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Q: What's wrong with those customers?

They kept telling me that they would pay but never paid. Lair...

 

Some customer always promised that they would pay today then never paid then again next day promised would pay me then again never paid. 

 

It drived me so mad? Why they kept lying and gave empty promise to supplier. Looks cheap to not even able to keep a word. When I promised customer I would send him price by today, I would try my best to send customer on time.

 

Then look at those lying customers? 

6 years 18 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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You call your boss a scammer, which he may well be, but in turn you are scamming your boss by stealing his customers. So you are both dishonest scammers. Of course you will come up with some pathetic excuse that your scamming is ok while his is not. There is no difference between you and your boss, both of you are unprofessional, dishonest and unethical. And people wonder why China is not trusted, it is because of the widespread acceptance of this lowlife behaviour. New buildings etcetera do not make a country great, it is the people who make the country great, and while these attitudes persist this is all China will be, a country full of thieves and scammers. Apologies to the genuinely good people I have met here but you are heavily outnumbered by the peasants like Vicki and her boss.

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cusromer is  ALWAYS  right

Viki87:

Bullshit. I notice a lot are just liars

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 Did you notice they were just like your boss when they stall payments? Indians were also infamous for this in the business circle. I have never heard anyone said they enjoyed doing business with them when they were on the money receiving end.

 

In prc, it was (is) a standard practice to stall payment of salary for one month in many fields, this includes restaurants, KTVs,  factories, the reason being the workers were untrustworthy, if you pay them at month end, for those who planned to leave they vaporize immediately after getting the money without giving the boss notice.  Ruthless, law of the jungle scenario as the legal system was a laugh.  

 

This was the best case scenario already, some, holding a grudge or not, would steal whatever they could and take it with them.   Thieves den, boss and employees alike.  Thieves have no trust among themselves. They were smart and correct!

Viki87:

I didn't say they are Indians, even my Indian customer didn't keep promise to pay as the date they told, but they paid fast without much day delayed. So many western customers keep this shits up and acted cheap, the worst one is the Iranian,kept the drama on and told me would pay today, then today again then 100% pay it today and even gave me call to give notice. Wtf. Really the worst untrustworthy customer I have are the Iranian and the South African customers. The best customer who always paid on time destoried by my nasty boss, he kept giving his words that he could deliver products online, customer got confirmed with on time delivery, and paid money for the second order on time as he told. Then turned out the boss could not even deliver the products on time and didn't even give the client refund.Looks like a big scam to me, I feel sorry for the client, it is a Middle East customer.

FYI: The boss is a big scammer and nasty person. I don't feel sorry steal his customer. He kept his drama up again and didn't pay me again. I am already on the process of negotiating order details with another customer I just stole. My main focus to continue staying on this company is stealing customers.

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I didn't say your customers were Indians. So, you also have Indian customers who did not pay on time which was hardly surprising. Iranians and South Africans were the new ones on the block, just like prc mainlanders. None of these groups were known for their honesty and integrity. Underdeveloped countries always have these problems.

 

"The boss is a big scammer and nasty person. I don't feel sorry steal his customer. "

 

Pacticing an eye for an eye in a thieves den speeds the ruthless cycle of evil up. This is a downward spiral,  evil begets evil. 

 

Believe it or not, karma ensures others will steal from you in the future.  A better way is to stop your stealing. If you do that desirable changes will come. If not, the same cycle repeats, same story for the rest of your life. Only you can help yourself in this regard, no one else can.

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You call your boss a scammer, which he may well be, but in turn you are scamming your boss by stealing his customers. So you are both dishonest scammers. Of course you will come up with some pathetic excuse that your scamming is ok while his is not. There is no difference between you and your boss, both of you are unprofessional, dishonest and unethical. And people wonder why China is not trusted, it is because of the widespread acceptance of this lowlife behaviour. New buildings etcetera do not make a country great, it is the people who make the country great, and while these attitudes persist this is all China will be, a country full of thieves and scammers. Apologies to the genuinely good people I have met here but you are heavily outnumbered by the peasants like Vicki and her boss.

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Vicki, it could be worse, much worse, when I ran businesses in Africa, we had to use a letter of credit with a third party escrow out of Switzerland or Singapore. The customers in Africa were so despicable and unreliable that the money was held by the third party escrow to paid contingent on the signed proof of delivery at the port after customs inspection except Nigeria were the customs officer would take a bribe to declare the goods "contaminated" and seize for free to the customer, Nigeria had to pay in advance for everything,

 

In America many clients would be required to send me a post dated check 30 days from delivery date because they had a history of never paying on time.

The worst one's are the big corporations, Walmart never paid before 90 days a supplier, as well as General Electric, in America so I always told them to kiss my ass and we only did COD for them and the government always paid in 90 days, never sell anything to the US government.

ambivalentmace:

I once had to pay a banker a bribe of 7 percent of an invoice in Guinea at the Central Bank to get paid in 60 days instead of 9 months for some "Guess" jeans that had already been shipped and payment received by the Guinean government but our half as a 50/50 partner was being held up and not forwarded, I told Harry Stone at American Greetings not to invest in Africa, but he like many others lost his ass on many deals there.

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This iranian customer kept asking me to set the payment link up but never paid, so I canceled the payment link I set on alibaba for him to make a pay there. 

 

Then Yesterday they asked me to open the payment link again and said that they would pay me today. Today I still found they did not even paid, such a liar. They did this to me for many times already/ I already told them to only ask me to set up the link when they decide to buy.Those bastard kept this going on and on never stop. It drives me very mad. what should I do? How come they just keep the empty promise up again and again? I wonder why they do that.

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blacklst thm n move on.

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This iranian company kept standing me up for like 4-5 times. Last time told me that he's in bank and asked me to email him the payment link and he would make a pay. Then I scarificed my bed time a bit to send payment links, it was about 11pm-12am. Then this morning I found out that he doesn't even made payment. They

have been telling me like that for 4-5 times already.

I am extremely mad about that, it is totally fine to not want to buy from me but really k

eep this drama up over and over again drive people mad.

Do they have issue or something? Why keep this up again and again just nonstop?

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After told him that I do not trust them anymore and close teh deal with them. That boss's brother sent me message again this morning: If you get mad like that is not good for your business you send me picture so I cannot click on it confirm this so i canme=ake payment

 

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Oh Look! A penny!

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