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Q: What's happening in France?

I watched the footage of the riots on the news and they were talking to a guy who was saying it was about the high cost of living, increasing taxes for the normal working people while the rich get tax breaks.

 

Has anyone been following the situation? Is there more to it? From what I understand what started as a protest against fuel prices morphed into various interest groups going out to smash up the city and use it to further their own cause.

 

 

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The globalists versus nationalism

 

The urban elites against the thugs in the countryside

 

The office workers against the people who get their hands dirty

 

Same old story, different century.

 

They still can't understand that making rich people pay will cause them to leave, like the 10 thousand millionaires that have left in the last decade, so you repeat the same stupid policy, raise the taxes again.

 

Since they wrote the global warming CO2 reduction treaty, they have to be the shining light of its wisdom by raising taxes on fuel to the point that 4 liters is $7.25. People with no production jobs because the globalists sent them to third world countries can't commute to the rich folks in urban areas at those prices.

 

This was a carbon tax not a fuel tax, and it was supposed to be raised by the same incremental amount each year over a five year period. After 5 years a liter of fuel would be 2.50 Euros, crazy idiots.

 

Macron was a third party substitute because the left was afraid of a right winger and half the people left and right did not want him. The right winger would not have caused riots in the streets by raising fuel taxes, quite certain of that.

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It's nuts. It feels like I'm some out-of-touch weirdo talking about completely different things than the media.

I don't trust the tales. I don't believe the protests morphed into violence and pillaging naturally. I believe the discontent was commandeered by foreign agents to further an agenda.

I doesn't help that Trump is gloating about his recently-defriended buddy Macron's woes, but I don't think he is responsible.

It's originally about fuel prices, so I look towards OPEC, the falling oil prices, and that slimy, murderous royal family in Saudi Arabia. This protest would have people believe that there is public revulsion against environmentalist policy.

The vast majority of people want their government to motivate business to provide more sustainable energy services. But that will leave sellers of fossil fuels out of pocket. I don't know the full story, but my instincts tell me this is a ploy from oil sellers to re-establish dwindling demand for their fossil products.

There are legitimate, non-violent protests, focused around French cities. Then there's a number of dishonest rabble-rousers happily exporting their violent pillaging 'protest' into other countries' cities, like Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany. These countries had no protests and different gov't policy, different leaders and different sentiments. The mercenary thugs don't care, probably because OPEC supports their efforts to throw shade at environmentalist policy. It's all good for oil sales.

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haha,,, lotta people don't know,,, but lotta historians agree,,, when cute, sweet, naughty to the max Marie threw out the alternative 'let them eat cake' (there was no bread available to the nongmin at the time), she actually said that like it was ok.

Yeah, it was a helluva long way from a reasoned response, but some believe she was not using sarcasm, cruelty, disinterest.  She just said.... eat cake if u don't have bread,,,  haha,, actually just a sweet, dumb, young, sheltered, spoiled rich kid.  Funny the price she paid....

Wonder if Paris is bringing another CR ?  Both would and wouldn't surprise me.  The desire is there, but I doubt their follow-through.

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Yes, I am following through my daily 'ZeroHedge'. Yesterday were (Zero) following French Spec Police bringing huge armored cars to the Paris vicinity. Gov. is/was apparently afraid of Coup d'etat ... Ruski RT was reporting yesterday, too ...

 

125,000 French Take To Streets As Trump Trolls Macron; Protester's Hand Blown Off In Graphic Video

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Thanks, some good insights there.

 

From where I'm sitting it sort of feels like it started with the issues that Ambi talked about. People get pissed off at the wealth gap, nothing new there. Can't get ahead because everything is so fecking expensive, nothing new there either, seems to be the way the world is now.

 

But that in itself isn't THAT big a thing. People will protest and complain but this is starting to look like the beginning of something a lot bigger. A bit like factory workers going on strike over pay demands or something, yeah they're pissed and frustrated but they're not going to demolish the factory over it, they just want to make their point, resolve the issue and get back to work asap.

 

I agree with Coin in that this feels like a lot is going on behind the scenes and the original protests were manipulated by outside forces.

 

Reading the headlines on Reddit today it sounds like there are extreme left wing, right wing, anarchist groups and maybe Russia involved as well as the usual opportunist looters and thugs who turn out for things like this.

 

Really makes me wonder who, if anyone, is pulling their strings. My money is on the oil companies. Russia possibly being involved might point to that.

 

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frnech people are addicted to strikes. revolution is in their blood. the number of times i've been stuck at the french end of the channel tunnel  beacause of a strike, is ridiculous. just get on and do your bloody job and forget about the next strike

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/elite-french-police-launch-str...

A massive manhunt has been underway for the suspected shooter, 29-year-old French citizen Cherif Chekatt, as some 720 police and gendarmes have been looking for him nearly 36 hours after the incident at the popular Christmas market just a few blocks from the European Parliament.

 

  • The suspect, Cherif Chekatt, 29, was born and raised in Strasbourg

 

"I shot the Cherif but I did not shoot the deputy ..." 

 in "Allan's Snack Bar" 

 

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'Frogs' are out again ... to get Macaron ...

 

Bare-Breasted 'Mariannes' Face Off With French Police; Tear Gas, Pepper Spray Used On Protestjng Yellow Vests 

 

"This is for the institutions - we want more direct democracysurprise

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