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Q: What would happen if we did the same?
With all the regulations and requirements, restrictions and downright bullshit we face here on a day-to-day basis; what do you think would happen if the whole world were to start treating Chinese the way they treat us?
Discuss!
They'd carry on as they always do
In southern Europe, there is a huge amount of organized smuggling going on. This is Chinese "businessmen" who fly their payment back to China in cash, who cheat and lie, who do not follow rules, but when confronted, they are not aware they are not going down the right path. They simply "do it the Chinese way"
China and it's people are in lockstep. It doesn't matter what you try and impose, nothing changes.
Scandinavian:
yeah, the clothing industry could get a better reputation, if "Made in Italy" didn't imply Chinese workers without visa, working in a dangerous environment.
Have you ever met someone trying to immigrate to Europe? it's a thousand times worse than coming here. There is just as much bullshit to go through, and if you're there illegally you get put in a detention center for months at a time. Also, read a history book, Chinese people have not had it particularly good in any country they immigrated to...
DrMonkey:
For having it hard to emigrate to Europe, yes, I saw first hand. Actually just *visiting* Europe, if you have the income of an average city dweller, good luck :p For having it hard once emigrated, in the past, yes, definitely (until 1950). Nowadays, it improved a lot. Some became mayors, there's no discrimination at employment, much less daily petty annoyances, etc.
RiriRiri:
It's a thousand times worse because of pragmatic reasons and a sad list of precedents.
And whose fault is it if no one will ever trust their word or signature without half a ton of official scriptures to prove anything? They can only blame themselves for having so much bullshit to go through. Not anyone else.
hunana:
It's not just Chinese though, it's people from any country (unless you're EU in Europe, or North American in the US or Canada). Unless you're rich, emigrating is always going to be difficult. I think it's easy for Western people to take for granted how easy it is for us to travel and work in different places. My African friends laugh their heads off when I complain about visa problems...
By that, I assume you are talking about long term expatriates, not just short term tourists/exchange students or whatever.
I don't think anything should be different for anyone, I'm all for justice and equity between all citizens of a country and even foreigners whoever they are. But if double standards were to be imposed on Chinese, I suppose it would happen like Scandinavian said.
On the other hand, I think that people should not be allowed to apply for long term residency status on the simple basis of money, but should be required to contribute as well (by having a job or a special talent... actually just speaking the language will do temporarily), and yes, I think this because of the swarming Chinese new rich immigrants, who definitely are people I don't want to share my homeland with for the most part.
I'll even go as far as saying I have more respect for illegal migrants, because those people didn't just buy a GTFO product to an agent, but actually took a huge risk and would probably try much harder to understand the place than your average rich corrupt dumbass and his family.
Maybe harder to get into other countries but once accepted, you're in like Flynn. Canada is tough for Chinese to emigrate to but once accepted, there's no restrictions on where they live, move to within the country, random police checks, or restrictions on employment.
maybe you will complete one requirement of getting the Chinese Green Card 
i really dont have a problem at all with the way china handles visa laws...i mean fair enough they get to choose.
my problem is that they also want to take advantage of everyone else.
i feel like they want to "win" at all times and are keeping score, even where other countries don't.
they want to be able to invest abroad and hire only chinese nationals, and they know that doesn't really help the local economy, and they also want to make sure that others cant do this to them.
thats kinda what the opium war was all about, they wanted to dictate terms from a dominant position, not have mutually beneficial agreements. Its kinda awesome just how thoroughly they were humiliated after that.
RiriRiri:
Totally agreed. Absolute refusal to learn anything from the past.
expatlife26:
I'm not a religious man at all...but I think the Golden Rule (do unto others etc.) is a good starting point for some kind of universal morality.
Treat others as you want to be treated. So the reason I can't respect people's attitudes here is that they don't subscribe to that. Japan was wrong...for hurting china...not wrong for being genocidal fascists.
Anytime somebody here bitches about something, I figure that what they're bitching about is their own powerlessness...not that whatever bothers them is wrong. "The rich shouldn't bully people!" really means "I wish I was rich so I could be the one bullying people"
