my nationality, but I've been in situations where parents gave me very strange looks as they tried to figure out why I had such a different accent from Boris, Natasha, Anastasia, and Ivan. 

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I have no problem attending as a "Foreign Face," though, honestly, the last time I was asked to do so was years ago.

 

I also have no problem not telling students where I am from -- but as a teacher of spoken English who speaks an American dialect it might be difficult to hide my nationality (though, I can possibly pass for Canadian).

 

I can't really see why either of these would be an issue.

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The OP WangNan2020 said:
"Well the first question was intended for non-US/UK/Canada nationals. Thanks for your comments anyway."
So we can assume the question was a trap, ala, The Hundred Flowers Campaign 百花齐放 that worked so well, since apparently, according to him, only people from 3 countries are native speakers and thus meet the requirements to teach English in China.

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I'd be more surprised if they ever told the truth...their lying just seems natural to me now.

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Well its quite simple really. When a person who can't legally work is told by someone willing to hire them that they should say they are from Canada US ect....10 times out of 10 they are going to do it. The only time they will tell the truth is when they are about to quit or about to get fired....and then teacher Barack Obama's real Nigerian birth certificate comes out. Schools in china lie more than shady used car salesmen.

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I wasn't ever asked to lie to students about my origin anywhere I worked and I wouldn't do it. What for?

I was always accepted by students as an English teacher and I've never needed shade "I am Native English teacher ..."

In Istanbul, I had to replace Native English teachers several times ... 'cause students 'didn't understand their teacher ...' ... and as the management told me, students required native English teacher before the start of the classes.

 

I was once let go at ET Tangshan because I am not native Englisher ... At least, that was the reason S. African DOS gave me. 

 

The thingy at English teaching I realized very soon is "I have problem as soon as students don't understand me, i.e. my pronunciation ...", so I speak English with clear, neutral accent once I am in the classroom.

 

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We've all heard the Sergey from Canada jokes. I'd be interested to hear what you would do in a similar situation.

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Can I jump in with Q/wrench of my own? OK,  thanks! 

 

How would you reply to a students' Q:

"Where are you from?"  or "Where do you come from?"  , if you wouldn't be from native English country?

 

 

Hint: Your A should prevent inferiority complex in front of the students since you aren't native Englisher ... thus your English isn't that good ...  surprise

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to the OP, 

if your employer asked you to say that you were Japanese to customers/clients, would you do so?

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@ WangNan, 

what are your thoughts on your questions?

 

would you pretend to be other than Chinese if your employer asked you to do so for customers?

Would you attend a business event as a token Chinese person?

 

Your input/answers will help our understanding of how Chinese people view themselves and the world - and i have often been told by Chinese people that 'i don't understand China'.

Your answers to the 2 questions above can help us all understand China more.

 

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Seriously WangNan

all you needed to do was answer your own question, with if you would (or wouldn't) pose as a Japanese person if your employer asked you to.

 

it is no different really from the question you posted.

It would show that you were willing to engage with forum users and not just be doing what my experience of a majority of Chinese people do is ask question after question without doing the basic courtesy of replying. This is human communication 101, and i can see that you are logging into this forum.

 

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WangNan, 

do you know how rude it is not to answer a civil question?

we can all see that you can insult people in English. Wow - your 'burns of Sandnose are ace !!!

can you please show that you have a courteous side too - you know the side that shows the best of Chinese culture?

 

thanks

 

Sorrel

 

 

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why do you respond only to 'offensive' comments, and no civil questions?

your 'European' friend would certainly have told you how ignorant this kind of behaviour is - children soon learn that a civil question requires a civil answer.

 

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thanks for FINALLY answering my question, but why so long in responding to me?

you seemed happy to engage with Sandnose but not me.

 

the non-Chinese on this site ask and answer questions to understand China more, and when a 'Chinese' person posts, and we would consider it normal (and civil) to get answers to straightforwrd and non-controversial questions.

hence my question

https://answers.echinacities.com/question/why-do-chinese-people-not-answer-questions?type=alatest#answer000

 

it is ignorant for an employer to ask an employee to pretend to be another nationality, yet China appears to be the only country (i know of) that does this.

Why would this be?

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It's interesting to see how things are going down along this subject. Online is chaos, lengthy debate go nowhere. But still they come uninvited LOL!

Look guys, simple questions need simple answers. For those who give straight/honest feedbacks, big thank-you.

@sandnose @sorrel you came in this thread all pumped up with a predisposition, an intention to distract subject and scale it out of control, I avoid answering your questioning. Not because I'm a fucking Chinese beta-male with no balls (in your language), but because that to argue with dumbasses makes oneself look like a dumbass.

Oh and, @sorrel sorry for my delayed reply, my dad checked in hospital last week and I was busy in the ward, thanks for your full attention and longing for my response anyway.

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