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Q: Who is leaving China this year and who is staying?

Foreigners in China are a transient lot as a rule, if for no other reason than the lack of assimilation into the culture.

 

Who is leaving this year?  Who is staying?  If you are leaving, why?  If you are staying, why?

7 years 43 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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"Lack of assimilation" get a god damned life. 

 

People leave China cause it sucks. They come for a few years, do their thing and all leave saying the SAME THING "I could never spend my life there." or "I would never raise my kids there."

 

Even if people WANTED to assimilate they will never be accepted, read Mark Kitto's exit article about that. 

 

Meanwhile, Chinese people can't seem to move abroad without setting up "Chinatowns" wherever they go cause assimiation is the LAST thing they wanna do. 

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I'll be staying for another 9 years.

 

I will leave before my daughter goes to high school, because I want her to get the Chinese work ethic but I don't want her to get the indoctrination and basically poor education that the high school system in China inculcates. Also to get into a UK University, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) if she goes to a UK high school. That and by then I'll be getting old and the health system in the UK is free.

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It is not possible to assimilate into the Chinese "culture," nor do I think is it desirable for most foreigners. Those who think it is possible or desirable are deluding themselves, or really do not understand the vast difference between western culture and Chinese existence.

 

China is just a place for foreigners to visit. It certainly could never be an alternate "lifestyle," not even for those who are running from something in their own countries. Eventually, everyone has to leave. That is the way China's laws and immigration system are set up. "We will take your money, knowledge and technology, claim it as our own, and give you little in return, but we don't want you to stay."

 

Most foreigners, realising they are not welcome, leave willingly, and usually disillusioned. Others have their own reasons for wanting to stay. It is a choice of when to leave, not whether to leave. It is also a choice whether you leave of your own free will, or wait until you are forcibly removed.

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Assimilation? I knew my theory that the Chinese were the Borg ancestors was correct.

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am staying for now....got too many things on my agenda that need to be finished

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2013: AMF.

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Just signed on for another year. Then I will sign another 6 months so I leave China in the summer  time. Can't do stuff all here in the winter. I need to save 1 million pesos so I can live in the Philippines for 4 years without working! Or Thailand. Can't decide which.

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Most of us go to China only planning to stay a few months or a year. Sometimes 2 years for some.

Very, very few of us want to stay long term. 

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I think you are just jealous that these "transient types", can come here and make more money than most professional Chinese men. We can get lots of ladies, get special attention, and then can screw off and go back to our even better jobs, homes, air, food, social structure, governments, lifestyles etc. back home.

And you and your family are stuck living in the shittiest environment in the world, and needing two or three in one household just to pay for the essentials. Many Chinese I meet are very aware of their shitty jobs, schooling and environment. But their character is good. But let's look at things honestly, and you're just envious.

 

 

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I'm leaving because I don't want to raise a family here. Why settle for an apartment when I could own a house? Why force my kids into the uniformly terrible Chinese public school system when the schools in my own country, provided you don't send them to school in the inner city, are good or even great. Why make them suffer under the florescent lights of some cram school on weekends when they could play baseball or soccer in a clean and well maintained public park in some kind of rec league. I can just lead a better life outside of China.

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I am staying at least another year, only been here 15 months, and you guys that have been here longer seem to have so much fun. I retired and moved here to enjoy my new family and refuse to lose "face" to my Canadian family, who advised me, that I was really going "nuts" in my old age. (56)

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I'm staying angel

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i'm stayin, i'm never leaving smiley

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Hopefully staying, so long as nothing happens that means I get kicked out.  Fingers crossed....

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I am moving back to China in 9 days.

The last 6 months have been hell. I miss all the wonderful things that China offers...the massive savings when living on a generous expat package...the baijiu...the bone spitting on the table...the constant loud hoarking noises...and all the people that see me as a potential con target instead of a fellow human...good times.

But really in all seriousness the past 6 months have been hell for me with my gf (being apart)...which is the ONLY reason I keep coming back and keep this job...ok the money helps!

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I am leaving. I lost myself more than I have achieved in scientific field. I lost my temper. I lost my healthy habit. I lost my communication with people, friends, foes...

After nearly three years when I look back, it is not a place like other places where I have been. Never felt home and will never feel home...I would rather enjoy life in Antarctica with penguins than to be a penguin in Equator. That is why I am leaving....

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"nevermind, I am a registered Democrat in the City of New York, Borough of Manhattan.  When at home, I vote all the time -- straight Democrat -- Republicans are just too red-neck and like many around here.  I have not voted since I have been in China but I maintain my New York residency, so I vote there when I am at home.  1 Beekman Place, New York, New York, 10022-8057. I only voted Republican once and that was for Ronald Reagan.  Also just renewed my US Passport at the US Consulate in Shenyang."

 

LIES! Unless the US government is allowing Chinese citizens to vote now. But why did Echina cities allow this liar to keep this crap up?

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