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Q: What's the penalty for plagiarism in Chinese universities?

I don't know about fellow teachers here, but my kids have pretty much mastered the art of plagiarism. I have to push them to extremes for them to come up with an original thought. By default, they'll look for something someone wrote on the topic and either re-write it verbatim or plagiarize.

 

I've tried warning them things would be different in university and they'd be risking a lot...but that may have partly been empty threats, as I don't know what the penalty actually is in Chinese universities.

8 years 29 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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The penalty for plagiarism at a Chinese university is a degree from them.

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Penalty? Not a chance.

 

The Chinese university teachers don't care about it and certainly wouldn't be bothered to check for it either. I would venture to say it's encouraged. Remember, here, the end result is all that matters. It is of no concern to any of the locals how the result is reached. 

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You retake the test or re do the paper.

I once failed and entire class because they plagiarized an essay (even though this was an oral class, the head of the department wanted a written essay as part of the final).  NO ONE could understand why I failed them all nor  why I was so angry.

I have never again gave any written assignments, even when ordered to. I would just say "Oh, I will give it to you later".
Two of my students who went overseas plagiarized. One in Australia and one in the UK. And I had warned them specifically not to do so and what the penalty would be. They were dismissed from the overseas program AFTER their parents had saved and saved so that they could study overseas.

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Penalty?? I think a 30K/month job, plus regular promotions... for thinking smart enough to do nothing and trying to get away with it.

 

the papers my kids have to write aren't assessed... (well, most of them). If they were, then yeah, they'd hate me more than they already do Smile (I've already got 3 definite fails - and they haven't have final exams yet... I LOVE it! Laughing out loud Just waiting for the complaining, screaming and bitching to come from those who aren't allowed to take the final exam, due to excessive absenteeism... something they've already gotten in trouble for in previous semesters...)

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no penalty they become the leaders and the bosses.

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I usually ask my students to do little writing assignments. I simply don't have enough time to talk to them all as much as I would like, so I don't grade on spelling or grammar. Usually I just ask them to answer some questions, but once I thought it might be more fun if they had a choice to write a story about 2 animals instead. Like I said, it was a choice, their other option was to answer some questions as usual. Out of 8 classes, 7 had either one or no people plagiarizing. But for some reason, in one of my freshman classes, half of the class either didn't show up or plagiarized some story from the internet. When I was grading their papers, I noticed that their English seemed to be too good, so I went through and put certain phrases in Google online and sure enough, quite a few had found their stories online. It's only worth 5 points, and they only have to write 5 sentences. Why would they do that? Why? I don't get it. Why just the one class? Why on only this one assignment? I gave those copiers only 3 points. I shouldn't have given them any, but maybe I am too nice. I give them these small writing assignments, partly for attendance, but mostly so they can practice their English because they don't talk (except to each other). I'm only giving 6 of them this semester, and I give them 20 minutes, which is enough for most of them, and then I go on but they can keep writing if they like. So why plagiarize? It blows my mind.

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is re-writing (as long as u state the source) considered plagiarism? i hope not...

 

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harsh and swift

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Given that one of the Chinese teachers here asked me to 'help' write two linguistics articles for publication, I gather that cheating is expected. 

In general cheating in various forms is viewed as smart and efficient. What I don't get is the students who write well will copy an entire gosh-awful Chinglish essay/thesis/whatever from the internet rather than write something themselves.
A student once copied a wiki article including the [edit] links and insisted I must accept it and give her the top grade because it was well-written.
Control C + control V does not constitute writing.

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A degree.

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Hahaha I just barely passed my exams, so let me tell you a story.

I've been in the renowned Beijing Language and Culture University for 3 years now, and I passed my exams 2 weeks ago. I got the results a few days ago, and to my greatest surprise, I passed this one exam in particular.  The exam for the class about Chinese culture and all that. Now, as you may have guessed, I'm your average white middle class slacker kid, so of course I didn't do shit for those 3 years but playing video games and talking in Chinese OUTSIDE of school.

Anyway, as I said, I passed this one exam. It was supposed to be in 2 parts, the first one being a big essay about any subject related to the Chinese culture, the second part being an oral presentation about their culture as well.

So what happened, of course, is that I waited until the deadline's (read: Last day of that class) eve to rush a little oral presentation (which I started at 4am), which I managed to do... But I still hadn't done the 2000 words essay. I thought I'd find a way to get around that, and went on ahead to school. I did a terrible, terrible job during the presentation, and then realized my subject was totally unrelated to what was asked. "I'm done for", I thought. Then the teacher asked for the essay, I said I hadn't printed it or something, but she told me I had to give it back to her BEFORE 1PM. It was already 10 AM, so me and my friend (oh yeah I forgot, we both were in the same situation) went to his home and Baidu'd random shit about Chinese festivals. I picked the first link I found, copy-pasted that bitch into Word, deleted the hyperlinks and pictures, removed some useless paragraphs and made a small intro myself (which shows a great contrast between it and the text following when it comes to quality and the grammar level). Then we proceeded to play a little game of DotA just in case.

We made it right on time (huskar imba), and gave it to the teacher, just to at least be able to say we gave something.

The last week I got my resuslts, and I had 66 points on that exam. I passed with 6 points to spare. For copypasting an essay (with almost no editing), and doing an unrelated oral presentation.

My teacher is so damn cool.

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you have to sleep with the teacher

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Mr. Spoon. 'me and my friend' - university student? come on.....

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A diploma!

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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2169730/tsinghua-university-says-it-revoked-phd-after-blog-reveals

 

Well this has been long overdue, but the problem is exponentially worse than one isolated case.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-china-reused-identical-scientific-121658711.html

 

copy research for a pandemic, what could possibly go wrong?

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The penalty for plagiarism at a Chinese university is a degree from them.

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