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Q: Where's Has the 100% Beef Gone In China Fast Food Burgers?

When Burger King and McDonalds first came to China they were a huge hit because Chinese could buy and enjoy something that was 100% real - pure beef burgers. Now that the price of 100% beef has gone through the roof, you will notice that they no longer advertise 100% beef, but consumers are not told they are now eating 50% soy product. Yet we still pay the same price and in some areas even more. Not Cool. 

 

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They still claim on the web site that the Whopper has 100% beef http://www.bkchina.cn/category.html

 

I didn't bother check up on McD, sure I have a bite to eat there once in a while but I would rather not burst the illusion of McD being eatable.

 

Damn, now I am hungry.

 

Why do you think it is 50% soy? I would not be surprised if they've mixed som soy in the rat meat, but still ? 

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Scandinavian + Grumpy = Perfect topic member couple.. BS answers for BS topics

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So you think burgers are a bs topic ? Well, lets just eat rice porridge all the time then. 

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Found myself in the local McD's the other day.  I have to say, the new burger they have is not bad.  German sausage double beef burger.  Two "beef" patties, two "german" sausages, and some spicy brown mustard.  Who knows what's in it...at least it doesn't give me laduzi.

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I tried it about a year ago, strange burger but oddly delightful. 

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Where else in the world would you expect to associate fast-food chains with sane and natural food. Hilarious.

 

China is already beyond non-return point and is not able to feed its populace, now relying mostly upon chemicals and GMO to fill the gap. Fortunately, people have no self respect and will accept to be fed tasteless garbage.

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I never expect anything to be real in China.  My wife was a pleasant surprise.

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You're completely way off base. Soy is not natural??? And being honest about what is in your food is bad?

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No, what I said is that the fact I expect more honesty and hygiene from big ass garbage giant fast food chains than from anyone else says everything one needs to know about this country.

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I got it

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They have a whole industry of fake meat and other food products , so why should Beef not be included

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Frankly I sort of expected this to happen. They used the huge 3 by 5 meter posters to advertise "100% Beef" and then a few months after they won over their hordes of customers, they ditched the posters and now use 5 point fonts to say "100% meat and soy products."  The lawyers could rake up big bugs in China if they could persuade the NPC to pass a "Truth In Advertising" law that the West has been using for three decades.  What a novel and ridiculous idea. After all... TIC. Now we at least know how they can afford to sell 10 yuan Big Macs. Only God knows what they'll be inserting into our food next.

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"Now that the price of 100% beef has gone through the roof, you will notice that they no longer advertise 100% beef, "

 

That is what you said . Now you are saying "after they won over the customers" 

Your first statement was accurate, the shift to 50% soy was in response to the price increase (you can't blame foreign country for that). So now you are claiming it was a ploy? You need to take a day and get your BS and talking points straightened out.

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Further proof you are not from outside of China. You have no clue as to what the truth in advertising laws are. 

Let me school you again. If I am serving 100% beef, I advertise "100% beef" . But when I shift to 50/50 soy /beef (for whatever reason . In this case the price of beef went up), I do not need advertise that it is 50% soy. I simply need to stop advertising 100% beef. But in the restaurant I should tell you it is 50% soy. Maybe you don't understand the difference between  advertising and information. Truth in advertising means at the time of the advertisement what is stated must be true.  

I can understand , you have no experience telling the truth.

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Read the small print the next time you go into BK or MD.  It no longer says "100% beef" and what it says now is "meat and soy products" according to my best translation.

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"Read the small print the next time you go into BK or MD.  It no longer says "100% beef" and what it says now is "meat and soy products" according to my best translation."

 

 

Again you are contradicting yourself. Which shows that you are an idiotic mouthpiece. 

You insinuate that MCD and BK can no longer be trusted. But you clearly state that they are telling exactly what you are buying?!  I can never understand why the govt attacks KFC, McD, Starbucks, Apple etc. The whole point of opening up in the early eighties was so that China could learn to compete in an open global  market. But after 30+ years the govt is responding with jealous and ignorance and many of the posters on this site feed into it.

