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Q: What would you do? (Chinese prisons)

RiC's post about the DNA test, but the second linked article.

 

Basically, if you're getting screwed over by the Chinese legal system (ie, in jail with NO suggestions of getting out without your televised confession) - what would you do? (presuming you are innocent, of course!)

 

Confess?

 

Try to go public through your country's media? Even though in the past, it has made things worse for those inside (but later better, with the scars to show).

 

Just stay quiet and hope?

 

Remember, China has a poor record on human rights for those in jail...

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Im to pretty to go to jail,
You should be fine though.

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I don't see a problem with openly confessing on CCTV. Even the most brainwashed of the masses knows that the "quality" of the CCTV news is Fox News level. (although they probably don't know Fox News) 

 

It might be difficult to stay in China after a confession, but then there is the rest of the world. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35813470

 

Shining_brow:

Awwww... pooor Anders.... boo hoo....

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Really, westerners must understand what it's like to be in countries like China, North Korea, Russia and other countries with no legal system. 

Limit what you do, who you talk to, and pray.

He was staying in an apartment rented by someone else, why would someone do that? And then the whole visiting factories that were producing drugs. 

I read things carefully, I notice no one was railing and screaming that he's innocent and didn't do it. They're critiquing the evidence. 

Yeah the last bit of advice I have to give is this, keep your nose clean .

I hate it when dumb fucks commit a crime and bitch amount 'you can't prove', 'you don't have the evidence'. If you did it fuck you deal with the punishment. Don't go to other countries to commit crimes.

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"Hey , guys - he's innocent".

 

"Oh, crap! Really? Damn! Ok, we'll let him go now. Sorry about that."

 

 

Yeah - happens a lot!

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I had to face this issue, in principle, when i was in jail. I was willing to do my time for knocking the guy out, but I refused to pay any compensation. After all it was he came to my house trying to bust down my door. It was he who dragged my pregnant wife and child out of her home. In my eyes, he deserved it. But after they saw I wasnt going to cough up any money, they trumpted up the charges (the equivilent to going from a misdemeanor to a felony) and scared my wife, telling her if we didnt pay restitution, I will stay in jail longer. Much longer. I gave in because my wife was scared out of her wits, i had no lawyer and they gave me no proof or evidence of these greater charges. They said I had to make an instant decision or they would take me to another more permanent prison. I thought it was just a bluff, but I didn't want my family to suffer any more for just 20K and my principles.

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And you still live in China? Amazing. Something along those lines would have me leave without looking back.

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Did you ever bother calling your embassy? Or telling the cops that your media back home will be getting the story?

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@silver - It was just a 15 day detention. I look at it as a bit of an adventure and a good story. I admit I was a little afraid, especially after the local media reported their own version of the story, but this is China. This is part of what I came to experience. Running from it would be counterproductive. @shining - that would have been a bluff. There was no way to contact foreign media and the police contacted the Embassy when I was arrested (they were a little confused about protocol). Anyways, on principle, I never bluff! If I say I know or have or did something, you can take it to the bank. Otherwise I dont say anything.

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He's black, the media would never pick up the story.  Xinyun is a perfect example, after that he still trashes America and kisses China's ass. 

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