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Q: When is a contract valid?
Hello,
So I signed a contract which I thought was clear once arriving they have interpreted something different. I don't like the interpretation and want to leave. I have not signed the contract here, does this matter? I was under the impression the contract signed at home which for me is America does not matter. Basically want to know if I have options to leave without being blacklisted.
9 years 25 weeks ago in Business & Jobs - China
You have been asking the same questions about contract, visas and companies for over for a year.
Literally the same questions, with phrasing variations.
See, this is you http://answers.echinacities.com/question/after-contract-signed
See the answer Sorrel gave ? It could apply to your new question. So could these answers from another of YOUR questions http://answers.echinacities.com/question/if-you-sign-contract-are-you-stuck
So, you know, after nearly a year of being obsessed about these issues, you should be starting to know better, shouldn't you.
By the look of you mentioning "blacklist" and the complete absence of specifics or involvement in your statements, I'm starting to suspect something else, though.
star32569:
Why does it bother you. Move on and my questions are at different institutions. I signed a contract thought I learned from the last one and they got me again with hours. Rather than suffer I want to pull out. What is so hard to get and why is it a crime to ask. Before I had already signed and was stuck now I am here and have not signed.
Englteachted:
I think this could be a troll trying to establish himself.
When is a contract valid?
When the contract is not inside China.
Contract is valid as soon as SAFEA issue Foreign Expert Certificate.
If SAFEA deny issuing FEC, Contract isn't valid.
School in Taizhou, Jiangsu applied for my FEC in June, 2014, and apparently SAFEA denied issuing FEC, because I'm Non-native English teacher.
As per my phone call to Jiangsu SAFEA, officer told me Contract isn't valid till SAFEA doesn't issue FEC, and I should return home, despite I was extending valid RPermit issued in 2010.
Let's move in now!
I have also noticed a distinct pattern in the star's posts.
He/she is always hard done by and on the receiving end of unfair treatment and wants to bail.
It is time to look at yourself and decide whether you are the sort of person who honors their commitments or the sort that just runs away when everything isn't going their way.
Little Emperor syndrome with western characteristics?
not every job is going to be 100% perfect.
you have to learn to combine flexibility with firmness and pick your battles.
the contract you signed in America should be the same as the one when you arrive in China.
What made you think the one you received and signed in America was not valid?
You only have a problem if they have presented you with one that is different from the one you received in America.
Maybe during the contract negotiations you didn't clarify ambiguities, i can't remember if you were advised to do this or not.
sorrel:
i could add the following:
assuming you arrived on a 'Z' visa, you validated/agreed the contract by accepting the terms and conditions and traveling on the official documents they provided.
differences in interpretation should lead to professional and courteous discussion to clarify misunderstandings - again, all of this should have taken place before you arrived there.
Unless you are more clear to exactly what is being misinterpreted, in your opinion, anyone here will be unable to make any practical suggestions.
star32569:
Contract was vague to me said 18hrs and I expected 18 classes schedule they sent said such. Then when I land they say they can give me 27 because they add a class by the minutes so 40 minutes added up to 18. I would rather just bow out rather than remain unhappy with the conditions.
Shining_brow:
This detail is extremely common, and is discussed at length on every ESL forum! If you don't do your homework, and you fail the final test, who's fault is it??