According to you: When McD served 100% beef they told me so. Now they are serving 50% soy and they are telling me so.

Only in China honesty= distrust . But when your local  restaurants use urine laced card board or whatever toxic substances, this is considered acceptable in the govts eyes. Chinese people are generally becoming smarter consumers when it comes to food . And your post/ question is exactly the reason why they go to McDs , BK, KFC you name it. 

 

 

jetfire9000:

If BK's and Micky D's closed down, high school students wouldn't have anywhere to study, or socialize on Friday nights...

 

If they try to attack Star Bucks again like before ah, next time hellfire and damnation may break loose!

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Jet: don't forget the parents who take their children to eat there. I used to look at them with disgust but now I understand that they were more concerned about food safety than healthy food. 

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INTO MY TUMMY!!!!

 

A burger to the face solves everything.

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2 bigmacs into my face, pls...

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i thought Burger king branched out to  a dateing agencey

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Next to the limited selection of good fast food in China, Burger King is really good.

 

There is a Burger King almost across the street from my house in a crappy Chinese clothing shopping mall with a supermarket. I jumped and cried like a little schoolgirl seeing Justin Beiber when I first saw it being built. I usually go in there once to twice a week when I get off of work.

 

I get a Double Whopper (no cheese) with no tomato and extra onion with french fries. Their fries are pretty good. For the downside, most of their other food to me is crap. Their chicken sandwiches and nuggets are not that good. They actually have chili cheese fries but I have not been brave enough to try them. But that huge ass Double Whopper with fries fills me up.

 

What makes me happy is that the store there does good business. I was very afraid that the Chinese wont like it and not go there, and it is one of the few places where I am happy, even thrilled to wait in line. I want them to stay in business.

 

There is also a McDonalds nearby, but they suck ass, and the last time I went in there was the last time I will go in there. Dirty store, shit food, not worth my time. McDonalds makes a decent chicken sandwich and the fries are good when hot, but the place is shit, and McD's in China is shit (much more so than in the United States.)

 

Sue me, but I am a KFC fan. I even worked for a KFC as a teen in the United States. Here, for a period of time, they had the crispy chicken and not the original recipe and it was so goddamned good. I was hoping they would go full crispy, but I have been to my wife's hometown and they went from crispy back to original recipe.

 

There are so many good things they have in KFC America they do not have here. First, the Buttermilk biscuits. Why? I cannot believe that they would not love that here, instead of that shit bread they sell. No cole slaw. WTF? It's shredded cabbage, carrots and a bit of onion. Should be an Oriental's delight (Chinese and Koreans are geniuses because they make cabbage taste delicious). No beans either. The stores used to sell Heinz Baked Beans for several years and now NO ONE SELLS IT, to my painful chagrin. Franks and Beans baby. I do not care if I were a Billionaire, this would be a dish once a week.

 

Mac and Cheese, pot pies, parfait. It seems that anything good and delicious, the Chinese do not like. Picky eaters of crap they are.

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It is the same bait and switch trick that Walmart used back i the U.S.  If anyone remembers the original Walmart their first motto was "Walmart - Made in America" and everything sold in the store was made in America.  Then after they forced Woolworths, Kresge, and all the mom and pop stores out of business, they sourced everything from China, Malayasia, and quality went out the window for the sake of larger profit margins.  Deception is a main ingredient of consumer sales everywhere - not just in China.

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Again you are contradicting yourself. You said after the the cost of beef went up, they switched to 50% soy. When the cost of your materials go up, you as a company have 2 choices pass the cost on to your consumer or find a way to keep the cost down. They decided not to pass the cost down to the consumers and if they did you would on here complaining about the increased price. 

You really should get your facts straight, you are forcing me to defend companies I do not necessarily like. I can't recall Walmart ever being "made in America". Walmart exploded and took out the competition because they were importing cheap products from Asia. They advertised and promoted their roots as a family oriented "American values" business, maybe that confused you. 

And why does China's govt have a problem  with Walmart? Before I came back to China, I saw an ad that pledged that Walmart was going to shift to "made in America" . You know the reason for that? You, the Chinese govt has attacked Walmart for no reason. Walmart employs a crap load of people in China, indirectly. They have been the outlet to sell your products. If anyone should be attacking Walmart, it should be the US govt. 

I really don't get China's logic ; attacking the very companies that bring money into your country. Cheating and screwing the companies that feed your citizens. 

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I think this last poster "Engltacht"is too young to remember the great Walmart deception that predates public access to the inernet. But I remember how outraged my parents were when it as going down many moons ago.

 

Anyway,I think the important thing here is public disclosure of what people are consuming an the "clever" Chinese deceptions used by American companies to mislead us to believe we are still eating 100% beef burgers when we are not. Using huge 3 by 5 meter posters to advertise "100% beef" for months and then using 5 point fonts to say "meat and soy products" is totally dishonest and unethical. China needs to severely punish this fraud no matter how subtle it may be.

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"by American companies to mislead us to believe we are still eating 100% beef burgers when we are not. "

 

According to you they tell you that it is 50% soy in the information. So exactly how are they deceiving people? Are they saying 100% when they are not serving 100%. You do understand that what they say about some of the more expensive burgers do not apply to the cheaper burgers.

 

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Do you mouthpieces know the difference between "change" and "lie". If Walmart started out selling only products that were made in America and advertised "made in America". Then shifted to products made in Asia and stopped advertising "made in America" that is not dishonest. Where is the deception? 

If BK used 100% beef and advertised "100% beef" then changed to 50% soy and stopped advertising "100% beef" and informed consumers that the product was now 50% soy. How is that deception.

In business strategies change and costs change. Walmart changed in order to eliminate the competition. BK changed because the price of beef went up.

How can you call that dishonest? You can call Walmart unpatriotic. But a govt that allows Chinese companies to sell toxic substances as fake rice, fake meat, fake eggs , recycled oil etc to call what BK, McD and Walmart dishonest for this is ridiculous.

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Englteachted can eat all the mystery meat he wants. I will find my fix of 100% BEEF at Fatburger, Flamme, or Frank's Place.  MD and BK shot themselves in the foot as far as I am concerned.

Englteachted:

You clearly need to go back and learn English. Mystery means unknown. If McD tells you plainly that it is 50% soy and 50% beef, how is that unknown? Or is it a math problem? 

You infer that the meat at "foreign brands" is mystery , so you are safer eating at your local dive? Anyone with a functioning brain will find that hilarious.

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Its all high-calorie jink food anyway. Did you notice how fat Chinese kids have gotten since McDonalds and KFC came to China. I also noticed that the size of the burgers here about 75% the size they are back home. I try to avoid this fast food as much as possible, and now you have given me another good reason to do so.

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On top of this they keep making the burgers smaller and smaller and keep raising the price. I always leave MD feeling I was cheated.  But there are not many late night alternatives - or are there?

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Still have a gripe against foreign companies. Why doesn't China just learn from them instead of stealing from them?

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I don't eat much Bk and Mc D's for obvious reasons, but it's so nice to have them available at night time Smile No place serving food in China stays open past nine!

And how many Chinese people are eating 100% beef? Look at how popular those weird Chinese sausages are here, or those strange balls that they put in soup and hot pots. That is not 100% beef or fish. And people still love it, because this is a part of their diets.

It's a bit ridiculous to expect to get 100% beef in a fast food restaurant these days and get it for a fast food price. I think Carl JR.'s may come close to offering that though. And they're so tasty.

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Great to see a Grumpy question bumped.

 

We miss you Grumpy! RIP

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